Looks like Hillary Clinton is setting the stage to run again in 2020

Anonymous
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BTW, I did not vote for her ..... nor did I vote for Trump.


I see this all the time, from posters here and commenters on FB. They ALWAYS say it while trashing Hillary, though, and never deriding Trump. Hmmm.


Since you raise the point: I did not vote for either Hillary or Trump because they were both revolting candidates. As someone who voted for Democratic candidates through the decades, I was not willing to hold my nose and vote for her. Neither was I willing to vote for Trump for obvious reasons.

I voted for Sanders in the primaries and contributed to his campaign.
Anonymous
Message to OP: you better find someone other than Hillary if you want to win. She's damaged goods. This is a country of 320 MILLION people. There is far better.

BTW, yes, I hate the ground she walks on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Message to OP: you better find someone other than Hillary if you want to win. She's damaged goods. This is a country of 320 MILLION people. There is far better.

BTW, yes, I hate the ground she walks on.


Hate? Really? Grow up.
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Anonymous wrote:I say this because she has been blaming her loss on Comey's intervention and the Russian hacking - both events that she alleges caused her to lose the election.

Whether this is true or not is neither here nor there because she wants to send the message to her supporters that she would have been a perfectly viable candidate had it not been for these interventions.

Combine this with the full court press that the Clinton campaign has been busy with promoting this line of defense combined with Palmieri's accusations of dog whistles to white nationalists and racists and I fully expect that she will, at the least, make a run for it in 2020. Keep in mind that the Democratic bench of potential alternatives to Hillary is not exactly deep with the main alternatives being Biden and Sanders who will both be 78 years and Elizabeth Warren who would be viewed by some as too much to the left without the populist appeal that Sanders and Biden have.

It will also have the added dividend of getting contributions revved up to the Clinton Foundation and speaking fees for herself and Bill C since donors are likely to want to hedge their bets in case she does get the nomination and the presidency.

Hillary has some fervent supporters and if she can persuade them that the election was "stolen" from her by the Russians and Comey, they are likely to get on board. Then, of course, there is her pitch about the glass ceiling and how she might be the person to break it ....... and how there is "special place in hell" for women who don't support her!


Did you ever play sports? If you did, did your team ever engage in a post-game analysis? That's all Hillary is doing. This is what worked. This is what didn't. These things potentially interfered. And if so, how much impact did they have? Why did it happen?

This has nothing to do with her running again. It may have a lot to do with the Democratic party's reorganizing its game plan, though.


DP. If you played sports and your post-game analysis consisted of blaming the other team and the refs for your loss, you probably weren't very good at sports.



Do you remember when Romney did this?????

Mitt Romney Phone Call to Donors: Election Loss Due to Obama's 'Gifts' to Young Voters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTirIaJwnAk




Yes, losing candidates do offer some rationalization to their donors and Romney's pitch was that Obama offered "gifts" to certain constituencies but that is a far cry from Hillary's explanation that the election was essentially "stolen" from her by Comey's actions and the Russian hacking.

Now if she said something like Trump appealing to the baser instincts of voters - like racism, etc - that would be a more "conventional" explanation.
Anonymous
In line with Hillary's explanation, here are two of her more prominent supporters essentially casting doubts on the fairness of the election:

Donna Brazile's comments:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/310940-brazile-writes-letter-to-congress-calling-for-investigation-into-russian

John Podesta piles on:

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/310941-podesta-refuses-to-say-election-was-fair-and-free
Anonymous
no way she is running in four years. OP, did you wake and bake this morning?
Anonymous
If Hillary's health permits, I believe that she will run again. It will be her last shot at trying to win the presidency given her age.

She does not stand to lose anything by running again. It assumes that she wins the nomination, of course.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I say this because she has been blaming her loss on Comey's intervention and the Russian hacking - both events that she alleges caused her to lose the election.

Whether this is true or not is neither here nor there because she wants to send the message to her supporters that she would have been a perfectly viable candidate had it not been for these interventions.

Combine this with the full court press that the Clinton campaign has been busy with promoting this line of defense combined with Palmieri's accusations of dog whistles to white nationalists and racists and I fully expect that she will, at the least, make a run for it in 2020. Keep in mind that the Democratic bench of potential alternatives to Hillary is not exactly deep with the main alternatives being Biden and Sanders who will both be 78 years and Elizabeth Warren who would be viewed by some as too much to the left without the populist appeal that Sanders and Biden have.

It will also have the added dividend of getting contributions revved up to the Clinton Foundation and speaking fees for herself and Bill C since donors are likely to want to hedge their bets in case she does get the nomination and the presidency.

Hillary has some fervent supporters and if she can persuade them that the election was "stolen" from her by the Russians and Comey, they are likely to get on board. Then, of course, there is her pitch about the glass ceiling and how she might be the person to break it ....... and how there is "special place in hell" for women who don't support her!


Did you ever play sports? If you did, did your team ever engage in a post-game analysis? That's all Hillary is doing. This is what worked. This is what didn't. These things potentially interfered. And if so, how much impact did they have? Why did it happen?

This has nothing to do with her running again. It may have a lot to do with the Democratic party's reorganizing its game plan, though.


Tell me which candidate who lost the presidential election in the past 50 years got on a soap box even before the next president was sworn in to explain away the loss? Think about Romney, Kerry, Gore, Dole, Bush 41, Dukakis, Mondale, Carter, Ford, McGovern, Humphrey and so on.


Your problem is that you assume this was a normal election. It was not.


