Two more students accepted to all 8 Ivies this year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These kids get trotted out every year and it does get tiresome. To a thoughtful person, there are meaningful difference between the eight ivy league schools in terms of strength of discipline, location, size, culture, etc. To mindlessly spray out eight applications and presumably another eight to cover your bases with the Stanfords, MITs, and the like seems like a chase for glory, not a rationale process. This suspicion of course is only confirmed by the fact that these applicants and/or their parents contacted the media to share their joy with the world.

I've got to say, this thing on DCUM where a kid is obviously ignorant or an attention-seeker if they don't find the perfect "fit" reflects such a privileged mindset. You want the right "fit" for your kid because you've got a robust 529 and an engaged college counselor and two college-educated parents with helpful perspectives and the idea of going to college is an absolute given, so researching the minutiae involved in making it perfect for Larlo becomes the priority.

It might be hard to believe, but a lot of kids don't have those resources. Going to college is a much more opaque process for someone who is the first in their family to do so, or an immigrant, or a really bright kid being encouraged by some adults in their life to shoot for the stars and admonished by others not to wast money, and what these kids know they want for sure is opportunity. And everyone, even if you're not a legacy, recognizes that Ivies represent opportunity. So if a kid applies to all 8 Ivies when she would have been a great fit at Brown but based on personality is maybe a less-ideal fit at Harvard, scoffing at them for not knowing that in advance, or for not focusing on "fit" in the application process is just a way of pulling the ladder up one rung further: now it's not impressive to get into all 8 Ivies (spoiler alert: yes it is). Now it's only impressive to know which Ivy would be the ideal setting to polish the uncut diamond that is Larlo's mind, and anyone who takes a broader approach is a plebe.

You seem like the smartest person in this thread! Continue being great PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s just a sad commentary on what our educational system in the US has become. So few kids able to get in to top universities and then a whole slew who get into 8 at once? It’s not even rational. There are either not enough great universities, or the educational system is failing to identify the true best and brightest.

Your post doesn’t make any sense. These schools aren’t missing “the best and brightest”. There are just too many bright. Plus these kids will ultimately take 1 spot each. The other 7 spots will go to other kids off a waitlist (if the classes weren’t overrolled—in which case they were given to other kids to begin with). The ONLY kids who might be suffering from this process are kids in these kids’ own classes or schools (bcause the colleges may only admit 1 or 2 kids per school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These kids get trotted out every year and it does get tiresome. To a thoughtful person, there are meaningful difference between the eight ivy league schools in terms of strength of discipline, location, size, culture, etc. To mindlessly spray out eight applications and presumably another eight to cover your bases with the Stanfords, MITs, and the like seems like a chase for glory, not a rationale process. This suspicion of course is only confirmed by the fact that these applicants and/or their parents contacted the media to share their joy with the world.

I've got to say, this thing on DCUM where a kid is obviously ignorant or an attention-seeker if they don't find the perfect "fit" reflects such a privileged mindset. You want the right "fit" for your kid because you've got a robust 529 and an engaged college counselor and two college-educated parents with helpful perspectives and the idea of going to college is an absolute given, so researching the minutiae involved in making it perfect for Larlo becomes the priority.

It might be hard to believe, but a lot of kids don't have those resources. Going to college is a much more opaque process for someone who is the first in their family to do so, or an immigrant, or a really bright kid being encouraged by some adults in their life to shoot for the stars and admonished by others not to wast money, and what these kids know they want for sure is opportunity. And everyone, even if you're not a legacy, recognizes that Ivies represent opportunity. So if a kid applies to all 8 Ivies when she would have been a great fit at Brown but based on personality is maybe a less-ideal fit at Harvard, scoffing at them for not knowing that in advance, or for not focusing on "fit" in the application process is just a way of pulling the ladder up one rung further: now it's not impressive to get into all 8 Ivies (spoiler alert: yes it is). Now it's only impressive to know which Ivy would be the ideal setting to polish the uncut diamond that is Larlo's mind, and anyone who takes a broader approach is a plebe.

