Extended year for 11 schools. Is this a pilot for the rest of the schools?

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS is desperate. They are trying anything and everything except the obvious...the inclusion classrooms DON'T WORK! It's a stupid idea. Take the really at risk kids and give them the services they need so that everyone, including at risk kids can get the damned education that they deserve!

We don't need an extended school year. We need a system that works instead of this sad veneer of success over a rotten infrastructure.


They are following the model that's been successfully done at charters with similar populations (DC Prep and Kipp, to name a couple).

Also I think you need to look up what inclusion means - it has NOTHING to do with at-risk kids.


Not the PP but I disagree with this post.

In DCPS most of the inclusion students are indeed at-risk and they severely compromise everyone else's education. Many bring horrible, anti-sociable behaviors into the class with them.

And while the extended year model may have been done with similar populations, I'm willing to bet those students don't exhibit behaviors similar to those in DCPS. If they did, they'd be OUT!!!! I suspect there's more family support and administrative support for classroom teachers as well. They truly want to educate students and create an atmosphere in order for that to happen. All DCPS does is blame teachers for every bad behavior a student exhibits. Teachers were just told during a meeting at one school on Thursday that the reason the students come to class and cuss them out and challenge them to fight is.... Of course, teachers in that particular room had been cussed out and invited to rumble by the students. But were the students punished? No, because according to DCPS lore, it's the teachers' fault. Forgot the fact that these were new teachers (the turnover is serious) and those same kids had been behaving that way long before these teachers arrived. I can't imagine those successful charters would allow that type of behavior, much less justify it.

Soooooooo

An extended year in a DCPS school will mean more fights, more anti-sociable behaviors and more failing and/or passing kids along who won't be able to write a paragraph once they've graduated.


Are you the DCPS teacher who posted earlier, or another DCPS teacher? I wonder what skin you have in the game. It sounds like you are a DCPS teacher at a school that will have extended year next year, so I'd imagine that you are familiar with the summer learning loss, which affects students from all income levels if they do not read over the summer holiday but affects low income students more profoundly than their middle- or high-income peers. Summer is a hard time for low income parents because camp is expensive, particularly in this area. While summer holiday sounds like an idyllic enrichment time of swimming and family time, for a lot of kids in DC, that isn't what happens. Some go to day camp where they may do art projects and go to parks, but many will stay home by themselves or with an older relative or friend, unsupervised.

Based on your description, it sounds like you consider summer to be a time when you get a break from your students. What about what the students need?


At what point will DC(PS) hold parents accountable?????

I'm very familiar with summer learning loss which is why as a PARENT I ensured my children were engaged.

I'm also familiar with the dysfunctional BS that goes on in DC schools that is NOT teaching or learning due to the system's refusal to create & enforce appropriate school behaviors. Extra days of dysfunction is a waste of time.

And no I'm not a DC teacher at a school moving to extended year. Just a realistic person.
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The anti inclusion poster hurts my heart. You do understand that kids do not have to shuttered away just because you don't like seeing special education students.

They have a legal right to what you are denying them.

If inclusion is not working at your school get on to the admin. There are teachers who should be in the room supporting the students. But please- stop spewing isolationists garbage.
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It not special ed students I'm talking about. It's children with behavioral problems in the extrame. they are the ones who need separate classes
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Then why are they only doing it for low performing schools?

Cost, for one thing. But if it is best educationally why aren't parents of high performing students demanding it? Tradition?
Hmm, I feel as if we've had this conversation before on here. Because affluent families want their children to be well-rounded so they send them to summer camp and other programs.
Anonymous
DCPS did a terrible job rolling this out so far. They didn't get any input from parents, community members, or teachers. I work at a DCPS school that is on the list and the teachers are upset. High turnover in any year but it will be higher than usual.
Anonymous
How did these schools do on PARCC?
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Anonymous wrote:How did these schools do on PARCC?


According to one of the media stories, they had bigger gains than the traditional schedule schools.
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Anonymous wrote:How did these schools do on PARCC?


According to one of the media stories, they had bigger gains than the traditional schedule schools.


Two 2015-16 Extended School year schools were Raymond and HD Cooke. Both schools are predominantly Latino students with more than 40% ELL. The PARCC results were:

HD Cooke

2014-15: 8% ELA/17% Math
2015-16: 17% ELA/34% Math

Raymond PARCC

2014-15: 16% ELA/13% Math
2015-16: 22% ELA/16% Math
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did these schools do on PARCC?


