BLM Coalition Reveals 6 Point Policy Platform

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

So you're saying that you look forward to the time that whites are the minority, and they'll get a taste of the discrimination the blacks are currently fighting? All I can say is....I'm glad I'm more than halfway through life so I won't have to witness it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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I have no idea if reparations will help improve AAs economically or in education. It hasn't appeared to help Native Americans too much. None of this really matters though. Reparations are an attempt to right a wrong. AAs suffered economically due to the actions of the government. They should be compensated as such. Not sure why this seems to be such a hard concept to comprehend.

If past efforts have shown that reparations didn't amount to a hill of beans, why would we waste more money if the results don't outweigh the costs?

not sure why THAT seems to be such a hard concept to comprehend, PP


I'm not agreeing to spending another dime on a failed effort. The country is already in debt by trillions with a failing educational system. If you want to reallocate money, then use it wisely by going into the urban school districts, making class sizes no larger than 15, creating wellness centers for those kids, hiring THE BEST teachers while offering them incentives to stay and perhaps work with kids over the summer, and create outreach programs that connect schools to neighborhoods.

Stats show that blacks AND Hispanics are behind academically. So instead of being reactive with money ("Here's $20 b/c we feel guilty."), be proactive by using money to teach kids how to read and work through anger and resentment. And give them job training. Not all kids WANT to go to college, but our elitist society thinks that trades are beneath us. That to me is highly offensive, as I come from a family skilled in trades.

Common sense is dead.

Spending a dime on what failed effort? I'm actually not even sure what you are talking about as it relates to education-- its rather incoherent. It appears you do not understand the definition of reparations.

Reparations can be paid in various ways. It could be through money, programs, or some combination of the two. Theoretically, any form of reparations should help. But we don't know, and we can't even agree to study ways to see how its possible. None of this excuses the fact that a debt is owed to AAs and needs to be rightfully paid. We could debate owe or to whom (which is it seems like you are doing), that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. BLM was absolutely right to include it as part of its agenda.

American Indian Reparations

http://www.prrac.org/full_text.php?%20text_id=649&item_id=6623&newsletter_id=17

The experience of American Indians in obtaining reparations from the federal government should interest those who seek similar actions with respect to Black Americans. American Indians have received three types of reparations: (1) cash payments, through the operation of the Indian Claims Commission and the U.S. Court of Claims; (2) land, through an occasional action of Congress to return control over land to particular tribes; and (3) tribal recognition, by either Congress or the Bureau of Indian Affairs. The first of these has been the least satisfactory, measured by long-term impact on Indian communities.[b] The second was more satisfactory, but has been experienced by very few tribes. The third, which is in process now, has had the best results.

Reparations worked, however, when identity was restored. Monetarily, it's a failure, as simply giving away money isn't incentive to move forward. We see this dependence on government assistance.

Clearly, however, you fail to see how emphasis on schools - with a strong connection to community - would be a KEY route toward progress and one which fits w/in the reparations umbrella.

But that's fine. You have one lens; I have another. And mine focuses on helping kids develop skills to make them functioning members of society.

If that's an incoherent message, I'm sorry to say that the fault may be with your comprehension skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

Sounds like you are optimistic for a great America!!! <sarcasm>
Guess our nation hasn’t “evolved” as much as people would like to think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

I wish you could write better. Then maybe someone would take your points seriously. maybe . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

Be careful what you wish for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

So you're saying that you look forward to the time that whites are the minority, and they'll get a taste of the discrimination the blacks are currently fighting? All I can say is....I'm glad I'm more than halfway through life so I won't have to witness it.

What a coincidence, I'm glad I'm in the present time cause its only been within the last 30/40 years that being black in this country hasn't been a total nightmare. I'm glad I didn't have to witness all the absurdly racist atrocities prior to the 1960's - beatings, lynchings, rapes, murders...list is friggin infinite and was so widespread practically every black person in this country over the age of 60 should be treated for PTSD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

So you're saying that you look forward to the time that whites are the minority, and they'll get a taste of the discrimination the blacks are currently fighting? All I can say is....I'm glad I'm more than halfway through life so I won't have to witness it.

