Why is LI so insular?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op. Have you ever been to Long Island, or are you just trolling to try to make these new area forums popular? I think it's the latter. Large swaths of Nassau County are full of NYC transplants who continue to commute to their jobs there. The Hamptons are full of NYC residents on weekends and in the summer. It's hardly an 'insular' place.

Wow, your NYE party must be a real bore, 21:49.

Anyway you didn't read the original post. Of course Nassau County is filled with "NYC transplants." It's a generation or two removed from old time Brooklyn and Queens. The post is about transplants to the NYC metropolitan area from other parts of the country.

The original post is so well written and thoughtful that its author must have been educated at the finest schools in all of Westchester.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants to the NYC area that move to the suburbs prefer Westchester, Connecticut and New Jersey over Long Island. What makes LI so insular and unappealing to transplants?

Racism

Yep. I don't know if it's still the case since I moved out of NY, but in Garden City they used to not sell real estate to black people or jewish people.

You probably moved out in the 1950s? I'm sure it's true, but the same can be said for most high end suburbs of NYC.

[Anonymous]

^ Not Scarsdale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants to the NYC area that move to the suburbs prefer Westchester, Connecticut and New Jersey over Long Island. What makes LI so insular and unappealing to transplants?

Racism

Yep. I don't know if it's still the case since I moved out of NY, but in Garden City they used to not sell real estate to black people or jewish people.

You probably moved out in the 1950s? I'm sure it's true, but the same can be said for most high end suburbs of NYC.

No i left in 2000. I was friends with people who were real estate agents.

[Anonymous]

Grew up in Queens and spent substantial time on LI. As someone mentioned, being an island makes it more isolated as even to go to upstate NY, it is a PITA to take an expressway, than a bridge or tunnel.

[Anonymous]

LI sucks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants to the NYC area that move to the suburbs prefer Westchester, Connecticut and New Jersey over Long Island. What makes LI so insular and unappealing to transplants?

Racism

Yep. I don't know if it's still the case since I moved out of NY, but in Garden City they used to not sell real estate to black people or jewish people.

You probably moved out in the 1950s? I'm sure it's true, but the same can be said for most high end suburbs of NYC.

No i left in 2000. I was friends with people who were real estate agents.

There were absolutely discriminatory actions and restrictive covenants and zoning elements that kept the "undesirables" from Garden City. There were other communities that had the same. Like Garden City, Real Estate agents did not sell property to African Americans within the Herricks School District. Through the 90s they had zero African American students enrolled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Transplants to the NYC area that move to the suburbs prefer Westchester, Connecticut and New Jersey over Long Island. What makes LI so insular and unappealing to transplants?

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/insular

of or relating to an island or islands:
insular possessions.
2.
dwelling or situated on an island.
3.
forming an island:
insular rocks.
4.
detached; standing alone; isolated.
5.
of, relating to, or characteristic of islanders.
6.
narrow-minded or illiberal; provincial:
insular attitudes toward foreigners.
7.
Pathology. occurring in or characterized by one or more isolated spots, patches, or the like.



So I am going with the Wisconsin glaciation, which formed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants to the NYC area that move to the suburbs prefer Westchester, Connecticut and New Jersey over Long Island. What makes LI so insular and unappealing to transplants?

Racism

Yep. I don't know if it's still the case since I moved out of NY, but in Garden City they used to not sell real estate to black people or jewish people.

You probably moved out in the 1950s? I'm sure it's true, but the same can be said for most high end suburbs of NYC.

No i left in 2000. I was friends with people who were real estate agents.

There were absolutely discriminatory actions and restrictive covenants and zoning elements that kept the "undesirables" from Garden City. There were other communities that had the same. Like Garden City, Real Estate agents did not sell property to African Americans within the Herricks School District. Through the 90s they had zero African American students enrolled.

There is a difference between self selecting not to buy into a community and discriminatory real estate practices.

I would be very surprised if there was a covert operation to prevent blacks and especially Jews from buying into Garden City. Given how prominent the Jewish community is in New York and their political, legal and economic muscle, I’d need to see actual evidence of discrimination in the 1980s and 1990s before I believe you.

[Anonymous]

I gotta say, this thread has made me laugh OUT LOUD and its made me miss living around the NYC area. Love you guys.

[Anonymous]

Nassau has plenty of transplants. Asking why someone who will be working in Manhattan wouldn't want to move to Suffolk is like asking why someone working in DC wouldn't want to move to Front Royal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants to the NYC area that move to the suburbs prefer Westchester, Connecticut and New Jersey over Long Island. What makes LI so insular and unappealing to transplants?

Racism

Yep. I don't know if it's still the case since I moved out of NY, but in Garden City they used to not sell real estate to black people or jewish people.

You must have left 20 +years ago. It’s changed a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants to the NYC area that move to the suburbs prefer Westchester, Connecticut and New Jersey over Long Island. What makes LI so insular and unappealing to transplants?

Racism

Yep. I don't know if it's still the case since I moved out of NY, but in Garden City they used to not sell real estate to black people or jewish people.

You probably moved out in the 1950s? I'm sure it's true, but the same can be said for most high end suburbs of NYC.

No i left in 2000. I was friends with people who were real estate agents.

There were absolutely discriminatory actions and restrictive covenants and zoning elements that kept the "undesirables" from Garden City. There were other communities that had the same. Like Garden City, Real Estate agents did not sell property to African Americans within the Herricks School District. Through the 90s they had zero African American students enrolled.

There is a difference between self selecting not to buy into a community and discriminatory real estate practices.

I would be very surprised if there was a covert operation to prevent blacks and especially Jews from buying into Garden City. Given how prominent the Jewish community is in New York and their political, legal and economic muscle, I’d need to see actual evidence of discrimination in the 1980s and 1990s before I believe you.

Jewish people really didn’t want to live there anyway. There were other neighborhoods like the 5 towns area. African Americans probably would for the schools. Hempstead which had a large AA population and bordered GC in some areas had terrible schools. Parents had to send kids to catholic schools to get a decent education.

[Anonymous]

Traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Transplants to the NYC area that move to the suburbs prefer Westchester, Connecticut and New Jersey over Long Island. What makes LI so insular and unappealing to transplants?

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/insular

of or relating to an island or islands:
insular possessions.
2.
dwelling or situated on an island.
3.
forming an island:
insular rocks.
4.
detached; standing alone; isolated.
5.
of, relating to, or characteristic of islanders.
6.
narrow-minded or illiberal; provincial:
insular attitudes toward foreigners.
7.
Pathology. occurring in or characterized by one or more isolated spots, patches, or the like.



So I am going with the Wisconsin glaciation, which formed it.

You beat me to this, PP literally, it's insular because it's an island....

It's easy to forget until, say, Hurricane Sandy hits and all the trains and ferries are down for days to a week. I was on the east end for work and felt pretty stuck!