Tuition to W school? Is it possible?

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to pay tuition. MCPS does not require proof of anything - they are not allowed to because we have a large population of kids who may lack appropriate documentation.

You can use a friend’s address who lives in bounds. Much cheaper than trying to figure out a way to pay tuition! Or just offer to pay someone to use their address.

We have quite a few kids at our ES and MS who do not live in boundary. They use family members’ or friends’ addresses.

Also, once you get into a MS, you can automatically go to the HS that MS feed into.

yeah good luck with that. you need to show two months of utilities and pay stubs with a custodial parent's address (just registered my kid this year). that's some pretty serious fraud you'd be engaging in.

Serious fraud? Show where anyone has ever gotten in trouble for doing this.

This. MCPS does not have the resources to go after this.

We know of several families that have done this over the years without any consequences.

It’s not a big issue.

Incorrect, it's absolutely a major issue when kids are in trailer classrooms and not fitting in lunch hour at lunch time. Plus the budgeting gets off. and the projection models even more so.

All the schools have portables! Well, most of them. So it’s no different if your kid attends one overcrowded school versus another.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to pay tuition. MCPS does not require proof of anything - they are not allowed to because we have a large population of kids who may lack appropriate documentation.

You can use a friend’s address who lives in bounds. Much cheaper than trying to figure out a way to pay tuition! Or just offer to pay someone to use their address.

We have quite a few kids at our ES and MS who do not live in boundary. They use family members’ or friends’ addresses.

Also, once you get into a MS, you can automatically go to the HS that MS feed into.

yeah good luck with that. you need to show two months of utilities and pay stubs with a custodial parent's address (just registered my kid this year). that's some pretty serious fraud you'd be engaging in.

Serious fraud? Show where anyone has ever gotten in trouble for doing this.

Do you read the news? Here's a MD couple who got fined half a million dollars for sending their kids to DC schools.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/md-family-that-sent-kids-to-dc-public-schools-must-pay-more-than-500000-fine/2016/07/28/b7f3656c-54eb-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html?utm_term=.0072068067b0

That is DC schools! It is well known that MCPS does not go after this.

There is a fraud hotline. http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/fraudhotline/
And if you think the Type A parents at already overcrowded W schools aren't going to report someone who is obviously living in Tenleytown, you're mistaken.

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If I know that someone is committing residency fraud, I am reporting it.

You can report it all you want, but it is incredibly difficult to prove where people live. The people who I know that do this have their utility bills sent to an in boundary address. But they live out of boundary. There is NO WAY MCPS can prove this. Impossible.

Nonsense. It's not impossible. Other states have done this with surveillance vehicles, and sometimes the parents just admit to it when asked (these are not highly sophisticated crime masterminds). It may not be an MCPS priority, but I predict it will become more of an issue in the future, as schools get so overcrowded and the MCPS planning for new schools continues to lag behind.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to pay tuition. MCPS does not require proof of anything - they are not allowed to because we have a large population of kids who may lack appropriate documentation.

You can use a friend’s address who lives in bounds. Much cheaper than trying to figure out a way to pay tuition! Or just offer to pay someone to use their address.

We have quite a few kids at our ES and MS who do not live in boundary. They use family members’ or friends’ addresses.

Also, once you get into a MS, you can automatically go to the HS that MS feed into.

yeah good luck with that. you need to show two months of utilities and pay stubs with a custodial parent's address (just registered my kid this year). that's some pretty serious fraud you'd be engaging in.

Serious fraud? Show where anyone has ever gotten in trouble for doing this.

Do you read the news? Here's a MD couple who got fined half a million dollars for sending their kids to DC schools.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/md-family-that-sent-kids-to-dc-public-schools-must-pay-more-than-500000-fine/2016/07/28/b7f3656c-54eb-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html?utm_term=.0072068067b0

That is DC schools! It is well known that MCPS does not go after this.

There is a fraud hotline. http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/fraudhotline/
And if you think the Type A parents at already overcrowded W schools aren't going to report someone who is obviously living in Tenleytown, you're mistaken.

This is the MCPS employee Fraud Hotline. To report fraud and waste in the school system. It does not have ‘residency fraud’ listed as one of the reasons to call.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to pay tuition. MCPS does not require proof of anything - they are not allowed to because we have a large population of kids who may lack appropriate documentation.

You can use a friend’s address who lives in bounds. Much cheaper than trying to figure out a way to pay tuition! Or just offer to pay someone to use their address.

