Sanders is the real feminist in this race
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Anonymous
| As soon as people start defaulting to "mansplain" just because there's a man in the conversation, we've gone in the wrong direction. |
Anonymous
Thanks for this...my sister worked for PP for many years, sometimes risking her life to do so. She hasn't worked there for a while, but she was still very moved by the attack in Colorado last year, and it brought back a lot of old emotions for her. Planned Parenthood does amazing work, under near-constant attack both verbally and all-too-often physically as well. To simply dismiss their views as irrelevant simply because they are large enough to have some clout with progressives and self-interested enough to factor in things like whether they think a candidate can effectively support their interests if elected is a slap in the face to anyone who is actually concerned about how policies impact people today. I learned the hard way when I came to DC as a naive Hill staffer not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good policywise; and that effectiveness is about way more than ideology. |
Anonymous
This is my favorite Bernie Bro meme. Because nothing says "we need a man in the White House" like rippling muscles and a WWII propaganda poster. 
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te=Anonymous]Yeah, sorry, his lumping Planned Parenthood into the "Establishment" was the final straw against him for me. They are and have been the stalwart against anti-choice attacks. Economic issues are obviously enormously important, but if I don't have the right to dictate what happens with my body, what do I have? And he just sort of waved away its importance. That's not what he said. He was explaining PP's support of the establishment candidate and defending his own record. |
Anonymous
It's very lazy to toss around "Bernie Bro" instead of talking about real things. |
Anonymous
He didn't wave away the importance of PP. You are completely ignoring the context of his comment. PP is going to support the Dem Establishment candidate. That's undeniable. He didn't imply PP isn't significant; he implied endorsements aren't really significant because any group that lobbies Congress is going to voice support for the party establishment pick. If anything, his comment was less about PP specifically and more about the ridiculous game of endorsements. Endorsements aren't usually based on an objective view of which candidate is better. They are made out of political self-interest. No one is going to bet on the underdog -- even if the underdog is the better pick -- because they don't want to be alienated when the establishment pick, as expected, gets the nomination. There's a reason Warren hasn't endorsed anyone. I think it's because Clinton isn't exactly her preference, but she knows she'd be alienating herself if she came out in support of Sanders. That's the game. I actually respect Warren for just kind of keeping quiet during the primary and not overtly supporting either candidate. She's trying to balance survival as a politician with being true to the principles she originally ran on. It's why I give little credence to endorsements. I suspect a lot of them are products of backroom negotiations and quid pro quo promises. But no one will ever come out and admit that. And that's exactly the nonsense I think a lot of people are frustrated with. It's one thing when these kinds of handshakes are made between politicians. It's worse when they are made between lobbyists and politicians. I think this entire election cycle is evidence that some people are kind of tired of the feeling that a group of political elite run the country in a manner that isn't at all transparent and that often is determined by individual career self interest and less about the needs of the constituents. |
Anonymous
| Where is the "mansplain" accusation coming from? Isn't the author of the linked article a woman? |
Anonymous
Exactly. OP is a 47 year old woman with multiple degrees, some of which are in women's studies so those comments are just silly. |
Anonymous
Why do you care?! Someone thought it would look cool. Make or commission your own of Hillary looking awesome with rippling muscles or with a super intelligent look on her face or whatever sort of idea you want to get across. This happens to be my favorite Bernie meme: 
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Anonymous
Exactly. It's because people are saying Bernie is a good feminist and Hillary supporters are saying that can't possibly be... they don't want Bernie to mainsplain feminism to them. Or something like that. 
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Anonymous
Ftr, I'm the pp you quoted and I'm a Hillary supporter. |
Anonymous
No. OP said Bernie is the "real" feminist. Eye rolls to the high heavens. |
Anonymous
His full quote is here. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bernie-sanders-takes-risky-shot-the-establishment No, it definitely looks like he's being dismissive out of hurt pride. |
Anonymous
Congratulations, I too am an educated adult woman who doesn't need someone to "inform" me who the "real" feminist is, vying to be the Democratic presidential nominee. It's cheap and condescending. If you want to have a real conversation, try starting one. |
Anonymous
Okay, let the record show... |