Oh, you mean: "This was not a normal election because my candidate lost. Therefore, something is very, very wrong and I must obsess over what. It certainly couldn't be... my candidate??? That's just crazy talk."
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Anonymous wrote:No she's not. She's done. You'll have to find someone new to obsess over.


Why do you think she is blaming her loss on Comey and the Russian hacking? She wants to blame her loss on extraneous events and not on her own flaws.


because it is true... also she won the popular vote

+1
She probably also won the electoral vote, too but we have no evidence (except I refuse to believe America is so dumb as to fall for Dump's lies).


And the liberals have been crowing about "no cure for stupid"? Wow.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I say this because she has been blaming her loss on Comey's intervention and the Russian hacking - both events that she alleges caused her to lose the election.

Whether this is true or not is neither here nor there because she wants to send the message to her supporters that she would have been a perfectly viable candidate had it not been for these interventions.

Combine this with the full court press that the Clinton campaign has been busy with promoting this line of defense combined with Palmieri's accusations of dog whistles to white nationalists and racists and I fully expect that she will, at the least, make a run for it in 2020. Keep in mind that the Democratic bench of potential alternatives to Hillary is not exactly deep with the main alternatives being Biden and Sanders who will both be 78 years and Elizabeth Warren who would be viewed by some as too much to the left without the populist appeal that Sanders and Biden have.

It will also have the added dividend of getting contributions revved up to the Clinton Foundation and speaking fees for herself and Bill C since donors are likely to want to hedge their bets in case she does get the nomination and the presidency.

Hillary has some fervent supporters and if she can persuade them that the election was "stolen" from her by the Russians and Comey, they are likely to get on board. Then, of course, there is her pitch about the glass ceiling and how she might be the person to break it ....... and how there is "special place in hell" for women who don't support her!


Did you ever play sports? If you did, did your team ever engage in a post-game analysis? That's all Hillary is doing. This is what worked. This is what didn't. These things potentially interfered. And if so, how much impact did they have? Why did it happen?

This has nothing to do with her running again. It may have a lot to do with the Democratic party's reorganizing its game plan, though.


Tell me which candidate who lost the presidential election in the past 50 years got on a soap box even before the next president was sworn in to explain away the loss? Think about Romney, Kerry, Gore, Dole, Bush 41, Dukakis, Mondale, Carter, Ford, McGovern, Humphrey and so on.


Your problem is that you assume this was a normal election. It was not.


Which will be Hillary's pitch for why she should have another shot at it. The Clintons never give up. They believe in Churchill's admonition: "we shall never surrender"


America does not deserve the Clintons.

How quaint does their alleged corruption seem now while PEOTUS, his family, and his appointees are poised to strip the country for parts.


ALLEGED??? OMG.
Anonymous

Bill and Hillary are the most corrupted political duo in my lifetime.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
BTW, I did not vote for her ..... nor did I vote for Trump.


I see this all the time, from posters here and commenters on FB. They ALWAYS say it while trashing Hillary, though, and never deriding Trump. Hmmm.

Curious, isn't it? Like that one "I'm a minority woman" poster all election season long who was in the bag for Trump.


You must not have been reading very carefully (or more likely, selective reading). There were plenty of minority and/or children of immigrants who voted for Trump and posted about it here. I'm one of them. Face reality.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I say this because she has been blaming her loss on Comey's intervention and the Russian hacking - both events that she alleges caused her to lose the election.

Whether this is true or not is neither here nor there because she wants to send the message to her supporters that she would have been a perfectly viable candidate had it not been for these interventions.

Combine this with the full court press that the Clinton campaign has been busy with promoting this line of defense combined with Palmieri's accusations of dog whistles to white nationalists and racists and I fully expect that she will, at the least, make a run for it in 2020. Keep in mind that the Democratic bench of potential alternatives to Hillary is not exactly deep with the main alternatives being Biden and Sanders who will both be 78 years and Elizabeth Warren who would be viewed by some as too much to the left without the populist appeal that Sanders and Biden have.

It will also have the added dividend of getting contributions revved up to the Clinton Foundation and speaking fees for herself and Bill C since donors are likely to want to hedge their bets in case she does get the nomination and the presidency.

Hillary has some fervent supporters and if she can persuade them that the election was "stolen" from her by the Russians and Comey, they are likely to get on board. Then, of course, there is her pitch about the glass ceiling and how she might be the person to break it ....... and how there is "special place in hell" for women who don't support her!


Did you ever play sports? If you did, did your team ever engage in a post-game analysis? That's all Hillary is doing. This is what worked. This is what didn't. These things potentially interfered. And if so, how much impact did they have? Why did it happen?

This has nothing to do with her running again. It may have a lot to do with the Democratic party's reorganizing its game plan, though.


DP. If you played sports and your post-game analysis consisted of blaming the other team and the refs for your loss, you probably weren't very good at sports.


+100
Isn't this what we tell our kids all the time when they lose a game? Think about what you could have done better and don't blame others for your loss. Seems there are many Democrats/liberals who aren't much more evolved than their own children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
BTW, I did not vote for her ..... nor did I vote for Trump.


I see this all the time, from posters here and commenters on FB. They ALWAYS say it while trashing Hillary, though, and never deriding Trump. Hmmm.

Curious, isn't it? Like that one "I'm a minority woman" poster all election season long who was in the bag for Trump.


You must not have been reading very carefully (or more likely, selective reading). There were plenty of minority and/or children of immigrants who voted for Trump and posted about it here. I'm one of them. Face reality.


This does not fit into the narrative of liberals: you are a minority and so you must fall in line which means you must vote Democrat.
Anonymous
She already is starting to raise money for 2020. She will be at the march in January. She needs to keep the others out of the field.
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