We have quite a few kids at our ES and MS who do not live in boundary. They use family members’ or friends’ addresses.

Also, once you get into a MS, you can automatically go to the HS that MS feed into.

yeah good luck with that. you need to show two months of utilities and pay stubs with a custodial parent's address (just registered my kid this year). that's some pretty serious fraud you'd be engaging in.

Serious fraud? Show where anyone has ever gotten in trouble for doing this.

Do you read the news? Here's a MD couple who got fined half a million dollars for sending their kids to DC schools.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/md-family-that-sent-kids-to-dc-public-schools-must-pay-more-than-500000-fine/2016/07/28/b7f3656c-54eb-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html?utm_term=.0072068067b0

That is DC schools! It is well known that MCPS does not go after this.

There is a fraud hotline. http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/fraudhotline/
And if you think the Type A parents at already overcrowded W schools aren't going to report someone who is obviously living in Tenleytown, you're mistaken.

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If I know that someone is committing residency fraud, I am reporting it.

You can report it all you want, but it is incredibly difficult to prove where people live. The people who I know that do this have their utility bills sent to an in boundary address. But they live out of boundary. There is NO WAY MCPS can prove this. Impossible.

Nonsense. It's not impossible. Other states have done this with surveillance vehicles, and sometimes the parents just admit to it when asked (these are not highly sophisticated crime masterminds). It may not be an MCPS priority, but I predict it will become more of an issue in the future, as schools get so overcrowded and the MCPS planning for new schools continues to lag behind.

Hilarious! MCPS can barely fund enough Teachers. Our K classes have no side this year. I’m confident they will not be hiring surveillance vehicles to track down where Latlo and Larlita live. Especially when Larlo and Larlita’s parents don’t even speak English!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also vote for renting for a few years and moving while your kid in in HS. My child is at Murch now and going to Deal in a few years, but he will not be going to Wilson. I'm renting now so it's not a huge issue when we have to move for HS.

Do you realize that your child would be at Wilson with the exact same kids he goes to school with at Murch and Deal? The current freshman class at Wilson is 80% Deal students. And if you go to Deal, your child is going to want to go to Wilson with all his friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Just move. If you can't afford a SFH in the zone you want, rent an apartment for a few years.

+1 I'd rather live in DC too (closer to my office), but there's a reason people start flocking to MoCo in the elementary school years and beyond.

Only if they live on the Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:Just move. If you can't afford a SFH in the zone you want, rent an apartment for a few years.

+1 I'd rather live in DC too (closer to my office), but there's a reason people start flocking to MoCo in the elementary school years and beyond.

Only if they live on the Hill.

Well, the OP of this thread lives in the Wilson catchement and doesn't think it's good enough for her kid. So it's not "just the Hill."

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to pay tuition. MCPS does not require proof of anything - they are not allowed to because we have a large population of kids who may lack appropriate documentation.

You can use a friend’s address who lives in bounds. Much cheaper than trying to figure out a way to pay tuition! Or just offer to pay someone to use their address.

We have quite a few kids at our ES and MS who do not live in boundary. They use family members’ or friends’ addresses.

Also, once you get into a MS, you can automatically go to the HS that MS feed into.

yeah good luck with that. you need to show two months of utilities and pay stubs with a custodial parent's address (just registered my kid this year). that's some pretty serious fraud you'd be engaging in.

Serious fraud? Show where anyone has ever gotten in trouble for doing this.

Do you read the news? Here's a MD couple who got fined half a million dollars for sending their kids to DC schools.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/md-family-that-sent-kids-to-dc-public-schools-must-pay-more-than-500000-fine/2016/07/28/b7f3656c-54eb-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html?utm_term=.0072068067b0

That is DC schools! It is well known that MCPS does not go after this.

There is a fraud hotline. http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/fraudhotline/
And if you think the Type A parents at already overcrowded W schools aren't going to report someone who is obviously living in Tenleytown, you're mistaken.

+100

If I know that someone is committing residency fraud, I am reporting it.

You can report it all you want, but it is incredibly difficult to prove where people live. The people who I know that do this have their utility bills sent to an in boundary address. But they live out of boundary. There is NO WAY MCPS can prove this. Impossible.

Nonsense. It's not impossible. Other states have done this with surveillance vehicles, and sometimes the parents just admit to it when asked (these are not highly sophisticated crime masterminds). It may not be an MCPS priority, but I predict it will become more of an issue in the future, as schools get so overcrowded and the MCPS planning for new schools continues to lag behind.

