Just another redshirting vent

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not familiar with "Junior First". Are you sure he won't be going into 2nd grade next year? He'll definately stand out as he'd be a full year older than the other kids.

No it's a transition year between K and 1st, I'm in the Baltimore area and a lot of the prep schools have this option

Well it appears to be just a single year of redshirting, not 2 years like OP claims. So perhaps this child has some special needs that required both redshirting for K and "pre-first." In any event she should MYOB.

https://www.gilman.edu/academics/pre-first

Not sure where I claimed the kid was redshirted 2 years. He started K at 5.75 years old which is the correct time for him to have started- if he was born in late fall, he was 5 when he started K and was on the older end of kids in the class. Now, at the end of K, instead of going on to first grade he is going on to the transition class. He will do first grade the year after that. So he is being "held back" one year. The fact that makes him super old compared to other kids is that he was already on the older end starting K, it's not like he was an august birthday.

Im not pro redshirting but I am starting to think this is not a good example. I think it’s ok if a kid has special needs. This transistion class sounds like he needs extra help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford private school, but you can afford to do whatever you have been doing for the last five years though, right? Or if your kid had been born in October instead of August you would have been totally screwed?

What does this mean? Correct, I can't afford 30k a year in tuition to a private school but I can afford free public pre-K and my mom to watch my kid after that. Not sure why you're confused.

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Anonymous wrote:I was one of the youngest in my class. I had no issues. My classmates were just that. The only time age came up was when people were getting their drivers licenses many many many years later. It's a big deal because you make it a big deal.

Yes, driving, and also dating is where it can be a big deal. I have two friends who have sons that were redshirted. One boy was 15 in the 8th grade and the other turned 16 during 8th grade. If you don't think that causes issues related to crushes, you're crazy. Especially with the one who turned 16. He's an 18 year old junior right now about to turn 19. Next year he'll be 20 during his senior year. Very few parents are fine with their daughters dating someone that much older. It's one of the things my friend complains to me the most about because she always wanted my DD to set him with up a friend of hers.

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Sigh. No one cares.
There are advantages and disadvantages to both situations.

I know, that's why I titled it "another redshirting vent" so you could be free to scroll past it if you were tired of these posts. I unfortunately fail to see ANY advantages for my late summer bday boy though, to be honest.

Not with that attitude, he won't.

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Anonymous wrote:I was one of the youngest in my class. I had no issues. My classmates were just that. The only time age came up was when people were getting their drivers licenses many many many years later. It's a big deal because you make it a big deal.

Yes, driving, and also dating is where it can be a big deal. I have two friends who have sons that were redshirted. One boy was 15 in the 8th grade and the other turned 16 during 8th grade. If you don't think that causes issues related to crushes, you're crazy. Especially with the one who turned 16. He's an 18 year old junior right now about to turn 19. Next year he'll be 20 during his senior year. Very few parents are fine with their daughters dating someone that much older. It's one of the things my friend complains to me the most about because she always wanted my DD to set him with up a friend of hers.

Your friend tries to get your DD to set her son up with DD's friends? You don't find that creepy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not familiar with "Junior First". Are you sure he won't be going into 2nd grade next year? He'll definately stand out as he'd be a full year older than the other kids.

No it's a transition year between K and 1st, I'm in the Baltimore area and a lot of the prep schools have this option

Well it appears to be just a single year of redshirting, not 2 years like OP claims. So perhaps this child has some special needs that required both redshirting for K and "pre-first." In any event she should MYOB.

https://www.gilman.edu/academics/pre-first

Not sure where I claimed the kid was redshirted 2 years. He started K at 5.75 years old which is the correct time for him to have started- if he was born in late fall, he was 5 when he started K and was on the older end of kids in the class. Now, at the end of K, instead of going on to first grade he is going on to the transition class. He will do first grade the year after that. So he is being "held back" one year. The fact that makes him super old compared to other kids is that he was already on the older end starting K, it's not like he was an august birthday.

Im not pro redshirting but I am starting to think this is not a good example. I think it’s ok if a kid has special needs. This transistion class sounds like he needs extra help.

I have met him a few times at social gatherings- he does not have any (obvious) special needs, he seems like a normal kid and last I saw him he was reading an early reader book by himself actually so I know he can read. I agree that I'd never be annoyed at a special needs kid being held back a year. It truly seems like this is for competitive advantage and it's why it bothers me, just knowing that my son will already be at a disadvantage and then seeing richer people who have the money to do something like spend an extra 25-30k on a transition year to make their kid just that much older than mine when it comes to things like high school admissions (if we choose private for high school) or college admissions, or just in general for my kid's self esteem that he will be so much smaller and less mature than these kids in the same grade as him! (if this is what public will be like)

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my child has a July birthday and I cannot afford private so he will be starting K right after he turns 5

It's true that for the most part, red shirting is only for those that have financial resources. Same for starting kids early, which requires even more money because you have to pay for two years of it whereas red shirting only requires one.