What a coincidence, I'm glad I'm in the present time cause its only been within the last 30/40 years that being black in this country hasn't been a total nightmare. I'm glad I didn't have to witness all the absurdly racist atrocities prior to the 1960's - beatings, lynchings, rapes, murders...list is friggin infinite and was so widespread practically every black person in this country over the age of 60 should be treated for PTSD.

Well, why not add therapy to the BLM platform?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

I doubt any are still living. What about any Germans or Italian ancestry or citizens that were interred or relocated from any USA military zones? No payments to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

So you're saying that you look forward to the time that whites are the minority, and they'll get a taste of the discrimination the blacks are currently fighting? All I can say is....I'm glad I'm more than halfway through life so I won't have to witness it.

What a coincidence, I'm glad I'm in the present time cause its only been within the last 30/40 years that being black in this country hasn't been a total nightmare. I'm glad I didn't have to witness all the absurdly racist atrocities prior to the 1960's - beatings, lynchings, rapes, murders...list is friggin infinite and was so widespread practically every black person in this country over the age of 60 should be treated for PTSD.

Well, why not add therapy to the BLM platform?

F the BLM platform, I couldn't care less about stupid policies or idiotic amenities cause none of that shit will enlighten whites about what they did so their apologies and condolences will forever be empty. True enlightenment comes via experience so just like the convicted child molester doesn't understand the depravity of his actions until he's raped in prison white folks won't understand the hell and horror the inflicted until they go thru it themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:formatting and editing changes

I have no idea if reparations will help improve AAs economically or in education. It hasn't appeared to help Native Americans too much. None of this really matters though. Reparations are an attempt to right a wrong. AAs suffered economically due to the actions of the government. They should be compensated as such. Not sure why this seems to be such a hard concept to comprehend.

If past efforts have shown that reparations didn't amount to a hill of beans, why would we waste more money if the results don't outweigh the costs?

not sure why THAT seems to be such a hard concept to comprehend, PP


I'm not agreeing to spending another dime on a failed effort. The country is already in debt by trillions with a failing educational system. If you want to reallocate money, then use it wisely by going into the urban school districts, making class sizes no larger than 15, creating wellness centers for those kids, hiring THE BEST teachers while offering them incentives to stay and perhaps work with kids over the summer, and create outreach programs that connect schools to neighborhoods.

Stats show that blacks AND Hispanics are behind academically. So instead of being reactive with money ("Here's $20 b/c we feel guilty."), be proactive by using money to teach kids how to read and work through anger and resentment. And give them job training. Not all kids WANT to go to college, but our elitist society thinks that trades are beneath us. That to me is highly offensive, as I come from a family skilled in trades.

Common sense is dead.

Spending a dime on what failed effort? I'm actually not even sure what you are talking about as it relates to education-- its rather incoherent. It appears you do not understand the definition of reparations.

Reparations can be paid in various ways. It could be through money, programs, or some combination of the two. Theoretically, any form of reparations should help. But we don't know, and we can't even agree to study ways to see how its possible. None of this excuses the fact that a debt is owed to AAs and needs to be rightfully paid. We could debate owe or to whom (which is it seems like you are doing), that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. BLM was absolutely right to include it as part of its agenda.

American Indian Reparations

http://www.prrac.org/full_text.php?%20text_id=649&item_id=6623&newsletter_id=17

The experience of American Indians in obtaining reparations from the federal government should interest those who seek similar actions with respect to Black Americans. American Indians have received three types of reparations: (1) cash payments, through the operation of the Indian Claims Commission and the U.S. Court of Claims; (2) land, through an occasional action of Congress to return control over land to particular tribes; and (3) tribal recognition, by either Congress or the Bureau of Indian Affairs. The first of these has been the least satisfactory, measured by long-term impact on Indian communities.[b] The second was more satisfactory, but has been experienced by very few tribes. The third, which is in process now, has had the best results.

Reparations worked, however, when identity was restored. Monetarily, it's a failure, as simply giving away money isn't incentive to move forward. We see this dependence on government assistance.

Clearly, however, you fail to see how emphasis on schools - with a strong connection to community - would be a KEY route toward progress and one which fits w/in the reparations umbrella.

But that's fine. You have one lens; I have another. And mine focuses on helping kids develop skills to make them functioning members of society.

If that's an incoherent message, I'm sorry to say that the fault may be with your comprehension skills.

