Janney In-Bound Pk3?

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.

Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.

You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.

Is it true that MoCo schools across western put 28 kids in a classroom? I'm not sure that is true, but just a DCUM rumor.

Some years yes. The threshold for a new class is 28, but if there are late enrollments the classes can bulge to 29 or 30.

And yet their (MoCo's) scores are still better than DC's.

(Oops, less to gloat about now...)

Actually not really. Test scores for MoCo schools across western are about the same, or a little worse, than Ward 3 DCPS.

Only for elementary. It's not like Wilson is competitive. And the class sizes in DC will follow MoCo upwards. Also, the demographics will follow downwards in terms of "exclusivity."

If you want exclusive, you're supposed to pay for private don't you know?

In DC, your child exists as a resource for underserved children and the sooner you learn it the better off you will be.

Wilson is excellent. Don't believe the MoCo hype.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.

Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.

You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.

Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.

A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.

Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.

NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".

My point is that who cares if people "cast judgment" on you? Either you're secure that what you're doing is right for your family and fair for the community, or you're not. And if you are, then why isn't that enough? Why does everyone have to agree with you, too?

Why do you think I want everyone to agree with me? I'm just making an argument about the topic at hand, and it is that you're passing some oddly distorted moral judgment if you think Ward 3 families are somehow less entitled to participate in the lottery for public PK in DC and are somehow acting less fairly to the community than families EOTP doing the same thing. Just calling out your hypocrisy, that's all.

Well, I don't think either of those things, so you're calling out nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.

Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.

You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.

Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.

A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.

Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.

NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".

My point is that who cares if people "cast judgment" on you? Either you're secure that what you're doing is right for your family and fair for the community, or you're not. And if you are, then why isn't that enough? Why does everyone have to agree with you, too?

Why do you think I want everyone to agree with me? I'm just making an argument about the topic at hand, and it is that you're passing some oddly distorted moral judgment if you think Ward 3 families are somehow less entitled to participate in the lottery for public PK in DC and are somehow acting less fairly to the community than families EOTP doing the same thing. Just calling out your hypocrisy, that's all.

Well, I don't think either of those things, so you're calling out nothing.

Good for you, it sounded like you did. There absolutely are people on this board who believe this, which is why PP brought it up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.

Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.

You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.

Is it true that MoCo schools across western put 28 kids in a classroom? I'm not sure that is true, but just a DCUM rumor.

Some years yes. The threshold for a new class is 28, but if there are late enrollments the classes can bulge to 29 or 30.

And yet their (MoCo's) scores are still better than DC's.

(Oops, less to gloat about now...)

Actually not really. Test scores for MoCo schools across western are about the same, or a little worse, than Ward 3 DCPS.

Only for elementary. It's not like Wilson is competitive. And the class sizes in DC will follow MoCo upwards. Also, the demographics will follow downwards in terms of "exclusivity."

If you want exclusive, you're supposed to pay for private don't you know?

In DC, your child exists as a resource for underserved children and the sooner you learn it the better off you will be.

Wilson is excellent. Don't believe the MoCo hype.

Wilson is mediocre.

You're a Baby Boomer trying to sell an overpriced bungalow in upper NW for far more than what it's actually worth in one of the most overpriced realty markets in the nation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.

Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.

You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.

Is it true that MoCo schools across western put 28 kids in a classroom? I'm not sure that is true, but just a DCUM rumor.

Some years yes. The threshold for a new class is 28, but if there are late enrollments the classes can bulge to 29 or 30.

And yet their (MoCo's) scores are still better than DC's.

(Oops, less to gloat about now...)

Actually not really. Test scores for MoCo schools across western are about the same, or a little worse, than Ward 3 DCPS.

Only for elementary. It's not like Wilson is competitive. And the class sizes in DC will follow MoCo upwards. Also, the demographics will follow downwards in terms of "exclusivity."

If you want exclusive, you're supposed to pay for private don't you know?

In DC, your child exists as a resource for underserved children and the sooner you learn it the better off you will be.

Wilson is excellent. Don't believe the MoCo hype.

Wilson is mediocre.

You're a Baby Boomer trying to sell an overpriced bungalow in upper NW for far more than what it's actually worth in one of the most overpriced realty markets in the nation.

Nope. I'm a parent with a very bright child who is doing really well and getting an excellent education. And I don't like bungalows.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.

Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.

You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.

Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.

A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.

Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.

NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".

My point is that who cares if people "cast judgment" on you? Either you're secure that what you're doing is right for your family and fair for the community, or you're not. And if you are, then why isn't that enough? Why does everyone have to agree with you, too?

Why do you think I want everyone to agree with me? I'm just making an argument about the topic at hand, and it is that you're passing some oddly distorted moral judgment if you think Ward 3 families are somehow less entitled to participate in the lottery for public PK in DC and are somehow acting less fairly to the community than families EOTP doing the same thing. Just calling out your hypocrisy, that's all.

Well, I don't think either of those things, so you're calling out nothing.

Good for you, it sounded like you did. There absolutely are people on this board who believe this, which is why PP brought it up.

I lived in the Janney boundaries and paid for private preschool. I think it is terrible when high income families take limited resources that allows lower income kids an advantage. So yes, I think less of you. Free PK should be for modest or low income kids.

[Anonymous]

Back to the original intent of my post. I still haven't gotten an answer. Can someone please send me the link to a resource that shows how many in-boundary families got into PK4 at Janney this year? Please? I know this exists I just can't find it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.

Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.

You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.

Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.

A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.

Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.

NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".

My point is that who cares if people "cast judgment" on you? Either you're secure that what you're doing is right for your family and fair for the community, or you're not. And if you are, then why isn't that enough? Why does everyone have to agree with you, too?

Why do you think I want everyone to agree with me? I'm just making an argument about the topic at hand, and it is that you're passing some oddly distorted moral judgment if you think Ward 3 families are somehow less entitled to participate in the lottery for public PK in DC and are somehow acting less fairly to the community than families EOTP doing the same thing. Just calling out your hypocrisy, that's all.

Well, I don't think either of those things, so you're calling out nothing.

Good for you, it sounded like you did. There absolutely are people on this board who believe this, which is why PP brought it up.

I lived in the Janney boundaries and paid for private preschool. I think it is terrible when high income families take limited resources that allows lower income kids an advantage. So yes, I think less of you. Free PK should be for modest or low income kids.

There are plenty of high income families (much higher than us, we make 150K) EOTP who use free Pre-K, do you think less of them, too? Why focus your judgment on people in Ward 3? What you should advocate for is means tested access, no access based on geography. Although I'm not sure excluding high SES kids from the Pre-K programs would actually help the demographics you want to help.

[Anonymous]

*not access based on geography

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original intent of my post. I still haven't gotten an answer. Can someone please send me the link to a resource that shows how many in-boundary families got into PK4 at Janney this year? Please? I know this exists I just can't find it.

Here you go:

https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original intent of my post. I still haven't gotten an answer. Can someone please send me the link to a resource that shows how many in-boundary families got into PK4 at Janney this year? Please? I know this exists I just can't find it.

You can squint and try to piece together some data, but the only way to get up to the minute accurate data is from the principal.

The DCPS initial lottery Janney results show 34 IB students wait listed for PK 4 (doesn't include anyone who moved IB between the lottery and first day of school) https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

MSDC shows 7 offers made to people on the Janney PK4 WL made by mid-August https://public.tableau.com/profile/aaron2446#!/vizhome/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData/MSDCPublicDisplay

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine what it must be like to have preK for your 3-year-old.

Still, we can't complain. We're better off than the MoCo schools across Western Avenue who pack 28 kids into a classroom and don't have preK, period.

You still have preK for your kid, just not at Janney. You choose to not use it.

Hmm. Except if you *do* use it, people will slam you for taking slots that they wanted. So you can have PK3, but only in schools that few other people want to use.

A couple anonymous posts on DCUM are gonna scare you off? Please.

Right? If you're going to do it, presumably you're okay with the effects it might have on other families. So why would you care that people criticize you? You can't have it both ways. People always want to be able to do whatever they want and not have anyone disagree, but that's just not how life works.

NP. Would you cast the same judgment on an EOTP family who takes a PK spot at a school and keeps playing the lottery to trade up? Because that's what happens all the time all over the city and is evidence that Ward 3 families who use EOTP PK and then move on to their IB have no more of a negative effect on other families than those who keep playing the lottery to optimize their school choice. Not to mention that there are people at desirable EOTP schools, such as Brent or Shepherd, who may not get into their IB PK and do the same thing before entering their neighborhood school. But somehow kids from WOTP get singled out as "squatters".

My point is that who cares if people "cast judgment" on you? Either you're secure that what you're doing is right for your family and fair for the community, or you're not. And if you are, then why isn't that enough? Why does everyone have to agree with you, too?

Why do you think I want everyone to agree with me? I'm just making an argument about the topic at hand, and it is that you're passing some oddly distorted moral judgment if you think Ward 3 families are somehow less entitled to participate in the lottery for public PK in DC and are somehow acting less fairly to the community than families EOTP doing the same thing. Just calling out your hypocrisy, that's all.

Well, I don't think either of those things, so you're calling out nothing.

Good for you, it sounded like you did. There absolutely are people on this board who believe this, which is why PP brought it up.

I lived in the Janney boundaries and paid for private preschool. I think it is terrible when high income families take limited resources that allows lower income kids an advantage. So yes, I think less of you. Free PK should be for modest or low income kids.

There are plenty of high income families (much higher than us, we make 150K) EOTP who use free Pre-K, do you think less of them, too? Why focus your judgment on people in Ward 3? What you should advocate for is means tested access, no access based on geography. Although I'm not sure excluding high SES kids from the Pre-K programs would actually help the demographics you want to help.

Yes, high income families should not take resources from lower income families regardless of neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

maybe Janney PTA could fund its own PK3 staff and have them in the building.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the original intent of my post. I still haven't gotten an answer. Can someone please send me the link to a resource that shows how many in-boundary families got into PK4 at Janney this year? Please? I know this exists I just can't find it.

Here you go:

https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

THANK YOU!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original intent of my post. I still haven't gotten an answer. Can someone please send me the link to a resource that shows how many in-boundary families got into PK4 at Janney this year? Please? I know this exists I just can't find it.

You can squint and try to piece together some data, but the only way to get up to the minute accurate data is from the principal.

The DCPS initial lottery Janney results show 34 IB students wait listed for PK 4 (doesn't include anyone who moved IB between the lottery and first day of school) https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

MSDC shows 7 offers made to people on the Janney PK4 WL made by mid-August https://public.tableau.com/profile/aaron2446#!/vizhome/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData/MSDCPublicDisplay

And thank you too!