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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfgate.com/news/amp/San-Francisco-dirty-needles-feces-foreign-slums-12627779.php
"Dirtier than foreign slums" |
This bold part highlights an attitude that is a big part of California's growing problems. |
For the pp who thinks that used needles is not dangerous, you should read the link posted above. Please think twice before letting your daughter walk on her own on those streets. ““If you do get stuck with these disposed needles you can get HIV, Hepatitis C, Hepatitis B, and a variety of other viral diseases,” said Dr. Lee Riley, an infectious disease expert at University of California, Berkeley. He warned that once fecal matter dries, it can become airborne, releasing potentially dangerous viruses, such as the rotavirus. “If you happen to inhale that, it can also go into your intestine,” he said. The results can prove fatal, especially in children.” |
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Not sure if we can trust MSM but here's a link to an NBC report on feces, needles etc in SF streets: https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Diseased-Streets-472430013.html |
Quit it with the pearl clutching and talk of the "MSM." We can all see through it, and it's obvious you haven't been or wouldn't go to San Francisco because it doesn't align with your worldview. I'm the PP who said to stick to Pacific Heights or the Marina. To the PP who stuck up for SoMA and Civic Center, I agree that there are some interesting cultural activities in those parts of town, but some of the sights/smells can be jarring and unsavory to an outsider who has never seen city grit or a real homeless problem. I have seen it first hand, as I used to do medical outreach all over SF and spent lots of time in those areas, as well as Hunter's Point and Bayview. San Francisco has its problems, but it's a lot cleaner than New York. I would know - I've lived in both. Hell, it's cleaner than some ratty parts of DC, because DC residents seem to have no qualms about letting their precious little canine "children" poop everywhere and/or dropping their used food wrappers on the sidewalk. |
Why? What would me walking with her prevent? Do you think she’s touching dirty needles? Do you think when there’s poop on the sidewalk she leans down with her mouth open inhaling it? Come on. |
| My last trip to San Francisco was brief, thank goodness. I didn't feel unsafe but felt quite disgusted. They need to deal with the people who defecate in public, it's abhorrent. Everything smelled terrible and it really was much dirtier than NYC or most other major cities. It has lost its charm, but as soon as you head to Marin or other areas it is truly lovely. |
Well, I was baiting you with the MSM reference. I only go for work. I truly do like Marin and points north. I wouldn't take my family to SF proper. But by all means, go and spend your money there -- folks have to eat (and then we know what happens afterwards). |
No, but I have a 12-year old daughter and I would not be comfortable with her walking on her own in those kind of areas, amongst homeless people doing drugs. |
Sorry San Francisco poster but you are insane. And of course many of us posting have been to San Francisco or lived in northern California. The government policies over the past decade and beliefs of people like you have turned some amazing California into disgusting cess pools and 3rd world health hazards. It is not compassionate to create situations where junkies shoot up in broad daylight and live in their own filth on public streets |
Are you aware that other states round up busloads of their homeless and give them a one-way ticket to Northern California? We have sued cities for doing that to us. I am not insane. If I were, I'd be homeless. I absolutely support more homeless shelters, more free drug rehabs, etc. I support the needle exchange programs. I don't know how you think I personally am creating a situation where a junkie shoots up, and hope you will explain that to me. Nobody votes for tent cities. But I'll point out to you that when Recology (trash) comes by to tear down tent cities in SF, the homeless people living in those encampments just walk to another neighborhood and set up there. We're just shuffling homeless people from place to place. If we knew what the solution was for people too mentally ill to work enough to earn enough to have a roof over their heads, we'd do it. We just can't figure that out.
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Yep, but not just to NorCal, but all over CA, and includes those with mental illness and sex offenders. https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Nevada-Settles-Homeless-Dumping-Lawsuit-369736411.html
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Why? I don't disagree with you necessarily, but I'm curious as to what you are afraid may specifically happen. |
| I was there 3 years ago. We mostly stuck to touristy areas as I was with my in laws who'd never been there before. Maybe it's changed since then, but I didn't find it to be any dirtier than NY. The number of homeless people was extremely high, but I feel like it was always really high - I remember going there with my college boyfriend in 2001 and repeatedly being offered drugs and harassed for our leftovers in Golden Gate Park. |
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Oh great, a friend and I are going next week for 5 days (just two women.) I really hope this is exagerrated.
I do know two older (early 60s) family members who just went in April and their only comment was that there were a lot of homeless people.... which SF is well known for. These are Fox News watching 60 year olds, so I hope that's an accurate representation of what they saw. They stayed in Union Square, which is also where we are staying. |