Proposal that could allow truant seniors to graduate

[Anonymous]

I’m not surprised. I have been an educator for over 10 years and this is my second year in dc public schools. The expectations at my school for the teachers are so low so I’m not sure how we can have high expectations for the students.

[Anonymous]

If DCPS is truly to be inclusive, then adjustments will have to be made.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would you rather have 3500+ poor mostly black and Latino not get their diploma and be released on the streets? Most wouldn’t come back (they didn’t really go in the first place).

Take you pick a small city worth of kids who will fail before they start or a small city worth of kids who at least have the paperwork to go get entry level minimum wage jobs that might lead to a sustainable existence not in jail or in extreme poverty.

Those are the only two options, pick

If they didn't bother to show up for class why do you think they will show up for a minimum wage job?

The life lesson learned here is that you don’t have to show up, that you can cut corners and chisel your way, but you will still get free stuff.

They already have that lesson if they are going to a ward 8 high school. The diploma gives a few a chance to grow up eventually if self aware ever clicks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised. I have been an educator for over 10 years and this is my second year in dc public schools. The expectations at my school for the teachers are so low so I’m not sure how we can have high expectations for the students.

This. We have been consistently appalled by the low standard that DCPS teachers set for themselves for the 10 years that our kids have been in the system. You see this in EVERY area -- the robocalls saying that kids missed class when they haven't (because teachers haven't bothered to take attendance correctly), the teachers who don't bother to post work to the online grading system until after the end of the advisory (so that there is no possible way that kids could know how they are doing in class and course correct), the teacher who in elementary school told us that he "didn't have time" to grade submitted work, the teachers who are out once a week for an entire year (yes, I know people have health issues and challenges, but you can't tell me that more than one of my kid's teachers are having issues that cause weekly absences EVERY DAMN YEAR).

The attendance scandal is part and parcel of this issue -- administration and teachers couldn't be bothered to enforce existing policies for years, so suddenly when the media gets the story they decide to enforce a policy they previously haven't and screw a bunch of seniors. And yes, people can say that kids should know that absences count, but those people have never sat through general ed classes at DCPS high schools. If expectations are set over a period of years by the adults, than it's reasonable to expect kids to conform to those expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The soft bigotry of low expectations.

The more I think about this, the more I realize that I'm sick of the soft bigotry of low expectations on Maryland and Virginia drivers driving in the district. We need to start strictly enforcing the existing DC law requiring suspension of driver's licenses for minor moving or parking violations unpaid for 30 days. We all know speeding and parking illegally are dangerous and against the law. We should expect, even demand serious consequences for lawbreakers. All the people clamoring to teach these kids a lesson should join me in demanding strict enforcement of this law, right? If people lose their jobs as a result, well... they should have known better. Right?

We must set expectations that will encourage those people to be their best selves as drivers. We owe it to those poor unfortunates. We need red light cameras at every intersection, speed limit cameras on every road, and driver's license suspension for all violations after 30 days. How can we let these drivers down by letting them keep driving without even basic competency to drive within the law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised. I have been an educator for over 10 years and this is my second year in dc public schools. The expectations at my school for the teachers are so low so I’m not sure how we can have high expectations for the students.

This. We have been consistently appalled by the low standard that DCPS teachers set for themselves for the 10 years that our kids have been in the system. You see this in EVERY area -- the robocalls saying that kids missed class when they haven't (because teachers haven't bothered to take attendance correctly), the teachers who don't bother to post work to the online grading system until after the end of the advisory (so that there is no possible way that kids could know how they are doing in class and course correct), the teacher who in elementary school told us that he "didn't have time" to grade submitted work, the teachers who are out once a week for an entire year (yes, I know people have health issues and challenges, but you can't tell me that more than one of my kid's teachers are having issues that cause weekly absences EVERY DAMN YEAR).

The attendance scandal is part and parcel of this issue -- administration and teachers couldn't be bothered to enforce existing policies for years, so suddenly when the media gets the story they decide to enforce a policy they previously haven't and screw a bunch of seniors. And yes, people can say that kids should know that absences count, but those people have never sat through general ed classes at DCPS high schools. If expectations are set over a period of years by the adults, than it's reasonable to expect kids to conform to those expectations.

I’m glad you agree. The low expectations at my school are crazy. My principal in Maryland would never stand for this stuff and to think I get paid more here for lower expectations. We have teachers late EVERYDAY. The same ones! One teacher gets to school between 8:30-9 everyday. I feel terrible for her para. We have teachers that are always on their phone or sitting in front of the computer. It’s crazy to me.

