Bulldog or greyhound

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Oh look even the crazy Uga guy is changing his time

www.redandblack.com/sports/a-more-resilient-uga-seiler-family-making-changes-to-breed/article_4bb13132-6f43-11e6-9b36-6f2311e9d059.html

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Anonymous wrote:Bulldogs have a ton of health issues.

Not necessarily. We have an English bulldog who just turned 10 in September. They say 8-10 is the average life span for English bulldogs so she's on the older end but I'd say she probably has another solid 1-2 years in her. She's had ear issues since she was a puppy- very prone to ear infections so she's been on ear drops for years. Other then that, she gets the typical seasonal alopecia and loses some fur on her sides in the spring/summer but that's been it.

You got lucky bro. Most havr it much worse than that. Also, my mutt is about 13 and he can still go running with me, has only had two eat infections, and hasn't ever lost his fur! I think he will get into his mid teens. Isn't dying at 8-10 years old kinda messed up?

Mutts win!

Don’t buy an overly mushed faced bulldog and you will probably be fine if you use common sense (ie the dog can’t be out in 90 degree weather).

I have had four bulldogs and really no serious issues other than a grass allergy.

You bought four dogs who had to be conceived with AI and delivered by Csection. And at what age did they had to be put down for their crippling arthritis? 9? How is that fair to the animal?

Um not every bulldog has to have a c-section. The litter ours came from was a normal birth and her mom has 7 puppies.

90% are delivered by Csection. That's really messed up ethically.

How so? Is it any more messed up than allowing humans to reproduce by artificial insemination or Cesarian section? Not seeing your logic here.

I knew you would use that stupid argument. It's always the first defense.

And it's a very stupid argument bc we obviously euthanize animals which most people consider unethical (andis moslty illegal in humans). We breed animals to kill and eat. We sterilize them without their consent. Clearly there are other issues at play.

You sound nuts. None of the points you made are responsive. We should let a breed die out because it needs medical care? Should we let people with anemia die out? I think if you sit down and think real hard, maybe get a pencil and draw some Venn diagrams, you will be able to understand this.

Also, quite nuts to claim that bulldog breeding is more ethical than greyhound breeding. Greyhounds are bred as racing dogs, abused in training and forced to race for gamblers’ amusement, then dumped at shelters when their racing days are past to be euthanized. Sounds very humane!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh look even the crazy Uga guy is changing his time

www.redandblack.com/sports/a-more-resilient-uga-seiler-family-making-changes-to-breed/article_4bb13132-6f43-11e6-9b36-6f2311e9d059.html

I agree that healthy breeding should be encouraged. There are lots of bad breeders out there. This is one area where a bit more govt regulation is needed.

This is what bulldogs looked like 100 years ago and what we should go back to:

[Anonymous]

Bulldogs are not easy in the sense that they have sooo many health issues that are expensive and are difficult to train and stubborn. They also are not good dogs around rambunctious kids--kids often don't understand the dog doesn't want to do something or get up.

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Anonymous wrote:Bulldogs are not easy in the sense that they have sooo many health issues that are expensive and are difficult to train and stubborn. They also are not good dogs around rambunctious kids--kids often don't understand the dog doesn't want to do something or get up.

Kids can more easily injure a brittle greyhound than a bulldog. But they can over exert a bulldog.

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Anonymous wrote:Bulldogs have a ton of health issues.

Not necessarily. We have an English bulldog who just turned 10 in September. They say 8-10 is the average life span for English bulldogs so she's on the older end but I'd say she probably has another solid 1-2 years in her. She's had ear issues since she was a puppy- very prone to ear infections so she's been on ear drops for years. Other then that, she gets the typical seasonal alopecia and loses some fur on her sides in the spring/summer but that's been it.

You got lucky bro. Most havr it much worse than that. Also, my mutt is about 13 and he can still go running with me, has only had two eat infections, and hasn't ever lost his fur! I think he will get into his mid teens. Isn't dying at 8-10 years old kinda messed up?

Mutts win!

Don’t buy an overly mushed faced bulldog and you will probably be fine if you use common sense (ie the dog can’t be out in 90 degree weather).

I have had four bulldogs and really no serious issues other than a grass allergy.

You bought four dogs who had to be conceived with AI and delivered by Csection. And at what age did they had to be put down for their crippling arthritis? 9? How is that fair to the animal?

