s/o What is a reasonable college expectation for the "normal excellent" student

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This profile fits my DC, current Senior, pretty well. Will let you know about Colgate, Hamilton, W&M and W&L in a couple of weeks. The early results at mid tier privates with lots of merit money have been very positive. The advice someone gave to research "lesser" schools with excellent programs in what your DC wants to study is good advice.

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I know of at least one kid this year who was deferred at UVA (in-state) and accepted at Michigan. Sounds like geographic diversity and the desire for OOS tuition checks is a real thing.

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Which states have great flagship schools (like UVA or better)? I don't mind my kid getting into one of those and my spouse or I move to that state and establish residency so DC can be in-state from year 2 on?

We are looking at California, NC, and MD for now. Any others?

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Anonymous wrote:Which states have great flagship schools (like UVA or better)? I don't mind my kid getting into one of those and my spouse or I move to that state and establish residency so DC can be in-state from year 2 on?

We are looking at California, NC, and MD for now. Any others?

Add Michigan and that would be my list as well.

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Anonymous wrote:This profile fits my DC, current Senior, pretty well. Will let you know about Colgate, Hamilton, W&M and W&L in a couple of weeks. The early results at mid tier privates with lots of merit money have been very positive. The advice someone gave to research "lesser" schools with excellent programs in what your DC wants to study is good advice.

Would you mind sharing the names of those mid-tier privates? Thanks much.

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Anonymous wrote:Which states have great flagship schools (like UVA or better)? I don't mind my kid getting into one of those and my spouse or I move to that state and establish residency so DC can be in-state from year 2 on?

We are looking at California, NC, and MD for now. Any others?

Check the rules. There's typically a look back provision, and you'd need to live there for more than a year before your child would get in-state tuition.

https://www.ucop.edu/residency/residency-requirements.html

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What are the stats for “normal excellent student”? 1500 SAT:33 ACT 4.0?

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Anonymous wrote:Which states have great flagship schools (like UVA or better)? I don't mind my kid getting into one of those and my spouse or I move to that state and establish residency so DC can be in-state from year 2 on?

We are looking at California, NC, and MD for now. Any others?

Add Michigan and that would be my list as well.

We were interested in UVA and UNC, but figured since they’re comparable that it would be easier for DC to get into UVA. uVA accepts @70% of instate apps and UNC accepts @80% of in state apps. So if UNC accepted them there’s a good chance that UVA would have as well. So only applied to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Has Elon become that hard to get into?

Not so much that, more that these "normal excellent" students I know didn't get into any of their top choices. Given the choice between the schools they did get into (at full price) and Elon, they picked Elon.

Ah, ok. We are going to look at it for my dd who isn’t a “normal excellent” student but is in the range of Elon’s stats (but not for merit). If she loves it (or any other private) sounds like she’ll have to apply ED.

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Anonymous wrote:Which states have great flagship schools (like UVA or better)? I don't mind my kid getting into one of those and my spouse or I move to that state and establish residency so DC can be in-state from year 2 on?

We are looking at California, NC, and MD for now. Any others?

Add Michigan and that would be my list as well.

We were interested in UVA and UNC, but figured since they’re comparable that it would be easier for DC to get into UVA. uVA accepts @70% of instate apps and UNC accepts @80% of in state apps. So if UNC accepted them there’s a good chance that UVA would have as well. So only applied to UVA.

There's no way UVA accepts 70% of instate apps.

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OP, a lot of those kids will get into the honors Programs at state flagships. It is kind of sad. Back in my day any fool could get in just about anywhere but Ivies, S, MIT anti Little Ivies. I recall a couple of brilliant girls from Holton going to places I'd never heard of. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Which states have great flagship schools (like UVA or better)? I don't mind my kid getting into one of those and my spouse or I move to that state and establish residency so DC can be in-state from year 2 on?

We are looking at California, NC, and MD for now. Any others?

Add Michigan and that would be my list as well.

We were interested in UVA and UNC, but figured since they’re comparable that it would be easier for DC to get into UVA. uVA accepts @70% of instate apps and UNC accepts @80% of in state apps. So if UNC accepted them there’s a good chance that UVA would have as well. So only applied to UVA.

There's no way UVA accepts 70% of instate apps.

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No way.

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Anonymous wrote:Which states have great flagship schools (like UVA or better)? I don't mind my kid getting into one of those and my spouse or I move to that state and establish residency so DC can be in-state from year 2 on?

We are looking at California, NC, and MD for now. Any others?

Add Michigan and that would be my list as well.

We were interested in UVA and UNC, but figured since they’re comparable that it would be easier for DC to get into UVA. uVA accepts @70% of instate apps and UNC accepts @80% of in state apps. So if UNC accepted them there’s a good chance that UVA would have as well. So only applied to UVA.

There's no way UVA accepts 70% of instate apps.

I think PP meant that by law UVA's enrollment must be 70% in state students. And UNC must be 80% in-state enrollment.

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"Check the rules. There's typically a look back provision, and you'd need to live there for more than a year before your child would get in-state tuition."

Even beyond the rules, you would have to live in the new state for a total of 4 years. At the outside, leaving merit money on the table because the exact schools would determine which was better and worse, the difference between $64K for Berkeley and $26k UMd or $32k UVa is less than $160k.

By the time you set up a second household, is it really worth it? Wouldn't it be easier to find a part time job or put you career in overdrive during those 4 years to make up the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:"Check the rules. There's typically a look back provision, and you'd need to live there for more than a year before your child would get in-state tuition."

Even beyond the rules, you would have to live in the new state for a total of 4 years. At the outside, leaving merit money on the table because the exact schools would determine which was better and worse, the difference between $64K for Berkeley and $26k UMd or $32k UVa is less than $160k.

By the time you set up a second household, is it really worth it? Wouldn't it be easier to find a part time job or put you career in overdrive during those 4 years to make up the difference?

We live in VA. MD is easy enough. Buy an TH, drivers license, utilities, etc. Rent most of it and keep a room and continue to live in VA. Taxes (work included) will be at that address. I've seen it done. Keep the TH as a rental after the 4 years are up or sell. This would cost us about $500/month (for the room we would retain).

NC - is one of our target retirement destinations. More difficult to do the above. Buy our retirement home (we'll need that soon anyways), driver's license, utilities, etc. Rent the home in the summer months for some income. Otherwise, either live there or leave it locked up. DH's job is flexible in terms of location so not an issue. Haven't seen this done however so might be a stretch.

Michigan and Cali are def. more difficult to do this. I'd rather pay the difference.