Oyster- Adams in US News...thoughts?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can set up all the supposed dual immersion public school programs you want (charter of DCPS) to keep affluent families happy. As the article points out, its attracting enough low-income native speakers to ensure successful immersion that's the trick.

Yeah, the whole "low income Latino" thing in the article made me kinda wonder if the author actually talked to any Latino students/parents at Oyster. Sure there are some low income Latino families, but there are a LOT of professionals, embassy staff, NGO employees.

Exactly! Of course there are low income Latino families at Oyster, but they are definitely in the minority. Most of my children's Latino friends at Oyster have very well educated parents who work at the World Bank, IMF, various embassies, etc. There are also several Latino Oyster parents who held positions in President Obama's administration (including a cabinet level position); and one student is the child of a member of the US Congress.

Well aren't you FANCY!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oyster wouldn't be Oyster if it wasn't in Woodley Park. Fact.

Adams rides on the coat tails of Oyster.

You're still getting your information from old gossip about Adams' students left over from the 2007 merger. As someone pointed out up thread, Adams is now retaining over 90% of the SAME Oyster students whose coattails you say they're riding. So I guess they're riding their own coattails, right? Oyster also sends a disproportionate number of its graduates to Walls every year.

Affluent children leave in kinder, first, second...not just in fifth grade, dear.
3rd Grade PARCC scores in ELA and Math (54% and 74%, passing or exceeding)
7th grade PARCC scores: 45% and 40% (8th grade data not available)

What a dip! Maybe it's the lead pipes over at the Adams building.

You and Canizales can spin this however you guys like- please continue to blame gossip and I will just stick with the data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oyster wouldn't be Oyster if it wasn't in Woodley Park. Fact.

Adams rides on the coat tails of Oyster.

You're still getting your information from old gossip about Adams' students left over from the 2007 merger. As someone pointed out up thread, Adams is now retaining over 90% of the SAME Oyster students whose coattails you say they're riding. So I guess they're riding their own coattails, right? Oyster also sends a disproportionate number of its graduates to Walls every year.

Affluent children leave in kinder, first, second...not just in fifth grade, dear.
3rd Grade PARCC scores in ELA and Math (54% and 74%, passing or exceeding)
7th grade PARCC scores: 45% and 40% (8th grade data not available)

What a dip! Maybe it's the lead pipes over at the Adams building.

You and Canizales can spin this however you guys like- please continue to blame gossip and I will just stick with the data.

Adams was only retaining around half of its students (in 4th through 6th grades) before Deal was eliminated as a feeder option. Deal hasn't been an option for only 3 years. Watch those Adams PARCC scores over the next few years as those affluent retained students move up. No spin necessary, dear.

Btw, Oyster's retention in the early grades (K through 3rd is even higher than Adams--mid 90s). You should stick to posting about things you actually know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can set up all the supposed dual immersion public school programs you want (charter of DCPS) to keep affluent families happy. As the article points out, its attracting enough low-income native speakers to ensure successful immersion that's the trick.

Yeah, the whole "low income Latino" thing in the article made me kinda wonder if the author actually talked to any Latino students/parents at Oyster. Sure there are some low income Latino families, but there are a LOT of professionals, embassy staff, NGO employees.

Exactly! Of course there are low income Latino families at Oyster, but they are definitely in the minority. Most of my children's Latino friends at Oyster have very well educated parents who work at the World Bank, IMF, various embassies, etc. There are also several Latino Oyster parents who held positions in President Obama's administration (including a cabinet level position); and one student is the child of a member of the US Congress.

Well aren't you FANCY!?

Yes.
And the women you perceive to be the nannies are actual moms at the school. Say hi one day. Maybe coordinate a play date for your children. I know this means you won't be able to socialize with people above YOU. But still. You will feel good about yourself and can brag to your friends how you once went went to Georgia Avenue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oyster wouldn't be Oyster if it wasn't in Woodley Park. Fact.

Adams rides on the coat tails of Oyster.

You're still getting your information from old gossip about Adams' students left over from the 2007 merger. As someone pointed out up thread, Adams is now retaining over 90% of the SAME Oyster students whose coattails you say they're riding. So I guess they're riding their own coattails, right? Oyster also sends a disproportionate number of its graduates to Walls every year.

Affluent children leave in kinder, first, second...not just in fifth grade, dear.
3rd Grade PARCC scores in ELA and Math (54% and 74%, passing or exceeding)
7th grade PARCC scores: 45% and 40% (8th grade data not available)

What a dip! Maybe it's the lead pipes over at the Adams building.

You and Canizales can spin this however you guys like- please continue to blame gossip and I will just stick with the data.

Adams was only retaining around half of its students (in 4th through 6th grades) before Deal was eliminated as a feeder option. Deal hasn't been an option for only 3 years. Watch those Adams PARCC scores over the next few years as those affluent retained students move up. No spin necessary, dear.

Btw, Oyster's retention in the early grades (K through 3rd is even higher than Adams--mid 90s). You should stick to posting about things you actually know.

