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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More and more jurisdictions are adding universal pre k, because the research is promising. I don't think we'll be moving backwarda

It's also been the single biggest positive influence to get high ses families into public schools. The PK is the gateway and hen they get in and realize it's not so bad and more and more stay each year. The growing cohort of under five predomi try come from higher SES families and I wonder if DCPS has given that any thought about the change in demands and expectations from the parents. Hats going to be a very thought transition for some DCPS central
Office who make living on failing kids.

What's your source for that data PP? I've not seen anything that breaks out SES of children age 0-4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fastest-growing area of the city for under-5 is Brightwood and upper Georgia Ave. Opening the new middle school at Coolidge in 2019 will open up seats at four education campuses for more ECE.

Good point. Eliminating all the ECs will be very helpful. If you ask me, that's plenty planning for now. I don't want to have empty schools again. Would rather grow slowly. Pk3 is not a right.

The issue is the cat is already out of the bag. Our neighborhood tipped a few years back. One year everyone got in, the next there was an IB WL of over 30.

I'd be in favor of a needs based PS 3 if that meant most kids could get in for PK4. I don't think DCPS understands the damage it is doing to its brand by not being proactive about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More and more jurisdictions are adding universal pre k, because the research is promising. I don't think we'll be moving backwarda

Still very few that have universal pk and even then it's pk4

Yes. "In 2014, of the 41 states with state-funded pre-K programs (a figure which included the District of Columbia), only nine served more than half of all 4-year-olds in the state, and 11 served less than 10 percent. Only three states – Florida, Georgia and Oklahoma – truly have universal pre-K programs."

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/knowledge-bank/2015/06/26/setting-the-record-straight-on-state-pre-k-programs

Yes, only 3 states have universal pk. And again that's not pk3, it's PK4. That's what I was saying. Why post this article?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More and more jurisdictions are adding universal pre k, because the research is promising. I don't think we'll be moving backwarda

It's also been the single biggest positive influence to get high ses families into public schools. The PK is the gateway and hen they get in and realize it's not so bad and more and more stay each year. The growing cohort of under five predomi try come from higher SES families and I wonder if DCPS has given that any thought about the change in demands and expectations from the parents. Hats going to be a very thought transition for some DCPS central
Office who make living on failing kids.

What's your source for that data PP? I've not seen anything that breaks out SES of children age 0-4.

well for one thing, the fasted growth in population is the 24-25 high income, highly educated person. these are the folks who will be forming families this is expected for the next 15 years. the current boom in families in the petworth and Brightwood is also from higher income famiilies buying in more "affordable" areas since they are priced out of West of the Park and Cap Hill.

[Anonymous]

Dc PK is waaaay over rated. I would prefer the benefits be directed towards the people who most need subsidized care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fastest-growing area of the city for under-5 is Brightwood and upper Georgia Ave. Opening the new middle school at Coolidge in 2019 will open up seats at four education campuses for more ECE.

Good point. Eliminating all the ECs will be very helpful. If you ask me, that's plenty planning for now. I don't want to have empty schools again. Would rather grow slowly. Pk3 is not a right.

The issue is the cat is already out of the bag. Our neighborhood tipped a few years back. One year everyone got in, the next there was an IB WL of over 30.

I'd be in favor of a needs based PS 3 if that meant most kids could get in for PK4. I don't think DCPS understands the damage it is doing to its brand by not being proactive about this.

It's a public school system, not a "brand."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More and more jurisdictions are adding universal pre k, because the research is promising. I don't think we'll be moving backwarda

It's also been the single biggest positive influence to get high ses families into public schools. The PK is the gateway and hen they get in and realize it's not so bad and more and more stay each year. The growing cohort of under five predomi try come from higher SES families and I wonder if DCPS has given that any thought about the change in demands and expectations from the parents. Hats going to be a very thought transition for some DCPS central
Office who make living on failing kids.

What's your source for that data PP? I've not seen anything that breaks out SES of children age 0-4.

well for one thing, the fasted growth in population is the 24-25 high income, highly educated person. these are the folks who will be forming families this is expected for the next 15 years. the current boom in families in the petworth and Brightwood is also from higher income famiilies buying in more "affordable" areas since they are priced out of West of the Park and Cap Hill.

