Rejected from Chicago, Northwestern, Williams, Vanderbilt...

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+1 Only anecdotal but that's what happened in DC's class for RD. The Ivies seem to take a small % based on academic strength and a larger group that fills their various special interests. Take heart, it's not over. The workload at a predominate number of the schools she got rejected from is markedly high. It could well be that she will end up very happy where she lands.

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If she has her heart set on going to one of these schools she will need to do something remarkable during her gap year......not just work a 9-5 job. It will be an interesting opportunity to strengthen her application for next year.

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If she did not get into Vandy - she is not getting into Duke and the Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:If she did not get into Vandy - she is not getting into Duke and the Ivies.

Agreed. If she didn't get into either Vandy or Northwestern, she's not getting into any of the Ivies.

Op. Agree that this is a great life lesson. That said, it's not the end of the world. Do a gap year or go to a state school, and reapply.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy Day isn't going to go so well for my DD, is it? She didn't apply to any safeties. Only Ivies and Duke remain.

Wow op... DC didn't know about importance of safeties?

She did. Just refused to submit an app to a place she'd never attend.

Looks like princess will spend a year at home.

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Anonymous wrote:If she did not get into Vandy - she is not getting into Duke and the Ivies.

I know a young man who was rejected from Vandy and is currently at Dartmouth.

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Anonymous wrote:If she did not get into Vandy - she is not getting into Duke and the Ivies.

I know a young man who was rejected from Vandy and is currently at Dartmouth.

Yes, it actually happens reasonably frequently. Non-ivy schools in the 10-25 range are very conscious of their yield numbers. Many of them accept most of their class through ED, so there are relatively few spots available in RD compared to the Ivies, and since they don't want to lose kids to the ivies, they often will reject kids with high stats and great ECs in favor of less impressive (on paper) students who have shown a lot of interest.

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Just being honest, if she's white or Asian, it's not happening. But if she's protected class, it really just depends on what holes, if any, an elite needs to plug.

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Anonymous wrote:If she did not get into Vandy - she is not getting into Duke and the Ivies.

I know a young man who was rejected from Vandy and is currently at Dartmouth.

Yes, it actually happens reasonably frequently. Non-ivy schools in the 10-25 range are very conscious of their yield numbers. Many of them accept most of their class through ED, so there are relatively few spots available in RD compared to the Ivies, and since they don't want to lose kids to the ivies, they often will reject kids with high stats and great ECs in favor of less impressive (on paper) students who have shown a lot of interest.

Someone is making shit up again. The same shit, but shit nonetheless.

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What about UVA Wise? It's a small school in Appalachia, but a pretty campus. Go there, transfer to UVA.

This is a hard lesson for an 18 year old to learn. Help her through it. There are non competitive schools where she will get a fine education and have a lot of fun.

It looks like she ants to go away? I don't know any in the mid west, but think in Maryland of schools like Mt St Mary's, or Hood, for example. Gettysburg? Maybe those are too small. A mid-size lower competitive school in the midwest. I'd start searching.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If she did not get into Vandy - she is not getting into Duke and the Ivies.

I know a young man who was rejected from Vandy and is currently at Dartmouth.

Yes, it actually happens reasonably frequently. Non-ivy schools in the 10-25 range are very conscious of their yield numbers. Many of them accept most of their class through ED, so there are relatively few spots available in RD compared to the Ivies, and since they don't want to lose kids to the ivies, they often will reject kids with high stats and great ECs in favor of less impressive (on paper) students who have shown a lot of interest.

Someone is making shit up again. The same shit, but shit nonetheless.

http://saraharberson.com/the-real-reasons-why-colleges-waitlist-students/
Maybe not as good a parallel because this student wasn't waitlisted, but PP isn't entirely wrong.

[Anonymous]

Either this is a troll or this should be a good life lesson to OP daughter that she's just a small fish and need to learn to live with a chip on her shoulder sometimes by sucking it up and proving people wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:If she did not get into Vandy - she is not getting into Duke and the Ivies.

Agreed. If she didn't get into either Vandy or Northwestern, she's not getting into any of the Ivies.

Op. Agree that this is a great life lesson. That said, it's not the end of the world. Do a gap year or go to a state school, and reapply.

Wrong. DS got rejected at Northwestern and waitlisted at Vanderbilt and got a likely letter from an Ivy with admissions into a very select program. I know several other kids who were rejected from these schools and got into higher ranked schools. Vandy and Northwestern yield protect, but in reality, so much of this is random as to who gets in and who doesn't. There is no magic formula that if you get into x school you will get in to y and z. Heck, I know kids who got into Havard and were rejected by schools like Vanderbilt and Duke.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If she did not get into Vandy - she is not getting into Duke and the Ivies.

I know a young man who was rejected from Vandy and is currently at Dartmouth.

Yes, it actually happens reasonably frequently. Non-ivy schools in the 10-25 range are very conscious of their yield numbers. Many of them accept most of their class through ED, so there are relatively few spots available in RD compared to the Ivies, and since they don't want to lose kids to the ivies, they often will reject kids with high stats and great ECs in favor of less impressive (on paper) students who have shown a lot of interest.

Someone is making shit up again. The same shit, but shit nonetheless.

http://saraharberson.com/the-real-reasons-why-colleges-waitlist-students/
Maybe not as good a parallel because this student wasn't waitlisted, but PP isn't entirely wrong.

Thanks. It's possible I'm not correct about all the reasons why it happens, but I know lots and lots of kids who were accepted at an ivy but shut out by schools in the 10-20 range. I'm guessing that anyone who would find this surprising has not had a child go through the admissions process recently.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If she did not get into Vandy - she is not getting into Duke and the Ivies.

I know a young man who was rejected from Vandy and is currently at Dartmouth.

Yes, it actually happens reasonably frequently. Non-ivy schools in the 10-25 range are very conscious of their yield numbers. Many of them accept most of their class through ED, so there are relatively few spots available in RD compared to the Ivies, and since they don't want to lose kids to the ivies, they often will reject kids with high stats and great ECs in favor of less impressive (on paper) students who have shown a lot of interest.

Someone is making shit up again. The same shit, but shit nonetheless.

http://saraharberson.com/the-real-reasons-why-colleges-waitlist-students/
Maybe not as good a parallel because this student wasn't waitlisted, but PP isn't entirely wrong.

This article is excellent and dovetails what we were told by our college consultant when my son was applying.