CCL is it a cluster?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Im annoyed at the ccl tournament in Fredericksburg this weekend. Most teams are from the DC area. Cant we just play near by?

is that the CCL scrimmage fest ? There is something like 120 teams playing over two days, what other club has that kind of field space to dedicate to U9 and U10 scrimmages ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Im annoyed at the ccl tournament in Fredericksburg this weekend. Most teams are from the DC area. Cant we just play near by?

At least you have Memorial Day weekend free, maybe??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Im annoyed at the ccl tournament in Fredericksburg this weekend. Most teams are from the DC area. Cant we just play near by?

At least you have Memorial Day weekend free, maybe??

Nope. Back to back tournament weekends--just like in March.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im annoyed at the ccl tournament in Fredericksburg this weekend. Most teams are from the DC area. Cant we just play near by?

is that the CCL scrimmage fest ? There is something like 120 teams playing over two days, what other club has that kind of field space to dedicate to U9 and U10 scrimmages ?

In the scrimmagefest? There are only about 8 teams in each age group--U9 and U10-boys and girls. That's around 32. Where are you getting 120?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It attracts the same kind of clubs and people, IMO.

I find Loudoun, Arlington, McLean very similar. Impersonal. Factory. Nepotism. Top-down organizations that cater to the loudest mouths and biggest spenders. They tend to just select athletes--big, fast, ball-booters. None of them play beautiful soccer or attempt possession. I don't think any of them are great at developing young players. Poor Braddock Road was in there and these people would gloat and make fun of the big wins they had over them at the younger age groups.

My beef isn't necessarily the league per se. It's that the league claims to be development, but it was really for coach convenience.

And any league game 3-4 hour drive is ridiculous.

I totally disagree re-McLean. Smaller club comparatively and have found them to have a very personal approach and focus on technical aspects (coach does not allow punting from goalie as example). Could not be happier with the club and I have been at a few due to moves. Lots of small kids on top teams based on technical/foot skills. So no-not a cluster. And Ccl has been great for our family. Good competition but dont have to waste the whole weekend and drag siblings on road trip for 2 games when we can knock out two games locally and still have the rest of the weekend for other things... just my two cents

Do you have sons or daughters? ECNL may be ok, but the younger girls have big problems with development, infighting, and a technical Director that can't control coaches. Girls are leaving.

[Anonymous]

^older girls are leaving, too. Lots of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^older girls are leaving, too. Lots of them.

True, McLean was stupid to have late tryouts this year. They're going to be surprised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im annoyed at the ccl tournament in Fredericksburg this weekend. Most teams are from the DC area. Cant we just play near by?

is that the CCL scrimmage fest ? There is something like 120 teams playing over two days, what other club has that kind of field space to dedicate to U9 and U10 scrimmages ?

In the scrimmagefest? There are only about 8 teams in each age group--U9 and U10-boys and girls. That's around 32. Where are you getting 120?

on the CCL website under schedule>scrimmage fest. Look at the schedules posted it lists all the teams for each age group, by my count it's 62 teams for U9 and 66 teams for U10 across two divisions boys and girls. That is why they try to get FFC to host it, it's the only club with 7 fields at one site they own.

http://www.clubchampionsleague.com/scrimmagefest/

http://www.clubchampionsleague.com/wp-content/uploads/CCL-ScrimmageFest-powered-by-SKLZ-May-2017-3.0-10s-Schedule.pdf

http://www.clubchampionsleague.com/wp-content/uploads/CCL-ScrimmageFest-powered-by-SKLZ-May-2017-3.0-9s-Schedule.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It attracts the same kind of clubs and people, IMO.

I find Loudoun, Arlington, McLean very similar. Impersonal. Factory. Nepotism. Top-down organizations that cater to the loudest mouths and biggest spenders. They tend to just select athletes--big, fast, ball-booters. None of them play beautiful soccer or attempt possession. I don't think any of them are great at developing young players. Poor Braddock Road was in there and these people would gloat and make fun of the big wins they had over them at the younger age groups.

My beef isn't necessarily the league per se. It's that the league claims to be development, but it was really for coach convenience.

And any league game 3-4 hour drive is ridiculous.

Upcoming Arlington U9 A and B teams break that mold (if accurate) of big players who boot - around 1/2 selected are fast littler kids with real dribbling talent this year.

Thanks, Dad.

+1
Another Arl A-hole with a 7/8 year old son who he thinks can dribble like Messi
This guy will cry when lil Messi gets dropped down next year at the U10 shakeup that Arl is notorious for (for good reason)

NP here. What is the U10 shakeup that Arlington is notorious for?

