United Technologies Moving U.S. Plant to Mexico

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised that: United Technologies is moving their Carrier Division to Mexico.United Technology Corporation and their divisions, have been the target of the Enviromental Protection Agency, since the late 60's.They all but closed their Pratt & Whitney Division of United Technologies down, along with other manufacturing and testing facilities, in the state of Conn. In the 60's, Pratt & Whitney Aircraft, East Hartford,Conn.employed some 75,000 employees. Their airport is gone and the massive buildings are now being mostly used for storage, with the exception of some 4,000 employees. One of many corporations across the U.S., that have succumb to the outrageous regulations of the E.P.A.All of this is part of a government Socialist agenda, to Re-Distribution wealth on a global scale. If one is a proponent of Social and Economic Equality, he/she supports the relocation of U.S. corporations.

Sure keep telling the republican establishment lies. This is why Trump does well. Its time to say no. If you want to move out of the USA, you will pay a lot to bring the produce back into the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:H1B visas- bring people in and we can see the children and grandchildren of prior H1B who are US citizens get snookered out of a job.

On another thread I commented that based on my experience if a person can work an iphone, laptop, etc they can work at a call center with training. Homeless due to jobless people in DC ? https://www.outsource2india.com/callcenter/site/

Low middle class income v no income? People moved from the south for manufacturing jobs in the north. Jobs gone.

Your kid didn't lose a job because an h1b is cheaper. He lost a job because he barely squeaked by in college and thinks an mcse certification erases that. Foreign born engineers are kicking our kids' butts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:H1B visas- bring people in and we can see the children and grandchildren of prior H1B who are US citizens get snookered out of a job.

On another thread I commented that based on my experience if a person can work an iphone, laptop, etc they can work at a call center with training. Homeless due to jobless people in DC ? https://www.outsource2india.com/callcenter/site/

Low middle class income v no income? People moved from the south for manufacturing jobs in the north. Jobs gone.

Your kid didn't lose a job because an h1b is cheaper. He lost a job because he barely squeaked by in college and thinks an mcse certification erases that. Foreign born engineers are kicking our kids' butts.

Not my child. H1B's are cheaper. Our country can and does produce engineers and tech people. And we would have more if financial aid and loans and grants were bumped up for our citizens MAJORING in STEM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will bet serious money that anyone in that video who has been on the fence about Trump, just fell his way. One thing for employees and families to relocate to another state, another out of the country. I personally wouldn't go, and I'd feel the same if the relocation was to England.

I've never been on the fence for Trump. I don't like the man, period. However, If I really thought he could do something and bring manufacturing jobs back to the stars, I would hold my nose, cross my fingers and toes, and withhold all my farts and vote for Trump. But we all know there's nothing he can do to bring those jobs back, right

[Anonymous]

And ex-pats everywhere are grateful beyond belief that you will stay in your parochial, insular cocoon. Attitudes like this damage our reputation as people worldwide and it's good that you won't spread your joy.

And you are undoubtedly a blue collar worker who has transferred to another country in order to work on the assembly line?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:H1B visas- bring people in and we can see the children and grandchildren of prior H1B who are US citizens get snookered out of a job.

On another thread I commented that based on my experience if a person can work an iphone, laptop, etc they can work at a call center with training. Homeless due to jobless people in DC ? https://www.outsource2india.com/callcenter/site/

Low middle class income v no income? People moved from the south for manufacturing jobs in the north. Jobs gone.

Your kid didn't lose a job because an h1b is cheaper. He lost a job because he barely squeaked by in college and thinks an mcse certification erases that. Foreign born engineers are kicking our kids' butts.

Yes because all school funding is going to Hispanic children (with legal or illegal parents) money that could have gone to African American and other children. The American education system is in dire straits due to Obama's policy's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:H1B visas- bring people in and we can see the children and grandchildren of prior H1B who are US citizens get snookered out of a job.

On another thread I commented that based on my experience if a person can work an iphone, laptop, etc they can work at a call center with training. Homeless due to jobless people in DC ? https://www.outsource2india.com/callcenter/site/

Low middle class income v no income? People moved from the south for manufacturing jobs in the north. Jobs gone.

Your kid didn't lose a job because an h1b is cheaper. He lost a job because he barely squeaked by in college and thinks an mcse certification erases that. Foreign born engineers are kicking our kids' butts.

Not my child. H1B's are cheaper. Our country can and does produce engineers and tech people. And we would have more if financial aid and loans and grants were bumped up for our citizens MAJORING in STEM.

H1Bs are cheaper. But that said it often ends up costing as much because a lot of the foreign born engineers are like a one-trick-pony - they may have technical expertise but it is very narrow and they have very few skills beyond that - plus poor communication skills. Plus, there's often also a lot of other corner-cutting that goes along with it, as opposed to conscientiousness and due dilligence.