Um not every bulldog has to have a c-section. The litter ours came from was a normal birth and her mom has 7 puppies.

90% are delivered by Csection. That's really messed up ethically.

How so? Is it any more messed up than allowing humans to reproduce by artificial insemination or Cesarian section? Not seeing your logic here.

I knew you would use that stupid argument. It's always the first defense.

And it's a very stupid argument bc we obviously euthanize animals which most people consider unethical (andis moslty illegal in humans). We breed animals to kill and eat. We sterilize them without their consent. Clearly there are other issues at play.

You sound nuts. None of the points you made are responsive. We should let a breed die out because it needs medical care? Should we let people with anemia die out? I think if you sit down and think real hard, maybe get a pencil and draw some Venn diagrams, you will be able to understand this.

Also, quite nuts to claim that bulldog breeding is more ethical than greyhound breeding. Greyhounds are bred as racing dogs, abused in training and forced to race for gamblers’ amusement, then dumped at shelters when their racing days are past to be euthanized. Sounds very humane!

1. Yes we should let a breed die out. There is no need for bulldogs other than for our amusement. We are basically creating chondrodyplastic dwarves with severely brachycephalic faces to the point where they can barely breathe just bc. We think they are cute.

2. How we treat animals is different as to how we treat people.

3. I don't think we should breed Greyhounds either. But the question in the OP was should we get a greyhound rescue or BUY a bulldog. Obviously rescuing dogs is much more ethical.

[Anonymous]

Large dogs just sleep all day, they are very mellow. Small dogs are always right behind you when you walk around the house - I had both sizes simultaneously.

I never owned either breed but I heard that English bulldogs fart a LOT. Like all the time.
French bulldog may be? If you want a bulldog type.

In my book rescue beats purchase from the breeder.

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Greyhounds aren’t fragile and brittle; maybe PP is thinking of a whippet?

Greyhounds are great, but they are only active in spurts. They’re not dogs to take hiking for hours, or go running with. They can be skittish depending on their background. But they’re sweet; you never hear of one mauling it’s owner.

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Anonymous wrote:Bulldogs have a ton of health issues.

Not necessarily. We have an English bulldog who just turned 10 in September. They say 8-10 is the average life span for English bulldogs so she's on the older end but I'd say she probably has another solid 1-2 years in her. She's had ear issues since she was a puppy- very prone to ear infections so she's been on ear drops for years. Other then that, she gets the typical seasonal alopecia and loses some fur on her sides in the spring/summer but that's been it.

You got lucky bro. Most havr it much worse than that. Also, my mutt is about 13 and he can still go running with me, has only had two eat infections, and hasn't ever lost his fur! I think he will get into his mid teens. Isn't dying at 8-10 years old kinda messed up?

Mutts win!

Don’t buy an overly mushed faced bulldog and you will probably be fine if you use common sense (ie the dog can’t be out in 90 degree weather).

I have had four bulldogs and really no serious issues other than a grass allergy.

You bought four dogs who had to be conceived with AI and delivered by Csection. And at what age did they had to be put down for their crippling arthritis? 9? How is that fair to the animal?

Um not every bulldog has to have a c-section. The litter ours came from was a normal birth and her mom has 7 puppies.

90% are delivered by Csection. That's really messed up ethically.

How so? Is it any more messed up than allowing humans to reproduce by artificial insemination or Cesarian section? Not seeing your logic here.

I knew you would use that stupid argument. It's always the first defense.

And it's a very stupid argument bc we obviously euthanize animals which most people consider unethical (andis moslty illegal in humans). We breed animals to kill and eat. We sterilize them without their consent. Clearly there are other issues at play.

You sound nuts. None of the points you made are responsive. We should let a breed die out because it needs medical care? Should we let people with anemia die out? I think if you sit down and think real hard, maybe get a pencil and draw some Venn diagrams, you will be able to understand this.

Also, quite nuts to claim that bulldog breeding is more ethical than greyhound breeding. Greyhounds are bred as racing dogs, abused in training and forced to race for gamblers’ amusement, then dumped at shelters when their racing days are past to be euthanized. Sounds very humane!

1. Yes we should let a breed die out. There is no need for bulldogs other than for our amusement. We are basically creating chondrodyplastic dwarves with severely brachycephalic faces to the point where they can barely breathe just bc. We think they are cute.