NP. Been through this as well with ULittles. Rising U10 was fix-it year. ASA coaches will tell you U9 teams are always incorrectly composed. These so -called littel fast dribblers don't pan out against bigger or agressive kids and get knocked off the ball. Slower players hit a growth/muscle spurt and catch-up speed (pure/technical/tactical). Coaches start lookign for the soccer IQ smart players off the ball. Players with technical skill -- shielding, possessing, passing, footskills, 1v1 -- get recognition over players that just run fast / score goals. Journey starts with Lead coach / TD come in to try to make lots of fixes at U10. Players will move 1 to 2 teams at most, usually 1. Have seen kids for a full year at that point. Parents get all worked up again. As each year goes by, shifting gets less. By U13 full-sided, more sorted out and less change. Players with the technical skill on the ball (not U-Little dribbling speed) are often developed durign this U9-U13 window. What U9s have real technical ability, or work on it outside practice - not part of the club focus anyway. Have to do that on your own / private trainer if you really care. Basically U10 is where a club can make the most shifts / find the most promising 30 or so. Then U11-12, top 20, etc. As they age up, that # gets lower and lower until left with one main travel team / focus of the club.

When we were there it was the switch from U12 to U13 that had the biggest changes. The kids would graduate from the U9-U12 coaches and move up to 11v11. You also had more outside players coming over around then. There were zero changes (maybe just 1 or 2 kids a team) from U9-U12 with both my boys.

Depends if you are talking girls or boys. Girls start to sort at u10-u11. Watch a u10 team scrimmage a u11 team.

[Anonymous]

Is thete really limited ip down movement, even from u9 to u10?

I assumed a few kids would move up, others down. I think my dc will stay at the same level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It attracts the same kind of clubs and people, IMO.

I find Loudoun, Arlington, McLean very similar. Impersonal. Factory. Nepotism. Top-down organizations that cater to the loudest mouths and biggest spenders. They tend to just select athletes--big, fast, ball-booters. None of them play beautiful soccer or attempt possession. I don't think any of them are great at developing young players. Poor Braddock Road was in there and these people would gloat and make fun of the big wins they had over them at the younger age groups.

My beef isn't necessarily the league per se. It's that the league claims to be development, but it was really for coach convenience.

And any league game 3-4 hour drive is ridiculous.

Upcoming Arlington U9 A and B teams break that mold (if accurate) of big players who boot - around 1/2 selected are fast littler kids with real dribbling talent this year.

We played an Arl u9 team a couple of weeks ago and one dad screamed for the entire hour. Guess he is also on dcum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im annoyed at the ccl tournament in Fredericksburg this weekend. Most teams are from the DC area. Cant we just play near by?

is that the CCL scrimmage fest ? There is something like 120 teams playing over two days, what other club has that kind of field space to dedicate to U9 and U10 scrimmages ?

In the scrimmagefest? There are only about 8 teams in each age group--U9 and U10-boys and girls. That's around 32. Where are you getting 120?

on the CCL website under schedule>scrimmage fest. Look at the schedules posted it lists all the teams for each age group, by my count it's 62 teams for U9 and 66 teams for U10 across two divisions boys and girls. That is why they try to get FFC to host it, it's the only club with 7 fields at one site they own.

http://www.clubchampionsleague.com/scrimmagefest/

http://www.clubchampionsleague.com/wp-content/uploads/CCL-ScrimmageFest-powered-by-SKLZ-May-2017-3.0-10s-Schedule.pdf

http://www.clubchampionsleague.com/wp-content/uploads/CCL-ScrimmageFest-powered-by-SKLZ-May-2017-3.0-9s-Schedule.pdf

There is no need to have girls and boys at same location.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^older girls are leaving, too. Lots of them.

True, McLean was stupid to have late tryouts this year. They're going to be surprised.

is that why d. drake is heading for the exits?

she is no longer coaching any teams next year

the turnover continues........

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^older girls are leaving, too. Lots of them.

True, McLean was stupid to have late tryouts this year. They're going to be surprised.

is that why d. drake is heading for the exits?

she is no longer coaching any teams next year

the turnover continues........

there is constant turnover at the club. Constant--even when I was younger and played.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^older girls are leaving, too. Lots of them.

True, McLean was stupid to have late tryouts this year. They're going to be surprised.

is that why d. drake is heading for the exits?

she is no longer coaching any teams next year

the turnover continues........

Doesn't she have a new job with USSF?