So yeah, Trump campaign was actually coordinating with the Russians the entire time

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the good men and women in our intel and defense communities the best as they attempt to protect us from ourselves.

How long until Putin invades Ukraine?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/moscow-had-contacts-with-trump-team-during-campaign-russian-diplomat-says/2016/11/10/28fb82fa-a73d-11e6-9bd6-184ab22d218e_story.html


Give it up. The FBI already looked into this and said there wasn't any connections...

Liberals are desperate.
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Anonymous wrote:The PP stated that Russia is all bark no bite. I was stating that it still has bite.


Elaborate, please.

Healthcare is just a good example. Other countries devote money to healthcare while we subsidize their military defense. People of this country think it's unfair. More of our money should go to domestic, not overseas, projects.

? I did.. Ukraine and Syria. WTF? Again, the post wasn't about whether we should be involved, but that Russia still has bite. Goodness.


It doesn't. Goodness. (See how well this works? Oh well, if you don't want to talk, just stop responding.)

No, I don't see how that works. Russia still has bite. Just ask Ukraine, and now Syria. Seriously. You must be living in Trump reality when he stated that Russia is not in Ukraine.

PP, enough. Saying it is so doesn't actually make it so. At least in my reality. Either provide a viable explanation, or stop reiterating "Russia has a bite." Because it doesn't. It wants you to think it does, and you don't know any better.


What are we talking about? Does Russia have a military, navy, and air force to rival ours? No (neither do France and England). Does Russia have enough military power to invade her neighbors and temporarily stabilize Assad? Yes.


You were talking about the endless appetite of a bloodthirsty dictator. Who will obviously rule the world, unless we intervene. You are mistaken. Has it occurred to you that if he could restore the USSR (as some say he wants to) to its original borders, he wouldn't have done it by now? Get a grip and stop shivering.

Assad is not my problem. He is an elected leader of a foreign country. The fact we don't like him doesn't change that.
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Anonymous wrote:The PP stated that Russia is all bark no bite. I was stating that it still has bite.


Elaborate, please.

Healthcare is just a good example. Other countries devote money to healthcare while we subsidize their military defense. People of this country think it's unfair. More of our money should go to domestic, not overseas, projects.

? I did.. Ukraine and Syria. WTF? Again, the post wasn't about whether we should be involved, but that Russia still has bite. Goodness.


It doesn't. Goodness. (See how well this works? Oh well, if you don't want to talk, just stop responding.)

No, I don't see how that works. Russia still has bite. Just ask Ukraine, and now Syria. Seriously. You must be living in Trump reality when he stated that Russia is not in Ukraine.

PP, enough. Saying it is so doesn't actually make it so. At least in my reality. Either provide a viable explanation, or stop reiterating "Russia has a bite." Because it doesn't. It wants you to think it does, and you don't know any better.


What are we talking about? Does Russia have a military, navy, and air force to rival ours? No (neither do France and England). Does Russia have enough military power to invade her neighbors and temporarily stabilize Assad? Yes.


You were talking about the endless appetite of a bloodthirsty dictator. Who will obviously rule the world, unless we intervene. You are mistaken. Has it occurred to you that if he could restore the USSR (as some say he wants to) to its original borders, he wouldn't have done it by now? Get a grip and stop shivering.

Assad is not my problem. He is an elected leader of a foreign country. The fact we don't like him doesn't change that.


Uh, Putin has a massive nuclear arsenal. The only thing that was stopping him from invading the rest of Eastern Europe was the mutual assurance provisions of the NATO treaty. Trump threatened to, maybe, tear it up. Or not. No one knows.

You think he won't drop a warhead on Kiev or Riga, if he knows President Trump won't attack? Think again. You are naive and have zero understanding of real politik.

Jesus, we are doing ISIS's job for them!
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Anonymous wrote:I wish the good men and women in our intel and defense communities the best as they attempt to protect us from ourselves.

How long until Putin invades Ukraine?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/moscow-had-contacts-with-trump-team-during-campaign-russian-diplomat-says/2016/11/10/28fb82fa-a73d-11e6-9bd6-184ab22d218e_story.html


Give it up. The FBI already looked into this and said there wasn't any connections...

Liberals are desperate.


That's not what the FBI said. They asked for and got a FISA warrant in October to look more deeply at Trump.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, why are you concerned about Ukraine? It's not our battle to fight. Maybe volunteer for your local school instead of regurgitating CNN.

I think HRC going full-blown McCarthian was ridiculous.

We have our problems, people. Stop trying to police the world. We're not that rich and powerful anymore. Better pray Russia and China don't start trading oil in yuan. This is what your headaches should be about.


NP here.

What on earth gives you the idea that it will stop with Ukraine? Exactly how much of the world are you willing to cede to a bloodthirsty dictator?

We are plenty rich and powerful enough to ensure stability in the world, which is both moral and in our best interest as a nation.