According to one of the media stories, they had bigger gains than the traditional schedule schools.


Two 2015-16 Extended School year schools were Raymond and HD Cooke. Both schools are predominantly Latino students with more than 40% ELL. The PARCC results were:

HD Cooke

2014-15: 8% ELA/17% Math
2015-16: 17% ELA/34% Math

Raymond PARCC

2014-15: 16% ELA/13% Math
2015-16: 22% ELA/16% Math


I'm completely confused. I thought HD Cooke was starting the extended year this year for the first time in 2016-2017.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did these schools do on PARCC?


According to one of the media stories, they had bigger gains than the traditional schedule schools.


Two 2015-16 Extended School year schools were Raymond and HD Cooke. Both schools are predominantly Latino students with more than 40% ELL. The PARCC results were:

HD Cooke

2014-15: 8% ELA/17% Math
2015-16: 17% ELA/34% Math

Raymond PARCC

2014-15: 16% ELA/13% Math
2015-16: 22% ELA/16% Math


I'm completely confused. I thought HD Cooke was starting the extended year this year for the first time in 2016-2017.


Sorry - yes. They were piloting extended school day, not year.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:How did these schools do on PARCC?


According to one of the media stories, they had bigger gains than the traditional schedule schools.


If that's the case, perhaps this will become a bigger trend in DC? I'm game for whatever works! I love the idea of having a week off in fall and I'd be willing to give up several weeks of summer vacation to make that happen! also it does seem like this could really help the achievement gap- I understand that FARMs kids are generally "harmed" more by the long summer break than non-FARMs kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did these schools do on PARCC?


According to one of the media stories, they had bigger gains than the traditional schedule schools.


If that's the case, perhaps this will become a bigger trend in DC? I'm game for whatever works! I love the idea of having a week off in fall and I'd be willing to give up several weeks of summer vacation to make that happen! also it does seem like this could really help the achievement gap- I understand that FARMs kids are generally "harmed" more by the long summer break than non-FARMs kids.


It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. I am pretty sure the WOTP schools would reject this set up vehemently, so I do hope they do this on a school-by-school basis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did these schools do on PARCC?


According to one of the media stories, they had bigger gains than the traditional schedule schools.


If that's the case, perhaps this will become a bigger trend in DC? I'm game for whatever works! I love the idea of having a week off in fall and I'd be willing to give up several weeks of summer vacation to make that happen! also it does seem like this could really help the achievement gap- I understand that FARMs kids are generally "harmed" more by the long summer break than non-FARMs kids.


My hunch is it won't expand beyond the 10-12 schools implementing this for 2016-17 until at least 2018-19 just because we're without a chancellor. Exanding further would have significant budgetary impact, and may not be something that can or shoudl be expanded until we have a new teachers' contract. This is probably for the best -- they need more data to see whether it is, in fact, making a difference.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did these schools do on PARCC?


According to one of the media stories, they had bigger gains than the traditional schedule schools.


If that's the case, perhaps this will become a bigger trend in DC? I'm game for whatever works! I love the idea of having a week off in fall and I'd be willing to give up several weeks of summer vacation to make that happen! also it does seem like this could really help the achievement gap- I understand that FARMs kids are generally "harmed" more by the long summer break than non-FARMs kids.


It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. I am pretty sure the WOTP schools would reject this set up vehemently, so I do hope they do this on a school-by-school basis.


How unequal would that be! All the extended year schools EOTP and all regular day schools WOTP?! The optics would be awful for the chancellor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did these schools do on PARCC?


According to one of the media stories, they had bigger gains than the traditional schedule schools.


If that's the case, perhaps this will become a bigger trend in DC? I'm game for whatever works! I love the idea of having a week off in fall and I'd be willing to give up several weeks of summer vacation to make that happen! also it does seem like this could really help the achievement gap- I understand that FARMs kids are generally "harmed" more by the long summer break than non-FARMs kids.


It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. I am pretty sure the WOTP schools would reject this set up vehemently, so I do hope they do this on a school-by-school basis.


How unequal would that be! All the extended year schools EOTP and all regular day schools WOTP?! The optics would be awful for the chancellor.


The optics aren't really different than the way they rolled out PK3 to the most in-need / at-risk schools first.

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