When it comes down to money, face it, if that family has more than yours does, red shirting is just the tip of the benefits that kid will get that your kid might not. Every parent has to do the best that they can for their child with the resources they have. You can't get hung up what others are giving to their kids that you can't because you lack the resources. If you want your kid to have more, then you have to figure out how to get more money.

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Anonymous wrote:Friendly acquaintance posted a "back to school" pic of her son complete with his age (6.75 years) and grade (Junior First/ Prep First/ whatever your private school calls it). This little boy has a late fall birthday!!! He is going to be almost 8 years old when he starts first grade. Meanwhile, my child has a July birthday and I cannot afford private so he will be starting K right after he turns 5 and starting first right after he turns 6. He and this child are going to be almost 2 full years apart while in the same grade. I KNOW, it doesn't affect me in the slightest especially since he isn't even at my child's school. But it makes me so angry! My child is a little socially immature and I am worried he is not only going to be chronologically the youngest when he starts real school but he is going to be socially young for his age too, making it so much harder for him if his classroom is full of kids who are 7 when he is only 5. Ugh. Vent over. Side note- does anyone know if redshirting is as prevalent in public schools?

There is redshirting and then there is CRAZY REDSHIRTING. My DD turned 8 last week and is starting third. How weird would be it if she was just starting first.

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Help me figure out how a 20 year old is in hs. You'd have to be the oldest kid AND redshirted right?

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Seems to be very extreme cases in these threads.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this is Baltimore?

Poor kid, nearly 7 and still not in 1st grade yet.

Hahahahahahaha.

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Anonymous wrote:I was one of the youngest in my class. I had no issues. My classmates were just that. The only time age came up was when people were getting their drivers licenses many many many years later. It's a big deal because you make it a big deal.

Yes, driving, and also dating is where it can be a big deal. I have two friends who have sons that were redshirted. One boy was 15 in the 8th grade and the other turned 16 during 8th grade. If you don't think that causes issues related to crushes, you're crazy. Especially with the one who turned 16. He's an 18 year old junior right now about to turn 19. Next year he'll be 20 during his senior year. Very few parents are fine with their daughters dating someone that much older. It's one of the things my friend complains to me the most about because she always wanted my DD to set him with up a friend of hers.

Lol I actually had typed a response on this topic but deleted because I thought no one would care But my bday is end of Sept and my town had an Oct cut off and I went on time. I really thought my parents sent me on time and never looked back and didn’t hem and haw about it, like I did, with my own young for the grade son (who I sent on time). That is for the most part true except I recently asked my mom about it and she said she never worried about it except when she said she had some worry at one point about all these boys being so much bigger than me in middle school. I always liked older boys, so this was not a concern for me when I was a sophomore, I turned 15 that fall. My boyfriend was a junior, who just missed the cut off so he was 17 that Oct. (and had his license - in NJ you have to be 17 to get your license). He just drove me around for the rest of HS! Totally fine with me, lol. Not sure about my parents’ feelings.

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Yeah being almost 8 starting 1st is a little weird. My kid is almost 7 starting 2nd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was one of the youngest in my class. I had no issues. My classmates were just that. The only time age came up was when people were getting their drivers licenses many many many years later. It's a big deal because you make it a big deal.

Yes, driving, and also dating is where it can be a big deal. I have two friends who have sons that were redshirted. One boy was 15 in the 8th grade and the other turned 16 during 8th grade. If you don't think that causes issues related to crushes, you're crazy. Especially with the one who turned 16. He's an 18 year old junior right now about to turn 19. Next year he'll be 20 during his senior year. Very few parents are fine with their daughters dating someone that much older. It's one of the things my friend complains to me the most about because she always wanted my DD to set him with up a friend of hers.

Lol I actually had typed a response on this topic but deleted because I thought no one would care But my bday is end of Sept and my town had an Oct cut off and I went on time. I really thought my parents sent me on time and never looked back and didn’t hem and haw about it, like I did, with my own young for the grade son (who I sent on time). That is for the most part true except I recently asked my mom about it and she said she never worried about it except when she said she had some worry at one point about all these boys being so much bigger than me in middle school. I always liked older boys, so this was not a concern for me when I was a sophomore, I turned 15 that fall. My boyfriend was a junior, who just missed the cut off so he was 17 that Oct. (and had his license - in NJ you have to be 17 to get your license). He just drove me around for the rest of HS! Totally fine with me, lol. Not sure about my parents’ feelings.

Lol!

Reminds me of my friend from hs. She had an October birthday and she was the youngest by a margin. Every year her bday came up and we would say "oh yeah! You have a really late birthday!" but nothing past that. She dated in our grade though.

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Get a hobby.