You are debating how reparations should be administered. Thats not what I'm addressing. I am; however, happy to see that you do understand reparations are owed AAs. Thats a great starting point to working towards solutions.

You want it to focus on education instead of cash payments or free college tuition? Sounds good to me. Lets get it started. I am familiar with PRRAC's position. A "Marshall Plan" like approach for AAs would be a great first step. Doesn't mean money and investment in human capital and business are not necessary. It would just be part of the package..money alone likely won't work. If you are suggesting that reparations should not be owed b/c "it didn't work with Native Americans in the past," then my previous comments about not understanding the meaning of reparations stands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reparations for those in the Japanese internment camps paid $20K to each survivor (approx. 100,000).

I'm sure we could agree to pay 20K to each survivor of U.S. slavery.

That would work if we were able to identify the survivors of U.S. slavery, but that is near impossible.

I doubt any are still living. What about any Germans or Italian ancestry or citizens that were interred or relocated from any USA military zones? No payments to them.

Maybe they need to organize and call for reparations. Just b/c they haven't done so, doesn't mean AA should not receive reparations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

So you're saying that you look forward to the time that whites are the minority, and they'll get a taste of the discrimination the blacks are currently fighting? All I can say is....I'm glad I'm more than halfway through life so I won't have to witness it.

What she is saying is that evil is abundant in the world and residing squarely in her person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

So you're saying that you look forward to the time that whites are the minority, and they'll get a taste of the discrimination the blacks are currently fighting? All I can say is....I'm glad I'm more than halfway through life so I won't have to witness it.

What a coincidence, I'm glad I'm in the present time cause its only been within the last 30/40 years that being black in this country hasn't been a total nightmare. I'm glad I didn't have to witness all the absurdly racist atrocities prior to the 1960's - beatings, lynchings, rapes, murders...list is friggin infinite and was so widespread practically every black person in this country over the age of 60 should be treated for PTSD.

Well, why not add therapy to the BLM platform?

F the BLM platform, I couldn't care less about stupid policies or idiotic amenities cause none of that shit will enlighten whites about what they did so their apologies and condolences will forever be empty. True enlightenment comes via experience so just like the convicted child molester doesn't understand the depravity of his actions until he's raped in prison white folks won't understand the hell and horror the inflicted until they go thru it themselves.

You are conveniently missing the point that not a single white person in america today has ever owned a slave...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm black and I say no to reparations cause the last thing I want in 40 years when my grandchildren are in the new up and coming majority-minority is to have them feel obligated to help out the poor dwindling populace of white folks who "paid their dues" for slavery.
F-that...I want my grandkids to be able to repeat the same refrain my grandfather heard from white folks when he complained about being shitted on and shut out, "deal with it."

Clearly you're educated and evolved. Thanks for your intelligent input!

God help you if your grandchildren fall in love with white folks.

If my grandkids fall in love and marry a white person then they're family and family supports one another but as for all the other non-related white folks years from now who will no doubt be infinitely more impacted by reverse racism than folks today because they're no longer the majority....my attitude is f-em and I damn sure won't be distraught if my grandkids share the same sentiments. Karma is a bitch and time is infinite so what goes around always comes around ultimately the uncertainty is when.

So you're saying that you look forward to the time that whites are the minority, and they'll get a taste of the discrimination the blacks are currently fighting? All I can say is....I'm glad I'm more than halfway through life so I won't have to witness it.

What a coincidence, I'm glad I'm in the present time cause its only been within the last 30/40 years that being black in this country hasn't been a total nightmare. I'm glad I didn't have to witness all the absurdly racist atrocities prior to the 1960's - beatings, lynchings, rapes, murders...list is friggin infinite and was so widespread practically every black person in this country over the age of 60 should be treated for PTSD.

Well, why not add therapy to the BLM platform?

F the BLM platform, I couldn't care less about stupid policies or idiotic amenities cause none of that shit will enlighten whites about what they did so their apologies and condolences will forever be empty. True enlightenment comes via experience so just like the convicted child molester doesn't understand the depravity of his actions until he's raped in prison white folks won't understand the hell and horror the inflicted until they go thru it themselves.

Thanks for that.

yet another enlightened "eye for an eye" response
You must love the Old Testament.

btw - I was being sarcastic about adding therapy to the platform. just in case it went over your head