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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Bulldogs have a ton of health issues.[/quote]

Not necessarily. We have an English bulldog who just turned 10 in September. They say 8-10 is the average life span for English bulldogs so she's on the older end but I'd say she probably has another solid 1-2 years in her. She's had ear issues since she was a puppy- very prone to ear infections so she's been on ear drops for years. Other then that, she gets the typical seasonal alopecia and loses some fur on her sides in the spring/summer but that's been it.[/quote]

You got lucky bro. Most havr it much worse than that. Also, my mutt is about 13 and he can still go running with me, has only had two eat infections, and hasn't ever lost his fur! I think he will get into his mid teens. Isn't dying at 8-10 years old kinda messed up?

Mutts win![/quote]

Don’t buy an overly mushed faced bulldog and you will probably be fine if you use common sense (ie the dog can’t be out in 90 degree weather).

I have had four bulldogs and really no serious issues other than a grass allergy.
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You bought four dogs who had to be conceived with AI and delivered by Csection. And at what age did they had to be put down for their crippling arthritis? 9? How is that fair to the animal?[/quote]

Um not every bulldog has to have a c-section. The litter ours came from was a normal birth and her mom has 7 puppies.[/quote]

90% are delivered by Csection. That's really messed up ethically.[/quote]

How so? Is it any more messed up than allowing humans to reproduce by artificial insemination or Cesarian section? Not seeing your logic here. [/quote]

I knew you would use that stupid argument. It's always the first defense.

And it's a very stupid argument bc we obviously euthanize animals which most people consider unethical (andis moslty illegal in  humans). We breed animals to kill and eat. We sterilize them without their consent. Clearly there are other issues at play.[/quote]

You sound nuts. None of the points you made are responsive. We should let a breed die out because it needs medical care? Should we let people with anemia die out? I think if you sit down and think real hard, maybe get a pencil and draw some Venn diagrams, you will be able to understand this.

Also, quite nuts to claim that bulldog breeding is more ethical than greyhound breeding. Greyhounds are bred as racing dogs, abused in training and forced to race for gamblers’ amusement, then dumped at shelters when their racing days are past to be euthanized. Sounds very humane![/quote]

1. Yes we should let a breed die out. There is no need for bulldogs other than for our amusement. We are basically creating chondrodyplastic dwarves with severely brachycephalic faces to the point where they can barely breathe just bc. We think they are cute.

2. How we treat animals is different as to how we treat people.

3. I don't think we should breed Greyhounds either. But the question in the OP was should we get a greyhound rescue or BUY a bulldog. Obviously rescuing dogs is much more ethical.[/quote]

You aren’t very knowledgeable. Bulldogs from good breeders can breathe just fine. Restricted trachea and nostrils are a defect that can and should be avoided. Bulldogs have as good a life as any dog. [/quote]

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