Oberlin

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Anonymous wrote:^Seriously? They earn advanced degrees in order to have accomplished careers, as a step toward being even more gainfully employed.

While that's true it's still something to be aware of. I would assume that many of these liberal arts degrees aren't getting them hired out of college or even aware of a career path that pays the bills. a parent should definitely be aware that oberlin equals grad degree required for job.

I am not sure what your purpose is here but I would suggest that the OP not put much stock in your odd opinion of Oberlin. Many people continue grade school pursuits including those from non-SLACs.

I commented because a pp said most graduates go onto grad school instead of getting a job. That's a big deal. Guarantee you the MIT grads are getting job offers.

I'm the PP to whom you're responding. First of all, I said most Oberlin alums whom I know went on to grad school. That's not the same as saying that most alums go to grad school. I would have no basis to say that. If you're suggesting this is the case, can you offer some evidence? Additionally, can you offer evidence comparing Oberlin to other liberal arts colleges -- because that would be the relevant comparison, not a comparison with an engineering school.

Furthermore, with regard to engineering, my son is an engineering student, so I know that most engineers get jobs right after graduation. That's because engineering is essentially a professional degree. That said, some engineering students go directly into graduate programs in engineering because they're primarily interested in research and teaching. Additionally, after a few years of employment in the engineering field many engineers pursue graduate degrees in a range of programs.

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Oberlin BAs seem not to thrive immediately after graduation. According to http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors, their average salary is just $41k. Maybe they are doing social work or teaching?

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If your kid is rich, from NYC and has a heroin problem, he/she will fit right in. Enjoy.

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Oberlin's most redeeming quality is that Michelle Malkin is a graduate.

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A neighbor's kid went to Oberlin and dropped out after one semester. She was wealthy, spoiled and didn't want to work very hard, so she came home where she was pampered.

I've always considered it a top SLAC in the midwest, fwiw. Good music school. Tends to be liberal, good academics. I know of some other kids who went there -- crunchy, individualistic, smart kids. Not for preppies, but a laid-back vibe, I'm told.

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I know 2 kids there now -- both have lefty politics, girl did poetry slams, boy was an athlete. Both are really nice, smart, down-to-earth kids (from different parts of the US). Parents are lawyers and academics (but that may be more about whom I know than about Oberlin's demographics.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Seriously? They earn advanced degrees in order to have accomplished careers, as a step toward being even more gainfully employed.

While that's true it's still something to be aware of. I would assume that many of these liberal arts degrees aren't getting them hired out of college or even aware of a career path that pays the bills. a parent should definitely be aware that oberlin equals grad degree required for job.

I am not sure what your purpose is here but I would suggest that the OP not put much stock in your odd opinion of Oberlin. Many people continue grade school pursuits including those from non-SLACs.

I commented because a pp said most graduates go onto grad school instead of getting a job. That's a big deal. Guarantee you the MIT grads are getting job offers.

I'm the PP to whom you're responding. First of all, I said most Oberlin alums whom I know went on to grad school. That's not the same as saying that most alums go to grad school. I would have no basis to say that. If you're suggesting this is the case, can you offer some evidence? Additionally, can you offer evidence comparing Oberlin to other liberal arts colleges -- because that would be the relevant comparison, not a comparison with an engineering school.

Furthermore, with regard to engineering, my son is an engineering student, so I know that most engineers get jobs right after graduation. That's because engineering is essentially a professional degree. That said, some engineering students go directly into graduate programs in engineering because they're primarily interested in research and teaching. Additionally, after a few years of employment in the engineering field many engineers pursue graduate degrees in a range of programs.

Fair enough. But this post wasn't about oberlin vs other schools. It was about oberlin and it looks like it doesn't have a great track record for employment post graduation. I'm sure it's a fantastic school and yes it has a wonderful reputation. However my goal in going to college was to launch my career and I will have the same goal for my children. Therefore it's completely relevant to consider this when talking about oberli.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Oberlin. I loved it. Very quirky student body - in a good way. Very small town in the middle of nowhere but that didn't bother me. I went to law school after Oberlin.