2. How we treat animals is different as to how we treat people.

3. I don't think we should breed Greyhounds either. But the question in the OP was should we get a greyhound rescue or BUY a bulldog. Obviously rescuing dogs is much more ethical.

You aren’t very knowledgeable. Bulldogs from good breeders can breathe just fine. Restricted trachea and nostrils are a defect that can and should be avoided. Bulldogs have as good a life as any dog.

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Anonymous wrote:Bulldogs have a ton of health issues.

Not necessarily. We have an English bulldog who just turned 10 in September. They say 8-10 is the average life span for English bulldogs so she's on the older end but I'd say she probably has another solid 1-2 years in her. She's had ear issues since she was a puppy- very prone to ear infections so she's been on ear drops for years. Other then that, she gets the typical seasonal alopecia and loses some fur on her sides in the spring/summer but that's been it.

You got lucky bro. Most havr it much worse than that. Also, my mutt is about 13 and he can still go running with me, has only had two eat infections, and hasn't ever lost his fur! I think he will get into his mid teens. Isn't dying at 8-10 years old kinda messed up?

Mutts win!

Don’t buy an overly mushed faced bulldog and you will probably be fine if you use common sense (ie the dog can’t be out in 90 degree weather).

I have had four bulldogs and really no serious issues other than a grass allergy.

You bought four dogs who had to be conceived with AI and delivered by Csection. And at what age did they had to be put down for their crippling arthritis? 9? How is that fair to the animal?

Um not every bulldog has to have a c-section. The litter ours came from was a normal birth and her mom has 7 puppies.

90% are delivered by Csection. That's really messed up ethically.

How so? Is it any more messed up than allowing humans to reproduce by artificial insemination or Cesarian section? Not seeing your logic here.

I knew you would use that stupid argument. It's always the first defense.

And it's a very stupid argument bc we obviously euthanize animals which most people consider unethical (andis moslty illegal in humans). We breed animals to kill and eat. We sterilize them without their consent. Clearly there are other issues at play.

You sound nuts. None of the points you made are responsive. We should let a breed die out because it needs medical care? Should we let people with anemia die out? I think if you sit down and think real hard, maybe get a pencil and draw some Venn diagrams, you will be able to understand this.

Also, quite nuts to claim that bulldog breeding is more ethical than greyhound breeding. Greyhounds are bred as racing dogs, abused in training and forced to race for gamblers’ amusement, then dumped at shelters when their racing days are past to be euthanized. Sounds very humane!

1. Yes we should let a breed die out. There is no need for bulldogs other than for our amusement. We are basically creating chondrodyplastic dwarves with severely brachycephalic faces to the point where they can barely breathe just bc. We think they are cute.

2. How we treat animals is different as to how we treat people.

3. I don't think we should breed Greyhounds either. But the question in the OP was should we get a greyhound rescue or BUY a bulldog. Obviously rescuing dogs is much more ethical.

You aren’t very knowledgeable. Bulldogs from good breeders can breathe just fine. Restricted trachea and nostrils are a defect that can and should be avoided. Bulldogs have as good a life as any dog.

Any dog that can't take a walk when it is hot or it will fall over dead does not have a good life.


Or take a Veteinary Cardiologist'@s opinion from the article I posted:
That is undeniably true, but there remains an unwillingness on the part of Sickle and other bulldog show breeders to acknowledge what I heard from veterinarians across the country. “The main problem with this breed is its basic, fundamental design,” said Nancy Laste, a veterinary cardiologist who helped care for Uga V and VI when she was an intern at the University of Georgia in the early ’90s. “It’s a defective and unworkable design.

Or is someone with four years of vet school, an internship and a residency not very knowledgeable?

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Anonymous wrote:Greyhounds aren’t fragile and brittle; maybe PP is thinking of a whippet?

Greyhounds are great, but they are only active in spurts. They’re not dogs to take hiking for hours, or go running with. They can be skittish depending on their background. But they’re sweet; you never hear of one mauling it’s owner.

Full size greyhounds aren't fragile, but the little Italian Greyhounds are the ones that break their legs if you so much as look at them.

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Anonymous wrote:Bulldogs have a ton of health issues.

