Why is LI so insular?

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Anonymous wrote:Transplants to the NYC area that move to the suburbs prefer Westchester, Connecticut and New Jersey over Long Island. What makes LI so insular and unappealing to transplants?


Racism


Yep. I don't know if it's still the case since I moved out of NY, but in Garden City they used to not sell real estate to black people or jewish people.


You probably moved out in the 1950s? I'm sure it's true, but the same can be said for most high end suburbs of NYC.


No i left in 2000. I was friends with people who were real estate agents.


There were absolutely discriminatory actions and restrictive covenants and zoning elements that kept the "undesirables" from Garden City. There were other communities that had the same. Like Garden City, Real Estate agents did not sell property to African Americans within the Herricks School District. Through the 90s they had zero African American students enrolled.



There is a difference between self selecting not to buy into a community and discriminatory real estate practices.

I would be very surprised if there was a covert operation to prevent blacks and especially Jews from buying into Garden City. Given how prominent the Jewish community is in New York and their political, legal and economic muscle, I’d need to see actual evidence of discrimination in the 1980s and 1990s before I believe you.


Jewish people really didn’t want to live there anyway. There were other neighborhoods like the 5 towns area. African Americans probably would for the schools. Hempstead which had a large AA population and bordered GC in some areas had terrible schools. Parents had to send kids to catholic schools to get a decent education.


So in other words there are no evidence of actual deliberate discrimination against Jews and African Americans wanting to move to Garden Cory in the last 30 years?
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If you think there are no poc on Long Island, drive the Cross Island and the Southern State Parkways and look around. In the early 70s, Elmont was exclusively white; it is now less than 16% white https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/elmont/demographics
The North Shore, which was exclusively white in most towns, now has many Middle Eastern & Asian people. Syosset is now 24.4% Asian
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/syosset/demographics Syosset now includes Muslim and Hindu holidays on its school calendar.
I personally know many LI born millennials/boomers & Vietnam /Gulf War vets who no longer want to live on LI (& are moving out) because of this change in demographics. This may be true for some transfers as well.
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Anonymous wrote:If you think there are no poc on Long Island, drive the Cross Island and the Southern State Parkways and look around. In the early 70s, Elmont was exclusively white; it is now less than 16% white https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/elmont/demographics
The North Shore, which was exclusively white in most towns, now has many Middle Eastern & Asian people. Syosset is now 24.4% Asian
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/syosset/demographics Syosset now includes Muslim and Hindu holidays on its school calendar.
I personally know many LI born millennials/boomers & Vietnam /Gulf War vets who no longer want to live on LI (& are moving out) because of this change in demographics. This may be true for some transfers as well.


+1. I am a POC whose family moved to Long Island in the 1970s. This thread is just idiotic.
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Most white neighborhoods discriminated against black homebuyers until around the 1970-80s. I don't think was specific to Long Island.

However, I grew up in both LI and the south. I recall people in LI being far more blatantly racist than in the south. But, yet they somehow don't think of themselves as "racist." It's those rednecks in the south who are the "real racists."

The main problem with LI is that it is too expensive, with no real justification. Dinky, 100-year homes, in need of maintenance, that are an hour outside of the city are $500-1000K. The only good jobs are in the city unless you are lucky enough to have some kind of union or overpaid government job. The traffic is bad too.

Basically, LI combines NY cost-of-living and taxes with Deep South wages, education standards, and culture. The only reason why I would ever move back is that I have family there.
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Anonymous wrote:Most white neighborhoods discriminated against black homebuyers until around the 1970-80s. I don't think was specific to Long Island.

However, I grew up in both LI and the south. I recall people in LI being far more blatantly racist than in the south. But, yet they somehow don't think of themselves as "racist." It's those rednecks in the south who are the "real racists."

The main problem with LI is that it is too expensive, with no real justification. Dinky, 100-year homes, in need of maintenance, that are an hour outside of the city are $500-1000K. The only good jobs are in the city unless you are lucky enough to have some kind of union or overpaid government job. The traffic is bad too.

Basically, LI combines NY cost-of-living and taxes with Deep South wages, education standards, and culture. The only reason why I would ever move back is that I have family there.


Deep south education standards? LI has some of the best public schools in the country. But I agree with most everything else you said.
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Educate blacks like valley stream, Chinese and Jews like same towns like Great Neck, Catholics like RVC, GC and Manhasset, WASPs like Cove Neck, Mexicans, Freeport, orthodox west Hempstead and five towns, blue collar Island park and Levittown, cops and firemen Long Island.

Long Island is self segregated
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