But there is equally high growth in awards 7 and 8. More young kids overall but the ratio of low to high SES is not changing as quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fastest-growing area of the city for under-5 is Brightwood and upper Georgia Ave. Opening the new middle school at Coolidge in 2019 will open up seats at four education campuses for more ECE.

Good point. Eliminating all the ECs will be very helpful. If you ask me, that's plenty planning for now. I don't want to have empty schools again. Would rather grow slowly. Pk3 is not a right.

The issue is the cat is already out of the bag. Our neighborhood tipped a few years back. One year everyone got in, the next there was an IB WL of over 30.

I'd be in favor of a needs based PS 3 if that meant most kids could get in for PK4. I don't think DCPS understands the damage it is doing to its brand by not being proactive about this.

It's a public school system, not a "brand."

I respectfully disagree. DC is an education market place. DCPS is up against national brands like BASIS and KIPP and even local brands like Fairfax and Montgomery Counties. The best way to get people into DCPS middle and high schools is getting them into their neighborhood ESs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fastest-growing area of the city for under-5 is Brightwood and upper Georgia Ave. Opening the new middle school at Coolidge in 2019 will open up seats at four education campuses for more ECE.

Good point. Eliminating all the ECs will be very helpful. If you ask me, that's plenty planning for now. I don't want to have empty schools again. Would rather grow slowly. Pk3 is not a right.

The issue is the cat is already out of the bag. Our neighborhood tipped a few years back. One year everyone got in, the next there was an IB WL of over 30.

I'd be in favor of a needs based PS 3 if that meant most kids could get in for PK4. I don't think DCPS understands the damage it is doing to its brand by not being proactive about this.

It's a public school system, not a "brand."

I respectfully disagree. DC is an education market place. DCPS is up against national brands like BASIS and KIPP and even local brands like Fairfax and Montgomery Counties. The best way to get people into DCPS middle and high schools is getting them into their neighborhood ESs.

[Anonymous]

Someone once proposed that the closed school in Ft. Lincoln be transformed into an early childhood center. That seems like a decent idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone once proposed that the closed school in Ft. Lincoln be transformed into an early childhood center. That seems like a decent idea.

Mary Cheh has been saying the old Hardy School would be a good EC center. At least out of one side of her mouth. She hasn't stopped cashing checks from the Lab School lobbyists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More and more jurisdictions are adding universal pre k, because the research is promising. I don't think we'll be moving backwarda

It's also been the single biggest positive influence to get high ses families into public schools. The PK is the gateway and hen they get in and realize it's not so bad and more and more stay each year. The growing cohort of under five predomi try come from higher SES families and I wonder if DCPS has given that any thought about the change in demands and expectations from the parents. Hats going to be a very thought transition for some DCPS central
Office who make living on failing kids.

What's your source for that data PP? I've not seen anything that breaks out SES of children age 0-4.

well for one thing, the fasted growth in population is the 24-25 high income, highly educated person. these are the folks who will be forming families this is expected for the next 15 years. the current boom in families in the petworth and Brightwood is also from higher income famiilies buying in more "affordable" areas since they are priced out of West of the Park and Cap Hill.

But there is equally high growth in awards 7 and 8. More young kids overall but the ratio of low to high SES is not changing as quickly.

At this time, ward 7 and 8 are starting to gentrify so in another 10 years, whats left of the "affordable" housing stock will be seriously diminished. the growth in those areas is likely to come from middle class families priced out of there neighborhoods who "discover" east of the river and the housing stock. Its interesting to me how all the charter applications make a point about wanting to primarily serve very low income and disadvantage children. I think thats primarily so they will get approved but in 10-15 years, the larger cohort and certainly fastest growing group of under 5s will be quite the opposite. So does that mean all the charters will fight over those kids? its a weird dynamic and driven mainly by corporate entities that rn charters. And I support charters but its clear this is about getting approved by the Board more than anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone once proposed that the closed school in Ft. Lincoln be transformed into an early childhood center. That seems like a decent idea.

Mary Cheh has been saying the old Hardy School would be a good EC center. At least out of one side of her mouth. She hasn't stopped cashing checks from the Lab School lobbyists.

I was going to ask you when she said that until I read your second sentence. My understanding is she is a leader of the charge to give a sweetheart 50 year lease to the Lab School on the old Hardy building.