What Is Happpening at Spring Hill?

[Anonymous]

Without question. Why is this even being questioned?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a stake in this, but looking at the map, it makes sense to zone some of the Tysons development to Spring Hill.

We are in Marshall and absolutely do not want more apartments zoned to our high school. My god Langley, Cooper, and Spring Hill can definitely take some of Tysons.

Sorry but Langley homes are very expensive and pay more taxes. You are second.

Sorry, but FCPS and the County need to make Tysons work well for years to come. Langley's success is second or third or fourth to that goal.

FCPS is projecting Langley will be under-enrolled so the only question is where kids will come from to fill the empty seats. They ought to come from Tysons apartments.

Good luck with that I don't think they should take down a highly rated school zone. Marshall is a better choice.

[Anonymous]

Good luck with that yourself. Sorry, but it won't be happening. Apartments will go to Langley in the same area they are in Spring Hill. Get over it already. It's not a big deal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Langley parent here. I think you all are projecting just a bit. Neither I nor any other Langley parents I know would care one way or the other if apartments in and around Tysons were rezoned to Langley. I think many of you like to imagine the Langley community as being this monolithic group, vastly opposed to any rezoning, when in reality, that's simply not the case.

If you have issues with the way in which these areas are zoned, take it up with the SB. Don't smear the Langley community for something we have no control over.

Nice effort to spin, but the majority of the Spring Hill parents agitating to get apartments zoned out of Spring Hill are zoned for Langley. If you want Langley to be viewed more favorably, you should let the School Board know that under-enrolled Cooper and Langley will gladly welcome students from Tysons.

You seem to be the only one spinning (frantically, by the way). "The majority of Spring Hill parents..."?? Are you a Spring Hill parent? How would you possibly know what the "majority" want? Have you polled them? Admit it: you're disgruntled and upset that the zoning isn't going the way you'd like it. I'm actually in the Langley pyramid and know of no one who is "agitating to get apartments zoned out of Spring Hill," or Langley in general. Stop spreading rumors. It only makes you look foolish.

If the SB chooses to rezone apartments to Spring Hill and/or Langley boundaries, so be it. No one's standing in their way.

Exactly. I'm also a Langley pyramid parent and I had always assumed the apartments were zoned for Langley (I had no idea they weren't -- I never checked, because I don't care!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a stake in this, but looking at the map, it makes sense to zone some of the Tysons development to Spring Hill.

We are in Marshall and absolutely do not want more apartments zoned to our high school. My god Langley, Cooper, and Spring Hill can definitely take some of Tysons.

Why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a stake in this, but looking at the map, it makes sense to zone some of the Tysons development to Spring Hill.

We are in Marshall and absolutely do not want more apartments zoned to our high school. My god Langley, Cooper, and Spring Hill can definitely take some of Tysons.

Why?

Marshall is above capacity, has three concentrations of apartments, and is 18% FARMS.

Nearby Langley is below capacity, has no apartments, and is 1.4% FARMS.

Isn't it obvious some apartments should move to Langley?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a stake in this, but looking at the map, it makes sense to zone some of the Tysons development to Spring Hill.

We are in Marshall and absolutely do not want more apartments zoned to our high school. My god Langley, Cooper, and Spring Hill can definitely take some of Tysons.

Why?

Marshall is above capacity, has three concentrations of apartments, and is 18% FARMS.

Nearby Langley is below capacity, has no apartments, and is 1.4% FARMS.

Isn't it obvious some apartments should move to Langley?

Nope

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a stake in this, but looking at the map, it makes sense to zone some of the Tysons development to Spring Hill.

We are in Marshall and absolutely do not want more apartments zoned to our high school. My god Langley, Cooper, and Spring Hill can definitely take some of Tysons.

Why?

Marshall is above capacity, has three concentrations of apartments, and is 18% FARMS.

Nearby Langley is below capacity, has no apartments, and is 1.4% FARMS.