Your "America is weak" nonsense is simply wrong, and unpatriotic to boot.


And this is where your total lack of external awareness begins. Russia is not the admirable adversary it is portrayed by the media. It is a bleeding economy that cannot possibly master the means to conquer the whole world. It is a dog that barks but doesn't bite.

America is not weak. America is not smart. But its people are waking up to the fact that we can't afford to support the rest of the world anymore.

You obviously missed the memo. Stay afraid of Putin if you choose. I can't help but laughing.


The above is, in a word, ludicrous.

Russia has more force projection capability than all of Western Europe combined could possibly deal with (absent US assistance), notwithstanding its economic woes.

"Supporting the rest of the world" is not the issue--again, it's in our self interest to create a stable global order. This has been the overwhelming consensus by both conservative and liberal statesmen, wonks, intellectuals, military leaders since the end of WWII.

You'd overturn this and endanger our national security for what compelling reason exactly?



By all means let's ignore the Russian efforts to upgrade their nuclear capabilities and submarine fleet because ... health care.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish the good men and women in our intel and defense communities the best as they attempt to protect us from ourselves.

How long until Putin invades Ukraine?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/moscow-had-contacts-with-trump-team-during-campaign-russian-diplomat-says/2016/11/10/28fb82fa-a73d-11e6-9bd6-184ab22d218e_story.html


Why is this not treason?

Please, someone explain this to me. Coordinating with a foreign power to defeat your opponent in a presidential election is not treason? Why have charges not been brought against the Trump campaign members who were in contact with Russian diplomats??????

Explain the law here, please!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wish the good men and women in our intel and defense communities the best as they attempt to protect us from ourselves.

How long until Putin invades Ukraine?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/moscow-had-contacts-with-trump-team-during-campaign-russian-diplomat-says/2016/11/10/28fb82fa-a73d-11e6-9bd6-184ab22d218e_story.html


that Van guy was talking on CNN about how afraid minorities in the US are. I can tell you people in Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Ukraine are shivering in fright with thoughts about what kind of Russian agression they will have to confront (on their own). Folks in Western Europe can't feel that much safer.
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Anonymous wrote:The PP stated that Russia is all bark no bite. I was stating that it still has bite.


Elaborate, please.

Healthcare is just a good example. Other countries devote money to healthcare while we subsidize their military defense. People of this country think it's unfair. More of our money should go to domestic, not overseas, projects.

? I did.. Ukraine and Syria. WTF? Again, the post wasn't about whether we should be involved, but that Russia still has bite. Goodness.


It doesn't. Goodness. (See how well this works? Oh well, if you don't want to talk, just stop responding.)

No, I don't see how that works. Russia still has bite. Just ask Ukraine, and now Syria. Seriously. You must be living in Trump reality when he stated that Russia is not in Ukraine.

PP, enough. Saying it is so doesn't actually make it so. At least in my reality. Either provide a viable explanation, or stop reiterating "Russia has a bite." Because it doesn't. It wants you to think it does, and you don't know any better.


What are we talking about? Does Russia have a military, navy, and air force to rival ours? No (neither do France and England). Does Russia have enough military power to invade her neighbors and temporarily stabilize Assad? Yes.


You were talking about the endless appetite of a bloodthirsty dictator. Who will obviously rule the world, unless we intervene. You are mistaken. Has it occurred to you that if he could restore the USSR (as some say he wants to) to its original borders, he wouldn't have done it by now? Get a grip and stop shivering.

Assad is not my problem. He is an elected leader of a foreign country. The fact we don't like him doesn't change that.


Uh, Putin has a massive nuclear arsenal. The only thing that was stopping him from invading the rest of Eastern Europe was the mutual assurance provisions of the NATO treaty. Trump threatened to, maybe, tear it up. Or not. No one knows.

You think he won't drop a warhead on Kiev or Riga, if he knows President Trump won't attack? Think again. You are naive and have zero understanding of real politik.

Jesus, we are doing ISIS's job for them!


He won't. It's not his real politik. He has gas to sell. He has food to buy. Believe me, he'd get along with Europe just fine. Sheesh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wish the good men and women in our intel and defense communities the best as they attempt to protect us from ourselves.

How long until Putin invades Ukraine?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/moscow-had-contacts-with-trump-team-during-campaign-russian-diplomat-says/2016/11/10/28fb82fa-a73d-11e6-9bd6-
184ab22d218e_story.html


Why is it any of the U.S. business what happens between Russia and Ukraine? I don't care. I am sick and tired of US borrowing money to spend it in another country.Trillions in debt, and fighting wars all over. Have we learned nothing from decades of fiasco in Iran, and the rest of the world? Majority of foreign problems were cause by US itself and it is time to stop spreading democracy with capitalism.(Where did it really work?) It is 21st century.
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Here's what it says in the WaPo article:

Obama administration officials have blamed Russian hackers, possibly with high-level intelligence links, for infiltrating the email account of Clinton’s campaign chief, John Podesta. The emails were then disclosed by WikiLeaks in an effort that Clinton supporters claim was intended to damage her White House bid.

