Summer Swim Team - swimmers train off season commonly?

[Anonymous]

OP, for some swimmers, summer is the "off season" and summer teams are for fun -- and it is fun with team spirit and cheesy cheers and pep rallies. For other kids, summer team is the only time they swim and that's great too.

For kids who swim during the school year, that is their sport, like soccer or gymnastics for other kids. They aren't doing it so they will be be better for the summer pool team. They are swimmers and may also be swimming for their school teams in the winter.

So don't do it just for the sake of the summer program. Do it if this is the sport she wants to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What teams have more than 3 swimmers in an event with all star times? Is this Division A?

A, B, C, D & E that I know of. Depends on the age group/sex, but yes.

Lots in A.

This is not true if you are in MCSL. I just looked at the results for various divisions.

[Anonymous]

We are at a D1 pool in NVSL. Almost all our Saturday swimmers swim year round. Our team does not win based upon what happens in the summer, it's all about the year-round training. At our pool, it is strongly encouraged to sign up for a program for the rest of the year. Only 6-9 swimmers per age group get to swim on Saturdays and you don't have much hope unless you swim year-round.

This is well-known, though, so most swimmers go in expecting to only swim in B mets. It can be challenging if your kid only makes 1 Saturday meet because then they realize how much more exciting it is to be an A meet swimmer. Sometimes that motivates them to work harder and sometimes that makes them want to quit because it is hard to go back to B meets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are at a D1 pool in NVSL. Almost all our Saturday swimmers swim year round. Our team does not win based upon what happens in the summer, it's all about the year-round training. At our pool, it is strongly encouraged to sign up for a program for the rest of the year. Only 6-9 swimmers per age group get to swim on Saturdays and you don't have much hope unless you swim year-round.

This is well-known, though, so most swimmers go in expecting to only swim in B mets. It can be challenging if your kid only makes 1 Saturday meet because then they realize how much more exciting it is to be an A meet swimmer. Sometimes that motivates them to work harder and sometimes that makes them want to quit because it is hard to go back to B meets.

Omg, so pretentious. If this was my kids team I'd find another one.
In my kids' league the B meets are super fun and even kids who only swim 'A' meets come to them - volunteer, cheer and hang out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are at a D1 pool in NVSL. Almost all our Saturday swimmers swim year round. Our team does not win based upon what happens in the summer, it's all about the year-round training. At our pool, it is strongly encouraged to sign up for a program for the rest of the year. Only 6-9 swimmers per age group get to swim on Saturdays and you don't have much hope unless you swim year-round.

This is well-known, though, so most swimmers go in expecting to only swim in B mets. It can be challenging if your kid only makes 1 Saturday meet because then they realize how much more exciting it is to be an A meet swimmer. Sometimes that motivates them to work harder and sometimes that makes them want to quit because it is hard to go back to B meets.

Just curious, and I promise this is not a snarky comment, are you at one of the three pools that is always in D1 or are you at one of the the other pools that rotates in to D1 based on time in water and results the prior year? (Our pool was in D1 a few years ago but we dropped down - due to results - after the one year in D1). The three that are usually in D1 (Chesterbrook, Tuckahoe, and I always forget the third) are clearly different and more competitive than "neighborhood pools (and that's not a bad thing).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are at a D1 pool in NVSL. Almost all our Saturday swimmers swim year round. Our team does not win based upon what happens in the summer, it's all about the year-round training. At our pool, it is strongly encouraged to sign up for a program for the rest of the year. Only 6-9 swimmers per age group get to swim on Saturdays and you don't have much hope unless you swim year-round.

This is well-known, though, so most swimmers go in expecting to only swim in B mets. It can be challenging if your kid only makes 1 Saturday meet because then they realize how much more exciting it is to be an A meet swimmer. Sometimes that motivates them to work harder and sometimes that makes them want to quit because it is hard to go back to B meets.

Just curious, and I promise this is not a snarky comment, are you at one of the three pools that is always in D1 or are you at one of the the other pools that rotates in to D1 based on time in water and results the prior year? (Our pool was in D1 a few years ago but we dropped down - due to results - after the one year in D1). The three that are usually in D1 (Chesterbrook, Tuckahoe, and I always forget the third) are clearly different and more competitive than "neighborhood pools (and that's not a bad thing).

Yes - Always D1. The 4 that never move out are Tuckahoe, Chesterbrook, Overlee & McLean. We are at one and have friends at another. Year-round swim and private lessons are the norm.

To the poster who said they'd find another pool, it doesn't work like that. Waitlists for pools in this area are years and years long. People usually get on a few lists and join wherever they get in. Ultimately, you hope it's the one closest to you. We didn't join because it was D1, we joined because we could walk.

[Anonymous]

Waitlists are not years long in all areas. Our area has a lot of military, so even at our area's highly ranked pool there is no wait list or you can get in with the August memberships after military move for the summer.

