What is happening during the month between lottery close and results being posted?

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Anonymous wrote:Is straight up patronage cheating possible? I don't live in DC. My ex is friends with the wife of the head of the school board where we live. Ex asked me if he should ask this person for a favor to get our kid into one of the highly rated charters. I said NO because: 1) it's wrong 2) I don't want to be caught up in a future scandal 3) I like our neighborhood school. Now my kid is part of the 6% admitted to the charter. Am I paranoid to think something shady could have happened?

It could happen during the school year, after the waitlists are handed back to the schools to manage. Esp once you can't see the WLs anymore just prior to the lottery application opening for the following school year.

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Anonymous wrote:Is straight up patronage cheating possible? I don't live in DC. My ex is friends with the wife of the head of the school board where we live. Ex asked me if he should ask this person for a favor to get our kid into one of the highly rated charters. I said NO because: 1) it's wrong 2) I don't want to be caught up in a future scandal 3) I like our neighborhood school. Now my kid is part of the 6% admitted to the charter. Am I paranoid to think something shady could have happened?

Wouldn't happen at our HRC.

I've heard of 2 senior Obama administration officials getting their children into 2 different WOTP DCPS elementaries as OOB students outside of the lottery via the Chancellor.

Chancellor has enormous discretion. The above example would be unfortunate if true, but the principals pretty much have to take anyone the Chancellor's office insists on placing. You'd like to think it's a case of bullying or special needs and not just blatant patronage. No way to verify above claim which is nothing more than rumor

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Anonymous wrote:So, it sounds like entering the lottery twice is ancient history and a complete distraction on this thread.

I'm not sure I understand why you think double entrants no longer exist. It's easy.

How would you enter twice?

use different emails to create the MySchoolDC records. Use slightly different names (son is Jonathan, enter one record as "Jonathan" and another as "John"). Enter one record using the child's DCPS number (if they have one) but not for the other entry. Use different parents for each entry. Enter two different birthdates (a day apart...you can later claim that you just mistyped).

Geez, this never even occurred to me. Who would be depraved enough to do that?

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Anonymous wrote:Fenty . . .

That was in 2009. A lot has changed since then.

Yea, I wouldn't want to risk trying to cheat, getting caught and having my child excluded from the lottery or from school. I bet My School DC catches a bunch of these scenarios.

This is t how cheaters think. They know there aren't real consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it sounds like entering the lottery twice is ancient history and a complete distraction on this thread.

I'm not sure I understand why you think double entrants no longer exist. It's easy.

How would you enter twice?

use different emails to create the MySchoolDC records. Use slightly different names (son is Jonathan, enter one record as "Jonathan" and another as "John"). Enter one record using the child's DCPS number (if they have one) but not for the other entry. Use different parents for each entry. Enter two different birthdates (a day apart...you can later claim that you just mistyped).

Geez, this never even occurred to me. Who would be depraved enough to do that?

You'd probably want to use different IP addresses as well.

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Anonymous wrote:MySchoolDC is supposed to be checking all applicants to affirm claimed preferences, checking for children with multiple applications (mom enters one and dad enters one to double chances) and to the extent possible (through google map searches, etc) check addresses for inboundary claims.

They also have to check and recheck that their algorithm worked (i.e. If someone was matched to a school were they dropped from all the schools ranked behind that school? We're children only matched with one school?).

When you enter your address in the application, the system knows what address you are in-bound for and marks you as such if you apply to that school. In-bound preference is not something you can select yourself in the application.

That's assuming you're entering your own address...

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Anonymous wrote:MySchoolDC is supposed to be checking all applicants to affirm claimed preferences, checking for children with multiple applications (mom enters one and dad enters one to double chances) and to the extent possible (through google map searches, etc) check addresses for inboundary claims.

They also have to check and recheck that their algorithm worked (i.e. If someone was matched to a school were they dropped from all the schools ranked behind that school? We're children only matched with one school?).

When you enter your address in the application, the system knows what address you are in-bound for and marks you as such if you apply to that school. In-bound preference is not something you can select yourself in the application.

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Well you need to be able to prove the address you enter if you are matched.

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Anonymous wrote:So, it sounds like entering the lottery twice is ancient history and a complete distraction on this thread.

I'm not sure I understand why you think double entrants no longer exist. It's easy.

How would you enter twice?

use different emails to create the MySchoolDC records. Use slightly different names (son is Jonathan, enter one record as "Jonathan" and another as "John"). Enter one record using the child's DCPS number (if they have one) but not for the other entry. Use different parents for each entry. Enter two different birthdates (a day apart...you can later claim that you just mistyped).

Which is a major reason why MSDC needs a month before they can run the lottery. They need to clean up the data.

Yep. Agreed. I'm the PP who listed all these examples of the way people can cheat. I never have. But I've tracked the lottery for the last 7 years and I've seen so much cheating revealed by the data.

I call BS. One, no way to see the data anymore, they don't publish it. Two, over 7 years the changes are so dramatic that it would be like comparing apples to a gorilla. Are you so bored and desperate for attention that you make things up on an anonymous board????!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Is straight up patronage cheating possible? I don't live in DC. My ex is friends with the wife of the head of the school board where we live. Ex asked me if he should ask this person for a favor to get our kid into one of the highly rated charters. I said NO because: 1) it's wrong 2) I don't want to be caught up in a future scandal 3) I like our neighborhood school. Now my kid is part of the 6% admitted to the charter. Am I paranoid to think something shady could have happened?

It could happen during the school year, after the waitlists are handed back to the schools to manage. Esp once you can't see the WLs anymore just prior to the lottery application opening for the following school year.

Central kept those waitlists for a very long time last year. To their credit.