Do you need the 5th grade and the 6th grade data, too?
You can stick to your prediction and I will stick with the data, hun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oyster wouldn't be Oyster if it wasn't in Woodley Park. Fact.

Adams rides on the coat tails of Oyster.

You're still getting your information from old gossip about Adams' students left over from the 2007 merger. As someone pointed out up thread, Adams is now retaining over 90% of the SAME Oyster students whose coattails you say they're riding. So I guess they're riding their own coattails, right? Oyster also sends a disproportionate number of its graduates to Walls every year.

Affluent children leave in kinder, first, second...not just in fifth grade, dear.
3rd Grade PARCC scores in ELA and Math (54% and 74%, passing or exceeding)
7th grade PARCC scores: 45% and 40% (8th grade data not available)

What a dip! Maybe it's the lead pipes over at the Adams building.

You and Canizales can spin this however you guys like- please continue to blame gossip and I will just stick with the data.

Adams was only retaining around half of its students (in 4th through 6th grades) before Deal was eliminated as a feeder option. Deal hasn't been an option for only 3 years. Watch those Adams PARCC scores over the next few years as those affluent retained students move up. No spin necessary, dear.

Btw, Oyster's retention in the early grades (K through 3rd is even higher than Adams--mid 90s). You should stick to posting about things you actually know.

Do you need the 5th grade and the 6th grade data, too?
You can stick to your prediction and I will stick with the data, hun.

Your "data" is useless to refute my point. When Deal was eliminated as an option, Oyster's 3rd graders at the time are only entering 5th grade this fall. We don't have their 7th grade test scores, hun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can set up all the supposed dual immersion public school programs you want (charter of DCPS) to keep affluent families happy. As the article points out, its attracting enough low-income native speakers to ensure successful immersion that's the trick.

Yeah, the whole "low income Latino" thing in the article made me kinda wonder if the author actually talked to any Latino students/parents at Oyster. Sure there are some low income Latino families, but there are a LOT of professionals, embassy staff, NGO employees.

Exactly! Of course there are low income Latino families at Oyster, but they are definitely in the minority. Most of my children's Latino friends at Oyster have very well educated parents who work at the World Bank, IMF, various embassies, etc. There are also several Latino Oyster parents who held positions in President Obama's administration (including a cabinet level position); and one student is the child of a member of the US Congress.

Well aren't you FANCY!?

Yes.
And the women you perceive to be the nannies are actual moms at the school. Say hi one day. Maybe coordinate a play date for your children. I know this means you won't be able to socialize with people above YOU. But still. You will feel good about yourself and can brag to your friends how you once went went to Georgia Avenue.

Oh, stop it!

[Anonymous]

Wow. We are happy at Oyster- having left a charter immersion school. The difference for DC/family has been in how the administration collaborates with families, pulling in resources as needed. (Reading specialists, counselor, psychologist on staff.) A common thread amongst families like ours is that that dialogue was missing/not as prevalent at LAMB and MV.

Yes, we live in a smaller space, but because we want to attend. Friends cut across those inbounds- and those who lotteries in (often Spanish speakers or with older siblings.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oyster wouldn't be Oyster if it wasn't in Woodley Park. Fact.

Adams rides on the coat tails of Oyster.

You're still getting your information from old gossip about Adams' students left over from the 2007 merger. As someone pointed out up thread, Adams is now retaining over 90% of the SAME Oyster students whose coattails you say they're riding. So I guess they're riding their own coattails, right? Oyster also sends a disproportionate number of its graduates to Walls every year.

Affluent children leave in kinder, first, second...not just in fifth grade, dear.
3rd Grade PARCC scores in ELA and Math (54% and 74%, passing or exceeding)
7th grade PARCC scores: 45% and 40% (8th grade data not available)

What a dip! Maybe it's the lead pipes over at the Adams building.

You and Canizales can spin this however you guys like- please continue to blame gossip and I will just stick with the data.

Adams was only retaining around half of its students (in 4th through 6th grades) before Deal was eliminated as a feeder option. Deal hasn't been an option for only 3 years. Watch those Adams PARCC scores over the next few years as those affluent retained students move up. No spin necessary, dear.

Btw, Oyster's retention in the early grades (K through 3rd is even higher than Adams--mid 90s). You should stick to posting about things you actually know.

Do you need the 5th grade and the 6th grade data, too?
You can stick to your prediction and I will stick with the data, hun.

Your "data" is useless to refute my point. When Deal was eliminated as an option, Oyster's 3rd graders at the time are only entering 5th grade this fall. We don't have their 7th grade test scores, hun.

That's fine. But 4th grade data is quite horrid if you ask me. But who needs math anyway, hun?
Again, I will stick to data. And bravo- more "affluent" families staying according to you (?) eliminating the chance for the students who NEED and DESERVE to be there. Nice!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. We are happy at Oyster- having left a charter immersion school. The difference for DC/family has been in how the administration collaborates with families, pulling in resources as needed. (Reading specialists, counselor, psychologist on staff.) A common thread amongst families like ours is that that dialogue was missing/not as prevalent at LAMB and MV.