I have not heard of a single pool in our entire area where wait lists are long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Waitlists are not years long in all areas. Our area has a lot of military, so even at our area's highly ranked pool there is no wait list or you can get in with the August memberships after military move for the summer.

I have not heard of a single pool in our entire area where wait lists are long.

Well, then you don't live in Arlington. Overlee, Dominion Hills and Arlington Forest are all a 3-year minimom. It took my friends 6 years to get into Overlee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlists are not years long in all areas. Our area has a lot of military, so even at our area's highly ranked pool there is no wait list or you can get in with the August memberships after military move for the summer.

I have not heard of a single pool in our entire area where wait lists are long.

Well, then you don't live in Arlington. Overlee, Dominion Hills and Arlington Forest are all a 3-year minimom. It took my friends 6 years to get into Overlee.

Chesterbrook is just as long*.




*for most people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlists are not years long in all areas. Our area has a lot of military, so even at our area's highly ranked pool there is no wait list or you can get in with the August memberships after military move for the summer.

I have not heard of a single pool in our entire area where wait lists are long.

Well, then you don't live in Arlington. Overlee, Dominion Hills and Arlington Forest are all a 3-year minimom. It took my friends 6 years to get into Overlee.

If you're serious about swimming, and really just a comfortable swim club environment, join Overlee. Dominion Hills is for those people who can't really afford Overlee; the McKinley and Ashlawn 3-bedroom brick colonial types. Arlington Forest is for the people who bought right by Route 50 and bend over backwards trying to convince themselves, that, really, Barrett and then Kenmore then Wakefield is really just as good a track as Jamestown-Williamsburg-Yorktown

If Arlington County were smart (that is, if the Fisettes and Cristols would go away), they would stop the stupid Long Bridge swim project. They'd be much better served giving the money to Overlee to build a retractable roof and temporary heaters so that their A swimmers could practice year-round without paying for Marymount access or fighting through the masses at the high schools.

[Anonymous]

Don't be disgusting. Obvious troll. Dominion Hills is not for people who can't afford Overlee.

In my experience, most of the kids who are members there are at Tuckahoe. The next biggest population is McKinley, followed by Nottingham and Glebe. That is not a surprise since those neighborhoods are all within 1/2 mile of the pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What teams have more than 3 swimmers in an event with all star times? Is this Division A?

A, B, C, D & E that I know of. Depends on the age group/sex, but yes.

Lots in A.

This is not true if you are in MCSL. I just looked at the results for various divisions.

We've swam in MCPL A and C. Swimmers with all star times swimming b meets is very uncommon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What teams have more than 3 swimmers in an event with all star times? Is this Division A?

A, B, C, D & E that I know of. Depends on the age group/sex, but yes.

Lots in A.

This is not true if you are in MCSL. I just looked at the results for various divisions.

We've swam in MCPL A and C. Swimmers with all star times swimming b meets is very uncommon.

Not the PP, and I assume you meant MCSL, but I've seen the same thing in our B meets. There were a lot of all star times in B meets this year-several per meet. We're in a middle division.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What teams have more than 3 swimmers in an event with all star times? Is this Division A?

A, B, C, D & E that I know of. Depends on the age group/sex, but yes.

Lots in A.

This is not true if you are in MCSL. I just looked at the results for various divisions.

We've swam in MCPL A and C. Swimmers with all star times swimming b meets is very uncommon.

Not the PP, and I assume you meant MCSL, but I've seen the same thing in our B meets. There were a lot of all star times in B meets this year-several per meet. We're in a middle division.

You sure they're not swimming exhibition? You all must have some seriously deep teams to have 7+ freestyle all star times per group and 4+ in other strokes. That just hasn't been our experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlists are not years long in all areas. Our area has a lot of military, so even at our area's highly ranked pool there is no wait list or you can get in with the August memberships after military move for the summer.

I have not heard of a single pool in our entire area where wait lists are long.

Well, then you don't live in Arlington. Overlee, Dominion Hills and Arlington Forest are all a 3-year minimom. It took my friends 6 years to get into Overlee.

If you're serious about swimming, and really just a comfortable swim club environment, join Overlee. Dominion Hills is for those people who can't really afford Overlee; the McKinley and Ashlawn 3-bedroom brick colonial types. Arlington Forest is for the people who bought right by Route 50 and bend over backwards trying to convince themselves, that, really, Barrett and then Kenmore then Wakefield is really just as good a track as Jamestown-Williamsburg-Yorktown

If Arlington County were smart (that is, if the Fisettes and Cristols would go away), they would stop the stupid Long Bridge swim project. They'd be much better served giving the money to Overlee to build a retractable roof and temporary heaters so that their A swimmers could practice year-round without paying for Marymount access or fighting through the masses at the high schools.

LOL. This made me giggle. What's your take on Donaldson Run and the McLean teams?