[Anonymous]

No wonder Wilson was shut out of Ivy admissions this year. Colleges are waking up to the worthlessness of a DCPS educatuon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The soft bigotry of low expectations.

The more I think about this, the more I realize that I'm sick of the soft bigotry of low expectations on Maryland and Virginia drivers driving in the district. We need to start strictly enforcing the existing DC law requiring suspension of driver's licenses for minor moving or parking violations unpaid for 30 days. We all know speeding and parking illegally are dangerous and against the law. We should expect, even demand serious consequences for lawbreakers. All the people clamoring to teach these kids a lesson should join me in demanding strict enforcement of this law, right? If people lose their jobs as a result, well... they should have known better. Right?

We must set expectations that will encourage those people to be their best selves as drivers. We owe it to those poor unfortunates. We need red light cameras at every intersection, speed limit cameras on every road, and driver's license suspension for all violations after 30 days. How can we let these drivers down by letting them keep driving without even basic competency to drive within the law?

Are you ok?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The soft bigotry of low expectations.

The more I think about this, the more I realize that I'm sick of the soft bigotry of low expectations on Maryland and Virginia drivers driving in the district. We need to start strictly enforcing the existing DC law requiring suspension of driver's licenses for minor moving or parking violations unpaid for 30 days. We all know speeding and parking illegally are dangerous and against the law. We should expect, even demand serious consequences for lawbreakers. All the people clamoring to teach these kids a lesson should join me in demanding strict enforcement of this law, right? If people lose their jobs as a result, well... they should have known better. Right?

We must set expectations that will encourage those people to be their best selves as drivers. We owe it to those poor unfortunates. We need red light cameras at every intersection, speed limit cameras on every road, and driver's license suspension for all violations after 30 days. How can we let these drivers down by letting them keep driving without even basic competency to drive within the law?

Are you ok?

Yeah, thanks for asking. I'm just thinking that if we're going to suddenly start enforcing previously unenforced truancy rules because the people who violated those rules "should have known better", we need to really get behind the same policy in all areas. I'm SURE that all the PPs who are advocating disastrously negative consequences for children because the adults screwed up will be TOTALLY supportive of enforcing previously unenforced rules related to driving, tax cheating, missing school for reason other than illness, and many other white, UMC behaviors, right? I mean, it's not like their suggestions are out of touch, racist and paternalistic, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The soft bigotry of low expectations.

The more I think about this, the more I realize that I'm sick of the soft bigotry of low expectations on Maryland and Virginia drivers driving in the district. We need to start strictly enforcing the existing DC law requiring suspension of driver's licenses for minor moving or parking violations unpaid for 30 days. We all know speeding and parking illegally are dangerous and against the law. We should expect, even demand serious consequences for lawbreakers. All the people clamoring to teach these kids a lesson should join me in demanding strict enforcement of this law, right? If people lose their jobs as a result, well... they should have known better. Right?

We must set expectations that will encourage those people to be their best selves as drivers. We owe it to those poor unfortunates. We need red light cameras at every intersection, speed limit cameras on every road, and driver's license suspension for all violations after 30 days. How can we let these drivers down by letting them keep driving without even basic competency to drive within the law?

Are you ok?

Yeah, thanks for asking. I'm just thinking that if we're going to suddenly start enforcing previously unenforced truancy rules because the people who violated those rules "should have known better", we need to really get behind the same policy in all areas. I'm SURE that all the PPs who are advocating disastrously negative consequences for children because the adults screwed up will be TOTALLY supportive of enforcing previously unenforced rules related to driving, tax cheating, missing school for reason other than illness, and many other white, UMC behaviors, right? I mean, it's not like their suggestions are out of touch, racist and paternalistic, right?

These things generally are, or at least should be, enforced. I guess that surprises you.

[Anonymous]

“Graduation for all.” Why not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The soft bigotry of low expectations.

The more I think about this, the more I realize that I'm sick of the soft bigotry of low expectations on Maryland and Virginia drivers driving in the district. We need to start strictly enforcing the existing DC law requiring suspension of driver's licenses for minor moving or parking violations unpaid for 30 days. We all know speeding and parking illegally are dangerous and against the law. We should expect, even demand serious consequences for lawbreakers. All the people clamoring to teach these kids a lesson should join me in demanding strict enforcement of this law, right? If people lose their jobs as a result, well... they should have known better. Right?

We must set expectations that will encourage those people to be their best selves as drivers. We owe it to those poor unfortunates. We need red light cameras at every intersection, speed limit cameras on every road, and driver's license suspension for all violations after 30 days. How can we let these drivers down by letting them keep driving without even basic competency to drive within the law?

