Would you let your DC attend an inferior university because they wanted rah-rah sports culture?

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Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

They don't have football programs... they play football, i get it, but lets be real.

Stanford Cardinal School History
Seasons: 98 (1918 to 2018)
Record (W-L-T): 570-438-34
Conferences: Pac-12, Pac-10, Pac-8, AAWU, PCC
Conf. Championships: 14
Bowl Record: 28 Bowls, 14-13-1, .537 W-L% (Major Bowls)
Ranked in AP Poll: 22 Times (Preseason), 20 Times (Final), 295 Weeks (Total)

Feel stupid?

I skimmed the list and missed Stanford so no I don't feel stupid.

Which is funny because that is where my daughter goes.

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Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Uh, Stanford.

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Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Uh, Stanford.

yes, discussed above.

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Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Uh, Stanford.

OP isn't talking about Stanford or any other school in the top 15 or 20, obviously.

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Anonymous wrote:Or, assuming parents are paying (i.e. not an Alabama full ride on merit), would you and your husband say cheering on the football or basketball team is an absurd and immature reason to go to a certain university?

I'd agree that school spirit is a secondary criteria for selecting a college.....far below academics. There are many schools that provide both.

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Anonymous wrote:Not at all. You can get a good education at (nearly) any college if you put your mind to it. A HUGE part of picking a school is student life and the campus culture- for example, would you ridicule a girl who wanted to attend Sarah Lawrence because of the campus vibe? Probably not.

In addition, a strong sports culture is a good way for alums to network post graduation -- especially if you plan to move outside of the school's location.

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Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

Good schools but not good football teams. Actually, Stanford has had a few good teams over the years, but they're inconsistent.

Michigan
Northwestern
UCLA
Washington
TCU

Would you like more?

Hmm, which of these doesn’t really belong...

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New poster, DC is rising senior and an athlete and is making this decision ... So far this summer has been in talks with 2 Ivies and Wisconsin. If it were UCLA or Michigan I wld be more enthusiastic about choosing big flagship prgm over an Ivy but ultimately ill let DC choose. Once college is over it is unlikely that DC's athletic career will continue so I think an Ivy degree will mean more in the long run. That said the Wisc. team is WAY better nationally than the Ivies and sports has been such an important aspect of life so far that its hard to not follow that path. ...

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Anonymous wrote:New poster, DC is rising senior and an athlete and is making this decision ... So far this summer has been in talks with 2 Ivies and Wisconsin. If it were UCLA or Michigan I wld be more enthusiastic about choosing big flagship prgm over an Ivy but ultimately ill let DC choose. Once college is over it is unlikely that DC's athletic career will continue so I think an Ivy degree will mean more in the long run. That said the Wisc. team is WAY better nationally than the Ivies and sports has been such an important aspect of life so far that its hard to not follow that path. ...

Wisc. has not told you during recruiting about the alumni network?

My son is an athlete and every school talked about the alumni network.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster, DC is rising senior and an athlete and is making this decision ... So far this summer has been in talks with 2 Ivies and Wisconsin. If it were UCLA or Michigan I wld be more enthusiastic about choosing big flagship prgm over an Ivy but ultimately ill let DC choose. Once college is over it is unlikely that DC's athletic career will continue so I think an Ivy degree will mean more in the long run. That said the Wisc. team is WAY better nationally than the Ivies and sports has been such an important aspect of life so far that its hard to not follow that path. ...

Wisc. has not told you during recruiting about the alumni network?

My son is an athlete and every school talked about the alumni network.

Sure they have. I just take a lot of that with a grain of salt. I think the national reputation of a university matters more. I threw out Michigan and UCLA bc they have comparable program's for DC sport but I think much better academic reputations nationally than Wisc.

I think it matters that DC grew up on the east coast and has no ties to the midwest where I think their network is stronger; the only place i could even imagine DC living where Wisc. has a network is Chicago but again no ties. I grew up near Philadelphia; Penn State's network and cultural following is a big thing around there and in Pittsburgh but it wanes quickly out of state.

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Anonymous wrote:The only good schools with football programs are Southern Cal and Notre Dame. (Occasionally Cal Berkeley will slip in there).

Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Cornell, etc- these aren't good schools?

Good schools but not good football teams. Actually, Stanford has had a few good teams over the years, but they're inconsistent.

Michigan
Northwestern
UCLA
Washington
TCU

Would you like more?

Hmm, which of these doesn’t really belong...

I can think of 2 or 3

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Sure they have. I just take a lot of that with a grain of salt. I think the national reputation of a university matters more. I threw out Michigan and UCLA bc they have comparable program's for DC sport but I think much better academic reputations nationally than Wisc.

I think it matters that DC grew up on the east coast and has no ties to the midwest where I think their network is stronger; the only place i could even imagine DC living where Wisc. has a network is Chicago but again no ties. I grew up near Philadelphia; Penn State's network and cultural following is a big thing around there and in Pittsburgh but it wanes quickly out of state.

You'd let your DC turn down a top 15 private university for Michigan or UCLA sports culture?

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Anonymous wrote:Depends (in part) on the schools in question. Skipping Harvard to attend Mizzou? I'd shudder a little bit, granted. Skipping Brown to attend Virginia Tech or UCLA? Totally different story.

You'd reluctantly skip Harvard in favor of Mizzou (#57 in the US News rankings for public schools), but draw the line at passing on Brown for UCLA (#2 in US News)? This makes absolutely no sense at all. Not that the US News Rankings are the end-all, of course, but there's a pretty wide gulf between UCLA and Mizzou .

Or did I misunderstand your response?

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Sure they have. I just take a lot of that with a grain of salt. I think the national reputation of a university matters more. I threw out Michigan and UCLA bc they have comparable program's for DC sport but I think much better academic reputations nationally than Wisc.

I think it matters that DC grew up on the east coast and has no ties to the midwest where I think their network is stronger; the only place i could even imagine DC living where Wisc. has a network is Chicago but again no ties. I grew up near Philadelphia; Penn State's network and cultural following is a big thing around there and in Pittsburgh but it wanes quickly out of state.

You'd let your DC turn down a top 15 private university for Michigan or UCLA sports culture?

I think OPs DC is a recruited athlete so is looking at both the quality of the team and the amount of school spirit. Regardless, you'd be a fool to pass on an Ivy education for 4 years at rah-rah state.....unless of course it was UVA. Haha....just kidding, you'd still be a fool.

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Well it all depends on the program. Mizzou has an absolutely incredible journalism program- if my kid were interested in journalism, it would totally make sense to go there