Yes, we live in a smaller space, but because we want to attend. Friends cut across those inbounds- and those who lotteries in (often Spanish speakers or with older siblings.)

I think it's great you are well received by admin. However, admin has been known to push low income, SPED kids out, including this past school year, especially at the Oyster campus.. (And no to this threads resident banshee, this is not about THE sped cases of the past; gossip; and how life for Oyster began in 2007)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oyster wouldn't be Oyster if it wasn't in Woodley Park. Fact.

Adams rides on the coat tails of Oyster.

You're still getting your information from old gossip about Adams' students left over from the 2007 merger. As someone pointed out up thread, Adams is now retaining over 90% of the SAME Oyster students whose coattails you say they're riding. So I guess they're riding their own coattails, right? Oyster also sends a disproportionate number of its graduates to Walls every year.

Affluent children leave in kinder, first, second...not just in fifth grade, dear.
3rd Grade PARCC scores in ELA and Math (54% and 74%, passing or exceeding)
7th grade PARCC scores: 45% and 40% (8th grade data not available)

What a dip! Maybe it's the lead pipes over at the Adams building.

You and Canizales can spin this however you guys like- please continue to blame gossip and I will just stick with the data.

Adams was only retaining around half of its students (in 4th through 6th grades) before Deal was eliminated as a feeder option. Deal hasn't been an option for only 3 years. Watch those Adams PARCC scores over the next few years as those affluent retained students move up. No spin necessary, dear.

Btw, Oyster's retention in the early grades (K through 3rd is even higher than Adams--mid 90s). You should stick to posting about things you actually know.

Do you need the 5th grade and the 6th grade data, too?
You can stick to your prediction and I will stick with the data, hun.

Your "data" is useless to refute my point. When Deal was eliminated as an option, Oyster's 3rd graders at the time are only entering 5th grade this fall. We don't have their 7th grade test scores, hun.

That's fine. But 4th grade data is quite horrid if you ask me. But who needs math anyway, hun?
Again, I will stick to data. And bravo- more "affluent" families staying according to you (?) eliminating the chance for the students who NEED and DESERVE to be there. Nice!

But no one asked you. If you think Oyster's test scores in the upper grades are "horrid," good luck finding a language immersion school in DC with better scores (hint: you won't). Bye, you bitter troll. Lol!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. We are happy at Oyster- having left a charter immersion school. The difference for DC/family has been in how the administration collaborates with families, pulling in resources as needed. (Reading specialists, counselor, psychologist on staff.) A common thread amongst families like ours is that that dialogue was missing/not as prevalent at LAMB and MV.

Yes, we live in a smaller space, but because we want to attend. Friends cut across those inbounds- and those who lotteries in (often Spanish speakers or with older siblings.)

I think it's great you are well received by admin. However, admin has been known to push low income, SPED kids out, including this past school year, especially at the Oyster campus.. (And no to this threads resident banshee, this is not about THE sped cases of the past; gossip; and how life for Oyster began in 2007)

Is that what happened to your low income SPED kid? If not, what is the basis for making this slanderous claim?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. We are happy at Oyster- having left a charter immersion school. The difference for DC/family has been in how the administration collaborates with families, pulling in resources as needed. (Reading specialists, counselor, psychologist on staff.) A common thread amongst families like ours is that that dialogue was missing/not as prevalent at LAMB and MV.

Yes, we live in a smaller space, but because we want to attend. Friends cut across those inbounds- and those who lotteries in (often Spanish speakers or with older siblings.)

I think it's great you are well received by admin. However, admin has been known to push low income, SPED kids out, including this past school year, especially at the Oyster campus.. (And no to this threads resident banshee, this is not about THE sped cases of the past; gossip; and how life for Oyster began in 2007)

Is that what happened to your low income SPED kid? If not, what is the basis for making this slanderous claim?

No it wasn't my kid. My colleague is an advocate for illegal immigrants who are often intimidated by school admin- for whatever reasons. The few who did confide him chose not to move forward or speak up out of fear. I don't think it's an Oyster problem- it's prevalanet everywhere,
Especially in communities where people dont have a voice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can set up all the supposed dual immersion public school programs you want (charter of DCPS) to keep affluent families happy. As the article points out, its attracting enough low-income native speakers to ensure successful immersion that's the trick.

DCPS has 6 other immersion programs: Bancroft, Powell, Marie Reed, Bruce Monroe, Tyler SI, and Cleveland. I think most are dual immersion, although I think Bancroft is full Spanish immersion. The programs with which I am familiar all have quite a few kids who are native speakers of Spanish. Most of those schools run dual language lotteries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. We are happy at Oyster- having left a charter immersion school. The difference for DC/family has been in how the administration collaborates with families, pulling in resources as needed. (Reading specialists, counselor, psychologist on staff.) A common thread amongst families like ours is that that dialogue was missing/not as prevalent at LAMB and MV.

Yes, we live in a smaller space, but because we want to attend. Friends cut across those inbounds- and those who lotteries in (often Spanish speakers or with older siblings.)

This is untrue in reference to LAMB. Let's stick to facts and not lies.