If the administration has proof that Russian hackers were trying to defeat Hillary and the Russians were in contact with the Trump campaign, is that not evidence enough of treason?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wish the good men and women in our intel and defense communities the best as they attempt to protect us from ourselves.

How long until Putin invades Ukraine?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/moscow-had-contacts-with-trump-team-during-campaign-russian-diplomat-says/2016/11/10/28fb82fa-a73d-11e6-9bd6-184ab22d218e_story.html


Why is this not treason?

Please, someone explain this to me. Coordinating with a foreign power to defeat your opponent in a presidential election is not treason? Why have charges not been brought against the Trump campaign members who were in contact with Russian diplomats??????

Explain the law here, please!


Reagan did it with the Iranians to defeat Carter. No one got in trouble then either.

The GOP is so slimy. They will literally get in bed with our enemies to secure power.
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Anonymous wrote:Here's what it says in the WaPo article:

Obama administration officials have blamed Russian hackers, possibly with high-level intelligence links, for infiltrating the email account of Clinton’s campaign chief, John Podesta. The emails were then disclosed by WikiLeaks in an effort that Clinton supporters claim was intended to damage her White House bid.

If the administration has proof that Russian hackers were trying to defeat Hillary and the Russians were in contact with the Trump campaign, is that not evidence enough of treason?


So far, nobody is alleging that Trump was improperly communicating with Russia. But some people in his campaign may have been, and he's too dumb to notice.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish the good men and women in our intel and defense communities the best as they attempt to protect us from ourselves.

How long until Putin invades Ukraine?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/moscow-had-contacts-with-trump-team-during-campaign-russian-diplomat-says/2016/11/10/28fb82fa-a73d-11e6-9bd6-
184ab22d218e_story.html


Why is it any of the U.S. business what happens between Russia and Ukraine? I don't care. I am sick and tired of US borrowing money to spend it in another country.Trillions in debt, and fighting wars all over. Have we learned nothing from decades of fiasco in Iran, and the rest of the world? Majority of foreign problems were cause by US itself and it is time to stop spreading democracy with capitalism.(Where did it really work?) It is 21st century.


It is the US's business since we signed a treaty with these countries promising to come to their aid if any one of them is invaded by a foreign power. Trump has said that as POTUS, he would not uphold NATO, therefore opening the door for Putin to invade any NATO country.

Does honoring your agreements mean nothing to you, PP? Are you married? Did you make promises that you aren't going to keep just because you don't feel like it or it's inconvenient?

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I don't care unless this means he can be tried for treason and the election results made void.
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Anonymous wrote:The PP stated that Russia is all bark no bite. I was stating that it still has bite.


Elaborate, please.

Healthcare is just a good example. Other countries devote money to healthcare while we subsidize their military defense. People of this country think it's unfair. More of our money should go to domestic, not overseas, projects.

? I did.. Ukraine and Syria. WTF? Again, the post wasn't about whether we should be involved, but that Russia still has bite. Goodness.


It doesn't. Goodness. (See how well this works? Oh well, if you don't want to talk, just stop responding.)

No, I don't see how that works. Russia still has bite. Just ask Ukraine, and now Syria. Seriously. You must be living in Trump reality when he stated that Russia is not in Ukraine.

PP, enough. Saying it is so doesn't actually make it so. At least in my reality. Either provide a viable explanation, or stop reiterating "Russia has a bite." Because it doesn't. It wants you to think it does, and you don't know any better.


What are we talking about? Does Russia have a military, navy, and air force to rival ours? No (neither do France and England). Does Russia have enough military power to invade her neighbors and temporarily stabilize Assad? Yes.


You were talking about the endless appetite of a bloodthirsty dictator. Who will obviously rule the world, unless we intervene. You are mistaken. Has it occurred to you that if he could restore the USSR (as some say he wants to) to its original borders, he wouldn't have done it by now? Get a grip and stop shivering.

Assad is not my problem. He is an elected leader of a foreign country. The fact we don't like him doesn't change that.


Uh, Putin has a massive nuclear arsenal. The only thing that was stopping him from invading the rest of Eastern Europe was the mutual assurance provisions of the NATO treaty. Trump threatened to, maybe, tear it up. Or not. No one knows.

You think he won't drop a warhead on Kiev or Riga, if he knows President Trump won't attack? Think again. You are naive and have zero understanding of real politik.

Jesus, we are doing ISIS's job for them!


He won't. It's not his real politik. He has gas to sell. He has food to buy. Believe me, he'd get along with Europe just fine. Sheesh.


NATO and the rest of Europe are worried. Even mostly neutral Norway is allowing some US troop presence along the border with Russia.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-meeting-russia-idUSKCN12R272
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