Your racism is showing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These kids get trotted out every year and it does get tiresome. To a thoughtful person, there are meaningful difference between the eight ivy league schools in terms of strength of discipline, location, size, culture, etc. To mindlessly spray out eight applications and presumably another eight to cover your bases with the Stanfords, MITs, and the like seems like a chase for glory, not a rationale process. This suspicion of course is only confirmed by the fact that these applicants and/or their parents contacted the media to share their joy with the world.

I've got to say, this thing on DCUM where a kid is obviously ignorant or an attention-seeker if they don't find the perfect "fit" reflects such a privileged mindset. You want the right "fit" for your kid because you've got a robust 529 and an engaged college counselor and two college-educated parents with helpful perspectives and the idea of going to college is an absolute given, so researching the minutiae involved in making it perfect for Larlo becomes the priority.

It might be hard to believe, but a lot of kids don't have those resources. Going to college is a much more opaque process for someone who is the first in their family to do so, or an immigrant, or a really bright kid being encouraged by some adults in their life to shoot for the stars and admonished by others not to wast money, and what these kids know they want for sure is opportunity. And everyone, even if you're not a legacy, recognizes that Ivies represent opportunity. So if a kid applies to all 8 Ivies when she would have been a great fit at Brown but based on personality is maybe a less-ideal fit at Harvard, scoffing at them for not knowing that in advance, or for not focusing on "fit" in the application process is just a way of pulling the ladder up one rung further: now it's not impressive to get into all 8 Ivies (spoiler alert: yes it is). Now it's only impressive to know which Ivy would be the ideal setting to polish the uncut diamond that is Larlo's mind, and anyone who takes a broader approach is a plebe.

Your racism is showing.

DP. I get it. Someone expressing an awareness and understanding of a minority's state of being is racism for you. Loudly supporting someoneelse with entitlement mentality is being knowledgeable and fair minded for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These kids get trotted out every year and it does get tiresome. To a thoughtful person, there are meaningful difference between the eight ivy league schools in terms of strength of discipline, location, size, culture, etc. To mindlessly spray out eight applications and presumably another eight to cover your bases with the Stanfords, MITs, and the like seems like a chase for glory, not a rationale process. This suspicion of course is only confirmed by the fact that these applicants and/or their parents contacted the media to share their joy with the world.

I've got to say, this thing on DCUM where a kid is obviously ignorant or an attention-seeker if they don't find the perfect "fit" reflects such a privileged mindset. You want the right "fit" for your kid because you've got a robust 529 and an engaged college counselor and two college-educated parents with helpful perspectives and the idea of going to college is an absolute given, so researching the minutiae involved in making it perfect for Larlo becomes the priority.

It might be hard to believe, but a lot of kids don't have those resources. Going to college is a much more opaque process for someone who is the first in their family to do so, or an immigrant, or a really bright kid being encouraged by some adults in their life to shoot for the stars and admonished by others not to wast money, and what these kids know they want for sure is opportunity. And everyone, even if you're not a legacy, recognizes that Ivies represent opportunity. So if a kid applies to all 8 Ivies when she would have been a great fit at Brown but based on personality is maybe a less-ideal fit at Harvard, scoffing at them for not knowing that in advance, or for not focusing on "fit" in the application process is just a way of pulling the ladder up one rung further: now it's not impressive to get into all 8 Ivies (spoiler alert: yes it is). Now it's only impressive to know which Ivy would be the ideal setting to polish the uncut diamond that is Larlo's mind, and anyone who takes a broader approach is a plebe.

Your racism is showing.

DP. I get it. Someone expressing an awareness and understanding of a minority's state of being is racism for you. Loudly supporting someoneelse with entitlement mentality is being knowledgeable and fair minded for you.

Yes, it is very racist to assume that this girl is the first to attend college in her family, or that she’s poor, or that she has no idea what she’s doing. Would you say that if she was white? Of course you wouldn’t.