Affirmative Action and Race Discussions Should Be Moved to Its Own Forum

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POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

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So I'm close to 50. I can remember reading about the Bakke case in 8th grade Civics class. How long does affirmative action go on? It used to be a correction for institutional discrimination, but that's been gone for 40 years. Then it became a method for creating diversity. And now it's morphing into a correction for 'white privilege'. Where and when does it end? Because children in school today (my white, male kids) can be discriminated against and it's ok. And they are being indoctrinated with this white privilege stuff to convince them that if they are not racist, then they are the beneficiaries of racism. It's crazy.

I would say that probably since there was approximately 250 years of slavery followed by another 100 or so years of discriminatory practices and laws, it is really unsurprisingly that affirmative action is necessary for longer than 40 years.

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

That's certainly what I've observed in the professional world. It's a huge advantage to be a POC.

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

That's certainly what I've observed in the professional world. It's a huge advantage to be a POC.

Yes, that's exactly why all the executives on Wall Street are all POC. And that includes middle and lower management also, all POC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

What perceived challenges is your son having?

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

That's certainly what I've observed in the professional world. It's a huge advantage to be a POC.

Yes, that's exactly why all the executives on Wall Street are all POC. And that includes middle and lower management also, all POC.

Maybe they are not there because they don't qualify.

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

That's certainly what I've observed in the professional world. It's a huge advantage to be a POC.

Yes, that's exactly why all the executives on Wall Street are all POC. And that includes middle and lower management also, all POC.

Maybe they are not there because they don't qualify.

Well so which is it? If unqualified POC are stealing positions and opportunities willy nilly, why aren't they represented in upper level positions?

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

That's certainly what I've observed in the professional world. It's a huge advantage to be a POC.

Yes, that's exactly why all the executives on Wall Street are all POC. And that includes middle and lower management also, all POC.

Maybe they are not there because they don't qualify.

Well so which is it? If unqualified POC are stealing positions and opportunities willy nilly, why aren't they represented in upper level positions?

Because providing opportunities is one thing, actually getting there is another.

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So I'm close to 50. I can remember reading about the Bakke case in 8th grade Civics class. How long does affirmative action go on? It used to be a correction for institutional discrimination, but that's been gone for 40 years. Then it became a method for creating diversity. And now it's morphing into a correction for 'white privilege'. Where and when does it end? Because children in school today (my white, male kids) can be discriminated against and it's ok. And they are being indoctrinated with this white privilege stuff to convince them that if they are not racist, then they are the beneficiaries of racism. It's crazy.

I would say that probably since there was approximately 250 years of slavery followed by another 100 or so years of discriminatory practices and laws, it is really unsurprisingly that affirmative action is necessary for longer than 40 years.

And what do you say to the white or Asian child born in 2000 as they get ready to apply to college, who see the door swing wide for URM's but not for them? There are only so many spots in each school/office/institution. For one person to be favored based on race, another must be disfavored. Wouldn't a colorblind meritocracy be better for everyone?

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

That's certainly what I've observed in the professional world. It's a huge advantage to be a POC.

Yes, that's exactly why all the executives on Wall Street are all POC. And that includes middle and lower management also, all POC.

Maybe they are not there because they don't qualify.

Bingo. You'll have POC in government jobs because they've turned into a jobs program, but companies that actually need to compete will continue to hire the best they can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

What's the difference between "person of color" and "colored person"? I thought it was impolite to say the latter, but we're essentially back to the same old term! Political correctness seems a bit like an animal chasing its tail -- it comes full circle.

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

That's certainly what I've observed in the professional world. It's a huge advantage to be a POC.

Yes, that's exactly why all the executives on Wall Street are all POC. And that includes middle and lower management also, all POC.

Maybe they are not there because they don't qualify.

And maybe they aren't as big of cutthroat thieves as the ones who are there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

What's the difference between "person of color" and "colored person"? I thought it was impolite to say the latter, but we're essentially back to the same old term! Political correctness seems a bit like an animal chasing its tail -- it comes full circle.

not PC yesterday, is PC today... PC today, is not PC tomorrow...

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

That's certainly what I've observed in the professional world. It's a huge advantage to be a POC.

Yes, that's exactly why all the executives on Wall Street are all POC. And that includes middle and lower management also, all POC.

Maybe they are not there because they don't qualify.

And maybe they aren't as big of cutthroat thieves as the ones who are there.

No, that's not it.

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Anonymous wrote:POC have it easier? Are you listening to yourself! Really? Maybe you should walk a day in my son's shoes.

What's the difference between "person of color" and "colored person"? I thought it was impolite to say the latter, but we're essentially back to the same old term! Political correctness seems a bit like an animal chasing its tail -- it comes full circle.

I doubt you have the nerve or the cojones to call someone colored to their face. Of course, very brave when posting anonymously. So much for your full circle hypothesis.