Boss found out I'm leaving before I gave notice and before bonus hit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lear your lesson, never give out references until you want the references called.

Do you read? He/She said that the new company contacted the old company without her consent. It wasn't a reference issue.

How would they know she worked there? She gave them the info.

Do... do you really think people can get a new job without disclosing who their current employer is? You think all of our resumes should say "Company - Anonymous (to be disclosed at a later date)"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lear your lesson, never give out references until you want the references called.

Do you read? He/She said that the new company contacted the old company without her consent. It wasn't a reference issue.

How would they know she worked there? She gave them the info.

Do... do you really think people can get a new job without disclosing who their current employer is? You think all of our resumes should say "Company - Anonymous (to be disclosed at a later date)"?

i know, right? maybe because it's on the resume?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lear your lesson, never give out references until you want the references called.

Do you read? He/She said that the new company contacted the old company without her consent. It wasn't a reference issue.

How would they know she worked there? She gave them the info.

Do... do you really think people can get a new job without disclosing who their current employer is? You think all of our resumes should say "Company - Anonymous (to be disclosed at a later date)"?

i know, right? maybe because it's on the resume?

Yea sure but you don’t usually get to someone’s boss by calling the main line and asking for so and so’s boss. They had a name and a phone number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:had a similar instance.

usually performance bonus' were paid to the branch staff in mid-late march after the year end numbers were tallied

I was scheduled to start work for a new company April 10th

bonus checks for OUR branch office were delayed until april 15.

guess who did not get the bonus check. as a result of the "must be currently employed" wording in contract. FWIW every other branch in our region got bonus checks prior to april...

I was super pissed. I specifically delayed my start at the new job as a result of the bonus, I worked right up until the last day. trained my replacement, I did not burn any bridges when I left.

I later found out that the checks for our branch had been distributed to the office, but the branch manager sat on them until I left. I spoke with a lawyer, but he didn't think I'd have any case based on the employment contract i signed.

fast forward three years the called me out of the blue and wanted me to come back. I said Id think about it. A few dayslater I called and laid out my demands, including a signing bonus exactly for what they held back when I left.

They seemed confused at the strange number (25,632.45, yes i still remember it 14 years later) I explained that it was the year end bonus the branch manager X withheld from me when I left 3 years ago...

they never called back

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. You dodged a bullet. They would have screwed you again.

I know they would have, long term, but if I could have gotten the 25K as a signing bonus with no time based employment requirements, I would have gone back for a few months and then bailed .I had explained the story to my current boss and he was ready to allow me to take a short term leave of absence just to get my bonus back...

[Anonymous]

HR most likely call to confirm salary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lear your lesson, never give out references until you want the references called.

Do you read? He/She said that the new company contacted the old company without her consent. It wasn't a reference issue.

How would they know she worked there? She gave them the info.

Do... do you really think people can get a new job without disclosing who their current employer is? You think all of our resumes should say "Company - Anonymous (to be disclosed at a later date)"?

i know, right? maybe because it's on the resume?

Yea sure but you don’t usually get to someone’s boss by calling the main line and asking for so and so’s boss. They had a name and a phone number.

Or they called the main line and asked for HR and then HR told OP's boss...

[Anonymous]

I had something similar happen to me. I stupidly gave notice before bonuses were given because I assumed/hoped they would do the right thing and give me SOME portion of the bonus since I worked my ass off the previous year, even if they didn't give it all. Nothing. And now they come knocking wanting me to become a client....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you actually tell the new firm not to contact them? If so, maybe you can get the new firm to somehow make it up to you.

My current company did exactly this, they contacted my employer despite me telling them not to. They did it "just to confirm you actually worked for the company."

They do this, so be ready.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HR most likely call to confirm salary.

Companies don't tell other companies how much they pay employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HR most likely call to confirm salary.

Companies don't tell other companies how much they pay employees.

Want to bet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Do you know the reason why the new employer contacted the old one? I would contact them to let them know they are probably costing you your bonus, and in the future, as a matter of discretion, not to call previous employers EXCEPT with the new hire's express agreement.

I reamed out the hiring contractor that was handling my "onboarding" for my current employer. They basically sat there, let me huff and puff, and then said sorry over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
How would they know she worked there? She gave them the info.

That's not a reference

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Want to bet?

Sure. How much?

[Anonymous]

Then again, I don't tell other potential employers what I'm making. Because I'm not an idiot and all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Then again, I don't tell other potential employers what I'm making. Because I'm not an idiot and all.

Biglaw has published salaries. No mystery.