Hilarious! MCPS can barely fund enough Teachers. Our K classes have no side this year. I’m confident they will not be hiring surveillance vehicles to track down where Latlo and Larlita live. Especially when Larlo and Larlita’s parents don’t even speak English!

MCPS may have other priorities they wish to focus on. But it's definitely not "Impossible."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just move. If you can't afford a SFH in the zone you want, rent an apartment for a few years.

+1 I'd rather live in DC too (closer to my office), but there's a reason people start flocking to MoCo in the elementary school years and beyond.

Only if they live on the Hill.

Well, the OP of this thread lives in the Wilson catchement and doesn't think it's good enough for her kid. So it's not "just the Hill."

My MoCo elementary school has plenty of kids who were previously living in the Murch and Key areas for the free preK and then moved over.

[Anonymous]

We moved to MoCo from the Murch feeder, we liked the free pre-k and aides in kindergarten. After primary grades, DCPS is one big gaffe.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to pay tuition. MCPS does not require proof of anything - they are not allowed to because we have a large population of kids who may lack appropriate documentation.

You can use a friend’s address who lives in bounds. Much cheaper than trying to figure out a way to pay tuition! Or just offer to pay someone to use their address.

We have quite a few kids at our ES and MS who do not live in boundary. They use family members’ or friends’ addresses.

Also, once you get into a MS, you can automatically go to the HS that MS feed into.

yeah good luck with that. you need to show two months of utilities and pay stubs with a custodial parent's address (just registered my kid this year). that's some pretty serious fraud you'd be engaging in.

Serious fraud? Show where anyone has ever gotten in trouble for doing this.

Do you read the news? Here's a MD couple who got fined half a million dollars for sending their kids to DC schools.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/md-family-that-sent-kids-to-dc-public-schools-must-pay-more-than-500000-fine/2016/07/28/b7f3656c-54eb-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html?utm_term=.0072068067b0

That is DC schools! It is well known that MCPS does not go after this.

There is a fraud hotline. http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/fraudhotline/
And if you think the Type A parents at already overcrowded W schools aren't going to report someone who is obviously living in Tenleytown, you're mistaken.

+100

If I know that someone is committing residency fraud, I am reporting it.

You can report it all you want, but it is incredibly difficult to prove where people live. The people who I know that do this have their utility bills sent to an in boundary address. But they live out of boundary. There is NO WAY MCPS can prove this. Impossible.

Nonsense. It's not impossible. Other states have done this with surveillance vehicles, and sometimes the parents just admit to it when asked (these are not highly sophisticated crime masterminds). It may not be an MCPS priority, but I predict it will become more of an issue in the future, as schools get so overcrowded and the MCPS planning for new schools continues to lag behind.

Hilarious! MCPS can barely fund enough Teachers. Our K classes have no side this year. I’m confident they will not be hiring surveillance vehicles to track down where Latlo and Larlita live. Especially when Larlo and Larlita’s parents don’t even speak English!

I do not recommend doing this despite people's quick reaction that MOCO won't do anything about it. I do know of a family who was in fact found out and due to that, their daughter had to move out of the school....This is not a W school. We are in a Focus school in upcounty where we are bursting at the seams and both my kids are in portables.

[Anonymous]

OP, I think a long-term benefit of a student going to a school like Wilson, rather than a "W" school is that "if they can make it there, they'll make it anywhere". LOL. Students really have to be self-advocates at a place like Wilson in a way that students at a typical MCPS high school don't have to do. That is a life skill that will be useful throughout the lifespan. (With that said, I'd still prefer my kids go to a MCPS high school than to Wilson--for MANY reasons.)

[Anonymous]

If OP can afford a Wilson feeder, she can afford a "W School." This isn't about cost. It is about laziness.

[Anonymous]

OP here, we cannot afford a W feeder, its not a matter of laziness. DH inherited his childhood home and we cannot afford to sell or move. We don't want to sell and inherit a mortgage, DH and I both work in public sectors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, we cannot afford a W feeder, its not a matter of laziness. DH inherited his childhood home and we cannot afford to sell or move. We don't want to sell and inherit a mortgage, DH and I both work in public sectors.

Well, life is about tradeoffs. There are plenty of parents in apartments in the W school zones who are there because of the quality of the schools.