I just used Roundup for the first time and I'm not proud

[Anonymous]

Having a nice lawn doesn't mean you have to dump tons of chemicals on your lawn. I have one of the nicer/nicest lawn on the street and I don't dump a ton of chemicals on it. As the horticulturalist said, I spot spray weeds (rather than blanket spray). I know most don't know this but some herbicide's actually have very low toxicity. Tenacity is one of them.

Another thing you can do to help your lawn if you likely have tall fescue is let it grow TALL. Cut it at 4"+ in summer. The majority of people have their lawns scalped by some cheap "landscapers" and then wonder why they have weeds.

For the anti-chemical folks good luck if you get bentgrass or stiltgrass. I had some last year and it'll take over your yard if you don't get it under control (kind of like ivy will in wooded areas). Some things are invasive.

[Anonymous]

I used to buy a ton of round up every year and use frequently. This year I got smart. Large propane torch, $50.00. $13 to refill propane tank that last about 3-4 hours. Put propane tank in wagon and off I went. Therapeutic too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having a nice lawn doesn't mean you have to dump tons of chemicals on your lawn. I have one of the nicer/nicest lawn on the street and I don't dump a ton of chemicals on it. As the horticulturalist said, I spot spray weeds (rather than blanket spray). I know most don't know this but some herbicide's actually have very low toxicity. Tenacity is one of them.

Another thing you can do to help your lawn if you likely have tall fescue is let it grow TALL. Cut it at 4"+ in summer. The majority of people have their lawns scalped by some cheap "landscapers" and then wonder why they have weeds.

For the anti-chemical folks good luck if you get bentgrass or stiltgrass. I had some last year and it'll take over your yard if you don't get it under control (kind of like ivy will in wooded areas). Some things are invasive.

I don’t know what bentgrass or stiltgrass is and ignorance is bliss in this case!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Roundup is fine. But I hope you didn’t spray your yard with it because it kills everything. You should have used 2-4-D.

. By the way, I should maybe mention I am a Harvard educated farmer. Evaluating the evidence, I still use it occasionally. But 2-4-D is a much better broadleaf killer that will let the grass thrive and is inexpensive. If you have an issue with briars you will need something like ForeFront.

Harvard has a ag/farming program? Do you farm the fertile fields of Cambridge?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having a nice lawn doesn't mean you have to dump tons of chemicals on your lawn. I have one of the nicer/nicest lawn on the street and I don't dump a ton of chemicals on it. As the horticulturalist said, I spot spray weeds (rather than blanket spray). I know most don't know this but some herbicide's actually have very low toxicity. Tenacity is one of them.

Another thing you can do to help your lawn if you likely have tall fescue is let it grow TALL. Cut it at 4"+ in summer. The majority of people have their lawns scalped by some cheap "landscapers" and then wonder why they have weeds.

For the anti-chemical folks good luck if you get bentgrass or stiltgrass. I had some last year and it'll take over your yard if you don't get it under control (kind of like ivy will in wooded areas). Some things are invasive.

This sounds like our philosophy. We are constantly asking the landscapers to cut higher and this is a good reminder to ask them again for this season. We have an invasion of chickweed this year and have hand pulled a lot of it, but can't get it all so have resorted to some chemicals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why would you feel guilt? You know, if you’re comfortable with those chemicals on your lawn, the residue entering your house, on your clothes, in your body. Do you know what’s in that stuff? Do you know how it affects you? If it can kill a plant, why wouldn’t it affect you? Who knows- that’s why I avoid them.

I am a horticulturist (Bachelors degree in hort) so yes I am keenly aware, probably more than most and not all you read in the tree hugging news media is all its cracked up to be.

I'd venture to say I get worst stuff in my body by eating some of the foods we are served. or just by walking down the street when a bus drives by.

Agreed.

I'm allergic to dandelions, they have to go quickly and easily. Picking thistles out of my dog's foot is not fun. Those go too.

[Anonymous]

The hysteria over Roundup is hilarious. I guess the people who think that getting a drop on them means their lives are over have never eaten any corn or soybean products that weren't organic? Because if you have, I've got two words for you that you might want to look up: "Roundup Ready."

Personally I nuked my entire yard last fall with two applications of Roundup mixed at double the recommended concentration to get rid of a Bermudagrass infestation and I have no guilt or regrets whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Personally I nuked my entire yard last fall with two applications of Roundup mixed at double the recommended concentration to get rid of a Bermudagrass infestation and I have no guilt or regrets whatsoever.

This is the problem... you went double the rate. the bermuda grass isn't any deader at 8 ounces per gallon as opposed to 4 ounces that would have done the job.

the plant can only take in so much chemical and going with the higher rate just wasted chemical. And yes I know the bermuda is especially aggressive and would likely have needed multiple apps whether you went heavy or light.. back in the day, chemical guy would measure chemicals by counting the number of glugs from the jug, I know I was there.. Those days are over, especially as the formulations get better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Personally I nuked my entire yard last fall with two applications of Roundup mixed at double the recommended concentration to get rid of a Bermudagrass infestation and I have no guilt or regrets whatsoever.

This is the problem... you went double the rate. the bermuda grass isn't any deader at 8 ounces per gallon as opposed to 4 ounces that would have done the job.

the plant can only take in so much chemical and going with the higher rate just wasted chemical. And yes I know the bermuda is especially aggressive and would likely have needed multiple apps whether you went heavy or light.. back in the day, chemical guy would measure chemicals by counting the number of glugs from the jug, I know I was there.. Those days are over, especially as the formulations get better.

Bottles of the most concentrated Roundup, 50% glyphosate, recommend 2.5 ounces/gallon as the normal concentration. Do the math and you find that this yields a 1% glyphosate mixture. You would think it's equivalent to ready-to-use consumer Roundup. But no, RTU Roundup is 2% glyphosate (plus another chemical or two). So the PP knows what he or she is doing.

[Anonymous]

Repent OP!

[Anonymous]

Round Up according to studies is harmless to harmless to people.

Farmers who use it extensively have no side effects.

And that lady in Bethesda with weeds everywhere she is far more likely to kill someone from an asthma attack from all the weeds.

[Anonymous]

Would love to know how many of the anti-roundup clan drink alcohol - which is definitely carcinogenic to humans. Glyphosate is a probable carcinogen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Round Up according to studies is harmless to harmless to people.

Farmers who use it extensively have no side effects.

And that lady in Bethesda with weeds everywhere she is far more likely to kill someone from an asthma attack from all the weeds.

But humans are not the only living creatures that have to deal with roundup. There are birds and bugs and bees that are all part of the ecosystem outside and have to deal with these chemicals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would love to know how many of the anti-roundup clan drink alcohol - which is definitely carcinogenic to humans. Glyphosate is a probable carcinogen.

I refrain from both roundup and alcohol lol. It hasn’t really lowered my quality of life.