What is happening during the month between lottery close and results being posted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The double application is always fun.

I used to pull the lottery for our charter. It was not uncommon to see the same person entered 2 times. I am more cynical than the school. The school always gave the person the benefit if the doubt and would pull the lower result. I would think it would be more fair to either put them at the end of the list as a result of trying to game the system OR putting both #s back in the hat and selecting the one that stays.

Soooo... you're saying that's an effective technique? Enter twice, plead ignorance if caught...

At our HRC you have to actually identify the sibling by name and grade, you can't just claim it blindly.

DCPS asks for this info when you apply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The double application is always fun.

I used to pull the lottery for our charter. It was not uncommon to see the same person entered 2 times. I am more cynical than the school. The school always gave the person the benefit if the doubt and would pull the lower result. I would think it would be more fair to either put them at the end of the list as a result of trying to game the system OR putting both #s back in the hat and selecting the one that stays.

Soooo... you're saying that's an effective technique? Enter twice, plead ignorance if caught...

At our HRC you have to actually identify the sibling by name and grade, you can't just claim it blindly.

DCPS asks for this info when you apply.

Common lottery does too - lots on this thread predating common lottery

[Anonymous]

So, it sounds like entering the lottery twice is ancient history and a complete distraction on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, it sounds like entering the lottery twice is ancient history and a complete distraction on this thread.

I'm not sure I understand why you think double entrants no longer exist. It's easy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, it sounds like entering the lottery twice is ancient history and a complete distraction on this thread.

I'm not sure I understand why you think double entrants no longer exist. It's easy.

How would you enter twice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it sounds like entering the lottery twice is ancient history and a complete distraction on this thread.

I'm not sure I understand why you think double entrants no longer exist. It's easy.

How would you enter twice?

use different emails to create the MySchoolDC records. Use slightly different names (son is Jonathan, enter one record as "Jonathan" and another as "John"). Enter one record using the child's DCPS number (if they have one) but not for the other entry. Use different parents for each entry. Enter two different birthdates (a day apart...you can later claim that you just mistyped).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it sounds like entering the lottery twice is ancient history and a complete distraction on this thread.

I'm not sure I understand why you think double entrants no longer exist. It's easy.

How would you enter twice?

use different emails to create the MySchoolDC records. Use slightly different names (son is Jonathan, enter one record as "Jonathan" and another as "John"). Enter one record using the child's DCPS number (if they have one) but not for the other entry. Use different parents for each entry. Enter two different birthdates (a day apart...you can later claim that you just mistyped).

Which is a major reason why MSDC needs a month before they can run the lottery. They need to clean up the data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, it sounds like entering the lottery twice is ancient history and a complete distraction on this thread.

I'm not sure I understand why you think double entrants no longer exist. It's easy.

How would you enter twice?

use different emails to create the MySchoolDC records. Use slightly different names (son is Jonathan, enter one record as "Jonathan" and another as "John"). Enter one record using the child's DCPS number (if they have one) but not for the other entry. Use different parents for each entry. Enter two different birthdates (a day apart...you can later claim that you just mistyped).

Which is a major reason why MSDC needs a month before they can run the lottery. They need to clean up the data.

Yep. Agreed. I'm the PP who listed all these examples of the way people can cheat. I never have. But I've tracked the lottery for the last 7 years and I've seen so much cheating revealed by the data.

[Anonymous]

Is straight up patronage cheating possible? I don't live in DC. My ex is friends with the wife of the head of the school board where we live. Ex asked me if he should ask this person for a favor to get our kid into one of the highly rated charters. I said NO because: 1) it's wrong 2) I don't want to be caught up in a future scandal 3) I like our neighborhood school. Now my kid is part of the 6% admitted to the charter. Am I paranoid to think something shady could have happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is straight up patronage cheating possible? I don't live in DC. My ex is friends with the wife of the head of the school board where we live. Ex asked me if he should ask this person for a favor to get our kid into one of the highly rated charters. I said NO because: 1) it's wrong 2) I don't want to be caught up in a future scandal 3) I like our neighborhood school. Now my kid is part of the 6% admitted to the charter. Am I paranoid to think something shady could have happened?

Wouldn't happen at our HRC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is straight up patronage cheating possible? I don't live in DC. My ex is friends with the wife of the head of the school board where we live. Ex asked me if he should ask this person for a favor to get our kid into one of the highly rated charters. I said NO because: 1) it's wrong 2) I don't want to be caught up in a future scandal 3) I like our neighborhood school. Now my kid is part of the 6% admitted to the charter. Am I paranoid to think something shady could have happened?

Wouldn't happen at our HRC.

I've heard of 2 senior Obama administration officials getting their children into 2 different WOTP DCPS elementaries as OOB students outside of the lottery via the Chancellor.

[Anonymous]

Fenty . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fenty . . .

That was in 2009. A lot has changed since then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fenty . . .

That was in 2009. A lot has changed since then.

Yea, I wouldn't want to risk trying to cheat, getting caught and having my child excluded from the lottery or from school. I bet My School DC catches a bunch of these scenarios.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MySchoolDC is supposed to be checking all applicants to affirm claimed preferences, checking for children with multiple applications (mom enters one and dad enters one to double chances) and to the extent possible (through google map searches, etc) check addresses for inboundary claims.

They also have to check and recheck that their algorithm worked (i.e. If someone was matched to a school were they dropped from all the schools ranked behind that school? We're children only matched with one school?).

When you enter your address in the application, the system knows what address you are in-bound for and marks you as such if you apply to that school. In-bound preference is not something you can select yourself in the application.