Are you ok?

Yeah, thanks for asking. I'm just thinking that if we're going to suddenly start enforcing previously unenforced truancy rules because the people who violated those rules "should have known better", we need to really get behind the same policy in all areas. I'm SURE that all the PPs who are advocating disastrously negative consequences for children because the adults screwed up will be TOTALLY supportive of enforcing previously unenforced rules related to driving, tax cheating, missing school for reason other than illness, and many other white, UMC behaviors, right? I mean, it's not like their suggestions are out of touch, racist and paternalistic, right?

These things generally are, or at least should be, enforced. I guess that surprises you.

I don't know about you, but I can generally drive about 10 MPH over the limit without getting a ticket. I could also get away with claiming lots of personal expense as business expenses for the business I own (as my accountant constantly reminds me). And you may have noticed the thread on this forum in which UMC parents are frustrated that they can't pull their kids out of school for extended travel. So yeah, it would really surprise me to see those laws strictly enforced with the enthusiastic support of all of the "get tough" posters on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Graduation for all.” Why not?

Again 2 choices, unleash thousands of poor uneducated DC kids on the the streets with nothing or with a piece of paper that will at least give them a shot. That’s it pick one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The soft bigotry of low expectations.

The more I think about this, the more I realize that I'm sick of the soft bigotry of low expectations on Maryland and Virginia drivers driving in the district. We need to start strictly enforcing the existing DC law requiring suspension of driver's licenses for minor moving or parking violations unpaid for 30 days. We all know speeding and parking illegally are dangerous and against the law. We should expect, even demand serious consequences for lawbreakers. All the people clamoring to teach these kids a lesson should join me in demanding strict enforcement of this law, right? If people lose their jobs as a result, well... they should have known better. Right?

We must set expectations that will encourage those people to be their best selves as drivers. We owe it to those poor unfortunates. We need red light cameras at every intersection, speed limit cameras on every road, and driver's license suspension for all violations after 30 days. How can we let these drivers down by letting them keep driving without even basic competency to drive within the law?

Are you ok?

Yeah, thanks for asking. I'm just thinking that if we're going to suddenly start enforcing previously unenforced truancy rules because the people who violated those rules "should have known better", we need to really get behind the same policy in all areas. I'm SURE that all the PPs who are advocating disastrously negative consequences for children because the adults screwed up will be TOTALLY supportive of enforcing previously unenforced rules related to driving, tax cheating, missing school for reason other than illness, and many other white, UMC behaviors, right? I mean, it's not like their suggestions are out of touch, racist and paternalistic, right?

These things generally are, or at least should be, enforced. I guess that surprises you.

I don't know about you, but I can generally drive about 10 MPH over the limit without getting a ticket. I could also get away with claiming lots of personal expense as business expenses for the business I own (as my accountant constantly reminds me). And you may have noticed the thread on this forum in which UMC parents are frustrated that they can't pull their kids out of school for extended travel. So yeah, it would really surprise me to see those laws strictly enforced with the enthusiastic support of all of the "get tough" posters on this thread.

Do you drive a Beemer, too?

What a thing to brag about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The soft bigotry of low expectations.

The more I think about this, the more I realize that I'm sick of the soft bigotry of low expectations on Maryland and Virginia drivers driving in the district. We need to start strictly enforcing the existing DC law requiring suspension of driver's licenses for minor moving or parking violations unpaid for 30 days. We all know speeding and parking illegally are dangerous and against the law. We should expect, even demand serious consequences for lawbreakers. All the people clamoring to teach these kids a lesson should join me in demanding strict enforcement of this law, right? If people lose their jobs as a result, well... they should have known better. Right?

We must set expectations that will encourage those people to be their best selves as drivers. We owe it to those poor unfortunates. We need red light cameras at every intersection, speed limit cameras on every road, and driver's license suspension for all violations after 30 days. How can we let these drivers down by letting them keep driving without even basic competency to drive within the law?

Are you ok?

Yeah, thanks for asking. I'm just thinking that if we're going to suddenly start enforcing previously unenforced truancy rules because the people who violated those rules "should have known better", we need to really get behind the same policy in all areas. I'm SURE that all the PPs who are advocating disastrously negative consequences for children because the adults screwed up will be TOTALLY supportive of enforcing previously unenforced rules related to driving, tax cheating, missing school for reason other than illness, and many other white, UMC behaviors, right? I mean, it's not like their suggestions are out of touch, racist and paternalistic, right?

Actually a good point. I teach in a public school outside of DC. Our student body is mostly UMC and white. The district rules on absenteeism, cheating, and discipline are not followed for our students.