
PP here. In my irritation, I apparently forgot to edit. Please try to read through the overlong post and forgive the numerous typos. |
This is a good point, and it is bigoted, although I don't like how you brought the point up. The only thing I know is that my in-laws ARE from the South. And combine that with what I've heard from my African American friends throughout my life about traveling in the South is that it's much more difficult than traveling in the North or West, due to the blatant racism. I didn't say there were no racists in other parts of the country. I didn't say that all people from the South are racist. All I meant by that is that I believe the were raised with an attitude that racism is okay, and I think it's hard for some people to get over something that is ingrained in them from birth. That can certainly happen anywhere, and I remember being in France and hearing racist comments. What I like about your comment is that I do want opportunities to see where my own thinking is misguided, but I think you can say it more gently. I am out of state right now and will read over everyone's responses when I return and have more time. Thanks for everyone's guidance, I really appreciate it. |
I'm sorry I didn't say it nicer. I just have gotten sooooooooo tired of people pointing fingers at the South. I'm truly sorry I took it out on you.
This is truly everywhere, and I think we should acknowledge that. Also, when I came to DC I had all of these "open-minded" people make the most unbelievable shocking comments to me about being Southern...that I really do now see it as a geographical discrimination. I mean look at the news: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brandon-m-terry/a-stranger-in-mine-own-ho_b_242392.html Also, I am in a biracial relationship and I can tell you that we've both observed getting more "dirty looks" here (far far more) than when we are in the South. I thought this area was supposed to be a big mixing bowl. It's downright disappointing. |
really??? ![]() I am white, childs father is black, child is mixed and while weve got a handful I havent noticed many but I do get a fair amount when Im up north at my hometown |
really...we once had an entire group stop eating just to give us nasty looks. This was in Bethesda.
I actually rarely notice it but my husband does. |
How ridiculous. Who has the time and energy to care that you're a biracial couple? That sort of thing just boggles me. Like your relationship affects them in any way. Just eat your damn dinner. |
PP, you're right about prejudice against the south so I understand where you're coming from. I'm annoyed at how many northern white liberals who would never use a negative stereotype about blacks, latinos, gays, women, what-have-you are quick to make jokes about working class white southerners. I've seen opinion polling where higher percentages of respondents think white southerners are stupid than whites in general. Of course even higher percentages think blacks are stupider than whites in general so we have to remember that. And I do believe there is more overt racism in the south. But what I hear you saying is that white southerners as a group shouldn't be dismissed with the "racist" label. That makes sense to me. |
If you want to read a piece about racism in the northeast, try
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/28/us/28bangor.html I grew up in Maine, and I'm white. I saw lots of racism directed at Native Americans while I was growing up, and I'm sure there's prejudice against African-Americans as well. I can't really say how that compares to the South, though. |
Is there any country where racism doesn't exist? |
I'm white and husband is black. (I'm from SC and he's from Texas). He told me that he wants to stay clear of Boston because the people (white males) he's worked with from Boston seem to have it in for women and minorities. A generalization of course, but I thought it was interesting he is so adament about Boston. FWIW - the first nasty looks I ever noticed to us as a couple were here in the DC metro area - not in the South (we dated for 2 years in SC before moving up here).
One of my good friends moved here from SC the same time I did. She was asked a lot of questions like "aren't you glad to be in a civilized area" "aren't you glad to be in a place where there are educated people" all the time. Drove her crazy. I haven't been asked those specific questions, but I have been asked if I'm glad to be in a place without the racism, since husband is black. That cracks me up and people are shocked when I explain we never had an issue in SC and even when we go back to visit with a baby we don't have an issue. No dirty looks, etc. I attended a Southern Baptist church for about 20 years or so, and when I brought my husband (boyfriend then) the first time (he was very nervous), he was shocked how open people were, that there were other blacks/minorities in the congregation, and that people welcomed him (and us as a couple) with open arms. Is there racism in the South? Of course. But there are a LOT of people that aren't racist. |
12:51, this is 11:08 - I want to be your friend!! |