Me too. And I am pretty conservative and as square as they come. None of my friends did drugs, but then again I spent a lot of time in the conservatory, which had more of a pre-professional atmosphere. If your kid is at all interested in music but wants a liberal arts education, it can't be beat.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Seriously? They earn advanced degrees in order to have accomplished careers, as a step toward being even more gainfully employed.

While that's true it's still something to be aware of. I would assume that many of these liberal arts degrees aren't getting them hired out of college or even aware of a career path that pays the bills. a parent should definitely be aware that oberlin equals grad degree required for job.

I am not sure what your purpose is here but I would suggest that the OP not put much stock in your odd opinion of Oberlin. Many people continue grade school pursuits including those from non-SLACs.

I commented because a pp said most graduates go onto grad school instead of getting a job. That's a big deal. Guarantee you the MIT grads are getting job offers.

I'm the PP to whom you're responding. First of all, I said most Oberlin alums whom I know went on to grad school. That's not the same as saying that most alums go to grad school. I would have no basis to say that. If you're suggesting this is the case, can you offer some evidence? Additionally, can you offer evidence comparing Oberlin to other liberal arts colleges -- because that would be the relevant comparison, not a comparison with an engineering school.

Furthermore, with regard to engineering, my son is an engineering student, so I know that most engineers get jobs right after graduation. That's because engineering is essentially a professional degree. That said, some engineering students go directly into graduate programs in engineering because they're primarily interested in research and teaching. Additionally, after a few years of employment in the engineering field many engineers pursue graduate degrees in a range of programs.

Fair enough. But this post wasn't about oberlin vs other schools. It was about oberlin and it looks like it doesn't have a great track record for employment post graduation. I'm sure it's a fantastic school and yes it has a wonderful reputation. However my goal in going to college was to launch my career and I will have the same goal for my children. Therefore it's completely relevant to consider this when talking about oberli.

Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, and other top SLAC all claim that over 70% of its graduates go to graduate schools within 5 years after graduation. Oberlin is 72%. It seems you are talking about a different class of undergraduate degrees, more professional, like engineering.

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Not in a million years would I ever make a decision about a school based on this forum. I don't think I've EVER seen a college on DCUM that might be worthy of compliment without a barrage of negative remarks followed by the inevitable vitriolic back and forth.

OP, the best way to get an idea is to visit, observe, talk to on campus students, and be very discriminating when reading 'reviews' anywhere, not just on DCUM.

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Oberlin would be one of my top choices for my daughter (she is only in 9th grade now though). I'm an academic and I've gone to lots of conferences there. Great students. Yes, it's liberal and pseudo hippy. It is also strong academically, creatively, and has an open and accepting culture.

My DC is smart, driven, outspoken, and quirky - to me that is a typical Oberlin student.

I imagine all of my kids will go on to grad school - so I'm okay with knowing that is their path. The good thing about Oberlin is that it gives them a better chance at getting $$ for grad school.

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Why do you think Oberlin increases $$ for grad school? Seems like professional schools make you pay (and people take out loans against future income) and PhD programs waive tuition, give students stipends, and expect them to TA and/or work as a research assistant to cover other expenses.
Is there some category of grad school where things work differently?

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My sister's fiancé went to the conservatory. He's extremely accomplished, and yes, did go on to earn a Ph.D. He's left-of-middle for the most part.

He had a terrific experience there.

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Anonymous wrote:Oberlin would be one of my top choices for my daughter (she is only in 9th grade now though).

So you're pretty much resigned to her not getting a decent-paying job, having tons of debt, and never reproducing, then?

(shrug) Well, whatever works for you...

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Anonymous wrote:Oberlin would be one of my top choices for my daughter (she is only in 9th grade now though).

So you're pretty much resigned to her not getting a decent-paying job, having tons of debt, and never reproducing, then?

(shrug) Well, whatever works for you...

This just might set a new low for the most hilariously narrow-minded post on DCUM.