BLM Coalition Reveals 6 Point Policy Platform

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think the policy platforms are too broad and detract from the goal of more just treatment by the police and justice system. Why on earth would you need to bring divesting from fossil fuels and military cuts into the conversation?

Well, for one, it would bring much needed substance into their movement, which is critically lacking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

Does anybody really believe the movement would be satisfied if only those blacks who could prove a connection to slavery got money but not other black people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

So the Japanese should seek reparation for the WWII concentration camp too.

Chinese should seek reparation for building the railroads while suffering racial discrimination.

American Indians should of course seek reparation for all the land we took from them.

Women should seek reparations from men

LBGT should seek reparations from straight people

I get a reparation, you get a reparation, everyone gets a reparation!

At some point, people need to stop being a victim after the systemic problems have been resolved, and move on to build themselves a better future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

So the Japanese should seek reparation for the WWII concentration camp too.

Chinese should seek reparation for building the railroads while suffering racial discrimination.

American Indians should of course seek reparation for all the land we took from them.

Women should seek reparations from men

LBGT should seek reparations from straight people

I get a reparation, you get a reparation, everyone gets a reparation!

At some point, people need to stop being a victim after the systemic problems have been resolved, and move on to build themselves a better future.

PP here, didn't realize the Japanese did actually get reparation! It seems in that case it was paid directly to a surviving victim. Any record of reparations being paid to the kids of victims?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

Are you joking? There ARE no survivors of U.S. slavery. Figure slavery ended in 1865, and if a young slave was 10, at the most he could live another 90 years or so. That would bring him to 1955. Even if he lived 100 additional years, to age 110, that would bring him to 1965. I think it's a safe bet that the last survivor of slavery died 50 years ago, and likely more.

Of course, we do have survivors of the Nazis still living - now in their 80s and 90s - and Germany is still paying reparations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

So the Japanese should seek reparation for the WWII concentration camp too.

Chinese should seek reparation for building the railroads while suffering racial discrimination.

American Indians should of course seek reparation for all the land we took from them.

Women should seek reparations from men

LBGT should seek reparations from straight people

I get a reparation, you get a reparation, everyone gets a reparation!

At some point, people need to stop being a victim after the systemic problems have been resolved, and move on to build themselves a better future.

I agree. The whole premise is nonsense. In reality very few people owned slaves (and slavery has been around since the beginning of time--it wasn't invented by whites in the US).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

So the Japanese should seek reparation for the WWII concentration camp too.

Chinese should seek reparation for building the railroads while suffering racial discrimination.

American Indians should of course seek reparation for all the land we took from them.

Women should seek reparations from men

LBGT should seek reparations from straight people

I get a reparation, you get a reparation, everyone gets a reparation!

At some point, people need to stop being a victim after the systemic problems have been resolved, and move on to build themselves a better future.

PP here, didn't realize the Japanese did actually get reparation! It seems in that case it was paid directly to a surviving victim. Any record of reparations being paid to the kids of victims?

It is a false analogy in any event. Very few whites owned slaves and the US gov didn't enslave anyone. That was done by individuals just a ms it has been done since the beginning of mankind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

So the Japanese should seek reparation for the WWII concentration camp too.

Chinese should seek reparation for building the railroads while suffering racial discrimination.

American Indians should of course seek reparation for all the land we took from them.

Women should seek reparations from men

LBGT should seek reparations from straight people

I get a reparation, you get a reparation, everyone gets a reparation!

At some point, people need to stop being a victim after the systemic problems have been resolved, and move on to build themselves a better future.

Perhaps all the whites who lost everything when their fathers, brothers, husbands and sons were killed fighting for the North should seek reparations also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

Are you joking? There ARE no survivors of U.S. slavery. Figure slavery ended in 1865, and if a young slave was 10, at the most he could live another 90 years or so. That would bring him to 1955. Even if he lived 100 additional years, to age 110, that would bring him to 1965. I think it's a safe bet that the last survivor of slavery died 50 years ago, and likely more.

Of course, we do have survivors of the Nazis still living - now in their 80s and 90s - and Germany is still paying reparations.

Thank you. Issue dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

Does anybody really believe the movement would be satisfied if only those blacks who could prove a connection to slavery got money but not other black people?

Not any thinking person but hey, that doesn't fit the narrative. Let's make an entire populace pay for something they themselves did not do. Nothing.wiil.ever.be.enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

Uhh... they're all dead. Meanwhile, there are more slaves in the world now than there ever were here in the US. Can we fix that? Can women and American Indians get reparations? How about my white family who were almost wiped out by American Indians?

I was all for BLM (white person here) until this ill conceived list. My guess is that bringing it into focus wont' help them much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

That's great. We can track them down to their country of origin and then compare the life they would have had in (for example) Mali vs. the US. We could determine the disadvantage/advantages accrued living in the US vs. living in Mali. If living in the US materially disadvantaged their descendents in lifespan, education, yearly salary etc then we could probably determine how much the US owns them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

Actually, no it's not. The U.S. Historically has done a great job of record keeping. Some combination of prior census identification plus other proof would be more than enough.

That's great. We can track them down to their country of origin and then compare the life they would have had in (for example) Mali vs. the US. We could determine the disadvantage/advantages accrued living in the US vs. living in Mali. If living in the US materially disadvantaged their descendents in lifespan, education, yearly salary etc then we could probably determine how much the US owns them.

If they are better off, then would they owe reparations to the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

Uhh... they're all dead.

That's why I'm sure we could agree to the payment.

No one would be satisfied if only the descendants of slavery got cash reparations. Even if gov't sponsored programs attempting to undo the horrible legacy were subtracted from the payment. Cash reparations can't undo what's been done, and they won't magically make everything ok in all racial relations.