Not necessarily. We have an English bulldog who just turned 10 in September. They say 8-10 is the average life span for English bulldogs so she's on the older end but I'd say she probably has another solid 1-2 years in her. She's had ear issues since she was a puppy- very prone to ear infections so she's been on ear drops for years. Other then that, she gets the typical seasonal alopecia and loses some fur on her sides in the spring/summer but that's been it.

You got lucky bro. Most havr it much worse than that. Also, my mutt is about 13 and he can still go running with me, has only had two eat infections, and hasn't ever lost his fur! I think he will get into his mid teens. Isn't dying at 8-10 years old kinda messed up?

Mutts win!

Don’t buy an overly mushed faced bulldog and you will probably be fine if you use common sense (ie the dog can’t be out in 90 degree weather).

I have had four bulldogs and really no serious issues other than a grass allergy.

You bought four dogs who had to be conceived with AI and delivered by Csection. And at what age did they had to be put down for their crippling arthritis? 9? How is that fair to the animal?

Um not every bulldog has to have a c-section. The litter ours came from was a normal birth and her mom has 7 puppies.

90% are delivered by Csection. That's really messed up ethically.

How so? Is it any more messed up than allowing humans to reproduce by artificial insemination or Cesarian section? Not seeing your logic here.

I knew you would use that stupid argument. It's always the first defense.

And it's a very stupid argument bc we obviously euthanize animals which most people consider unethical (andis moslty illegal in humans). We breed animals to kill and eat. We sterilize them without their consent. Clearly there are other issues at play.

You sound nuts. None of the points you made are responsive. We should let a breed die out because it needs medical care? Should we let people with anemia die out? I think if you sit down and think real hard, maybe get a pencil and draw some Venn diagrams, you will be able to understand this.

Also, quite nuts to claim that bulldog breeding is more ethical than greyhound breeding. Greyhounds are bred as racing dogs, abused in training and forced to race for gamblers’ amusement, then dumped at shelters when their racing days are past to be euthanized. Sounds very humane!

1. Yes we should let a breed die out. There is no need for bulldogs other than for our amusement. We are basically creating chondrodyplastic dwarves with severely brachycephalic faces to the point where they can barely breathe just bc. We think they are cute.

2. How we treat animals is different as to how we treat people.

3. I don't think we should breed Greyhounds either. But the question in the OP was should we get a greyhound rescue or BUY a bulldog. Obviously rescuing dogs is much more ethical.

You aren’t very knowledgeable. Bulldogs from good breeders can breathe just fine. Restricted trachea and nostrils are a defect that can and should be avoided. Bulldogs have as good a life as any dog.

Any dog that can't take a walk when it is hot or it will fall over dead does not have a good life.


Or take a Veteinary Cardiologist'@s opinion from the article I posted:
That is undeniably true, but there remains an unwillingness on the part of Sickle and other bulldog show breeders to acknowledge what I heard from veterinarians across the country. “The main problem with this breed is its basic, fundamental design,” said Nancy Laste, a veterinary cardiologist who helped care for Uga V and VI when she was an intern at the University of Georgia in the early ’90s. “It’s a defective and unworkable design.

Or is someone with four years of vet school, an internship and a residency not very knowledgeable?

Silly and wrong. There is nothing wrong with the “basic design.” Bulldogs are a very well designed companion animal and are especially suited to urban life. That’s why they are now one of the most popular breeds. They aren’t “designed” to heard sheep or to run 10 miles a day. They are designed to hang out with fat lazy Americans on the couch.

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Ok PP with the fat, lazy comment...that explains it! I totally understand now why they are breeding genetic freaks with very low life spans! Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:Ok PP with the fat, lazy comment...that explains it! I totally understand now why they are breeding genetic freaks with very low life spans! Thanks!

If you are a busy person who doesn’t have time to walk a dog a mile per day, why would you get a breed that requires a ton of exercise?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok PP with the fat, lazy comment...that explains it! I totally understand now why they are breeding genetic freaks with very low life spans! Thanks!

If you are a busy person who doesn’t have time to walk a dog a mile per day, why would you get a breed that requires a ton of exercise?

Then I wouldn't get a dog...or I would hire someone to donut for me...or I would adopt an older dog who doesn't need a lot of exercise either.

But I wouldn't BUY a dog that was so inbred it can't breathe. Ever.