Isn't it obvious some apartments should move to Langley?

Nope

Time to check your privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's clear from the boundary map that the areas with apartments are much closer to Spring Hill than many of the Langley neighborhoods.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/boundary-maps/springhilles.pdf

If the Langley parents don't like more kids from apartments at the school, they should ask to be reassigned and stop assuming that other people should change schools to accommodate their whims.

I guess my eyes are getting old but I really can't fully read that map. We are zoned for Spring Hill/Cooper/Langley and I honestly always assumed the apartments up Spring Hill to Chain Bridge and out to Route 7 were zoned for Spring Hill. It appears that most of them are. I agree this makes sense geographically. Which apartments are we arguing should be zoned for Spring Hill that aren't? That isn't clear to me from this thread.

What does not make sense in this debate is that Spring Hill is at the highest % utilization and the lowest number of under capacity of any of the surrounding elementary schools (with the exception of Freedom Hill which appears to be over capacity and does not feed into Cooper/Langley). I understand that Cooper and Langley are under capacity and ways to resolve that should be discussed. However, I don't agree that maxing out or moving any school over capacity in elementary school is a good solution. Perhaps we need to be looking at moving an entire elementary school out of it's current pyramid and into the Cooper/Langley pyramid? Why does Fairfax County keep building and building up Tyson's without a solid plan for what to do with all of the people moving in?!!!

Here are the numbers from the FCPS County website. Please help me understand why Spring Hill should expand boundaries while it is the only school with a projected upward enrollment trend.

http://151.188.217.200/fts_drupal_support/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll16-17.html

Spring Hill 94% building utilization; 62 students under capacity; 5 year trend enrollment projected to go up over current program capacity
Freedom Hill 101% building utilization; 5 students over capacity; 5 year trend enrollment projected to go down but going up in between
Colvin Run 91% building utilization; 80 students under capacity; 5 year trend enrollment projected to go down
Churchill Road 91% building utilization; 74 students under capacity; 5 year trend enrollment projected to go down
Westbriar 88% building utilization; 111 students under capacity; 5 year trend enrollment projected to go down; expected to peak in 2018 and go down below where it is today by 2021
Westgate 78% building utilization; 152 students under capacity; 5 year trend enrollment projected to go down

As an aside, I hear parents from these schools complaining about over-crowding but it appears the only ones the County would agree with are Freedom Hill.

[Anonymous]

According to the CIP maps, Spring Hill is not the highest utilized school. Most of the ones that take Tysons kids are more overutilized than Spring Hill. Further northwest, there are many schools that are under-capacity. Might mean a boundary change is due fairly soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the CIP maps, Spring Hill is not the highest utilized school. Most of the ones that take Tysons kids are more overutilized than Spring Hill. Further northwest, there are many schools that are under-capacity. Might mean a boundary change is due fairly soon.

Link? Which schools?

[Anonymous]

FCPS maps.

[Anonymous]

Here's a link to one such map:
https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/elementary2019-20.pdf

Clearly, as you go E on Route 7 through Tysons the ES density gets greater.

[Anonymous]

While I don't know the exact numbers, there have been at least 30 new students in the first half of the school year at Spring Hill. This is obvious from just a glance at the "new students" board at the school. Several classes have had 2 new students start in the past month. Current enrollment is well over 1000 now, so the "under capacity" number is way less than 62 (based on September numbers). I personally don't care where the new students come from (apartments or not), but it's the more basic issue of how is the school going to accommodate so many new residential units springing up in Tysons. At the current pace, Spring Hill may be over capacity by the end of this school year, and they only finished the new wing 3 years ago.

[Anonymous]

They can move the western half of Colvin Run to Forestville or Great Falls, and move the western part of Spring Hill to Colvin Run and part of the eastern area to Churchill. Then Spring Hill can keep its current apartments and accommodate any new apartments built within the part of its current boundary near Tysons. Then FCPS should move those and other apartments in Tysons to Cooper/Langley as well.