I think we need to set up systems for total transparency. I think we should make generous provisions for work visas of all kinds (including for construction/hospitality/ag workers from Mexico and Central America) but the entire process should be done via an online website, where companies have to fully justify and advertise every position that they are interested in filling using foreign labor, where companies would compete against each other for foreign workers through wages and benefits, where American workers would have an opportunity and right of first refusal to get those jobs. Similarly, if an American company plans to offshore, I think there should be a full and complete and transparent online justification provided so that American communities and workers can have the first shot at retaining those companies. If it's a matter of something like moving to save a dollar an hour in labor costs or to circumvent some environmental regulation, it should be flat-out refused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised that: United Technologies is moving their Carrier Division to Mexico.United Technology Corporation and their divisions, have been the target of the Enviromental Protection Agency, since the late 60's.They all but closed their Pratt & Whitney Division of United Technologies down, along with other manufacturing and testing facilities, in the state of Conn. In the 60's, Pratt & Whitney Aircraft, East Hartford,Conn.employed some 75,000 employees. Their airport is gone and the massive buildings are now being mostly used for storage, with the exception of some 4,000 employees. One of many corporations across the U.S., that have succumb to the outrageous regulations of the E.P.A.All of this is part of a government Socialist agenda, to Re-Distribution wealth on a global scale. If one is a proponent of Social and Economic Equality, he/she supports the relocation of U.S. corporations.

Buuuuuuuulllllll shittttttt.... You're a useful idiot for the right wing, PP.

[Anonymous]

I think we need to set up systems for total transparency. I think we should make generous provisions for work visas of all kinds (including for construction/hospitality/ag workers from Mexico and Central America) but the entire process should be done via an online website, where companies have to fully justify and advertise every position that they are interested in filling using foreign labor, where companies would compete against each other for foreign workers through wages and benefits, where American workers would have an opportunity and right of first refusal to get those jobs. Similarly, if an American company plans to offshore, I think there should be a full and complete and transparent online justification provided so that American communities and workers can have the first shot at retaining those companies. If it's a matter of something like moving to save a dollar an hour in labor costs or to circumvent some environmental regulation, it should be flat-out refused.

Why aren't you running for president??

[Anonymous]

Doesn't more jobs for Mexicans translate to fewer Mexicans trying to cross the border?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't more jobs for Mexicans translate to fewer Mexicans trying to cross the border?

Yes. And in fact more Mexicans are leaving the US than arriving, as there economy is so much stronger than it was.

This mentality of walls and tariffs to protect jobs is fundamentally wrong-headed. We should be protecting workers, not jobs. Trying to stop the economy from evolving is what got Southern Europe into its current mess. The growth companies of the future are ones that have not even been founded yet, and the future googles and face books will pay a lot more than rust belt manufacturing,. And yes, many of them will be founded by immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't more jobs for Mexicans translate to fewer Mexicans trying to cross the border?

Yes. And in fact more Mexicans are leaving the US than arriving, as there economy is so much stronger than it was.

This mentality of walls and tariffs to protect jobs is fundamentally wrong-headed. We should be protecting workers, not jobs. Trying to stop the economy from evolving is what got Southern Europe into its current mess. The growth companies of the future are ones that have not even been founded yet, and the future googles and face books will pay a lot more than rust belt manufacturing,. And yes, many of them will be founded by immigrants.

Workers = Jobs. The reality is when manufacturing leaves we dependent on imports. How many googles and facebooks do we need? Look-we pay more for verizon cell due to calls and cell tower service. We have control and some degree of regulation over US manufacturing.

Chinese drywall anyone? Only stuff for me to buy not made in USA is disposable stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:H1B visas- bring people in and we can see the children and grandchildren of prior H1B who are US citizens get snookered out of a job.

On another thread I commented that based on my experience if a person can work an iphone, laptop, etc they can work at a call center with training. Homeless due to jobless people in DC ? https://www.outsource2india.com/callcenter/site/

Low middle class income v no income? People moved from the south for manufacturing jobs in the north. Jobs gone.

Your kid didn't lose a job because an h1b is cheaper. He lost a job because he barely squeaked by in college and thinks an mcse certification erases that. Foreign born engineers are kicking our kids' butts.

Not my child. H1B's are cheaper. Our country can and does produce engineers and tech people. And we would have more if financial aid and loans and grants were bumped up for our citizens MAJORING in STEM.

H1Bs are cheaper. But that said it often ends up costing as much because a lot of the foreign born engineers are like a one-trick-pony - they may have technical expertise but it is very narrow and they have very few skills beyond that - plus poor communication skills. Plus, there's often also a lot of other corner-cutting that goes along with it, as opposed to conscientiousness and due dilligence.

I think we need to set up systems for total transparency. I think we should make generous provisions for work visas of all kinds (including for construction/hospitality/ag workers from Mexico and Central America) but the entire process should be done via an online website, where companies have to fully justify and advertise every position that they are interested in filling using foreign labor, where companies would compete against each other for foreign workers through wages and benefits, where American workers would have an opportunity and right of first refusal to get those jobs. Similarly, if an American company plans to offshore, I think there should be a full and complete and transparent online justification provided so that American communities and workers can have the first shot at retaining those companies. If it's a matter of something like moving to save a dollar an hour in labor costs or to circumvent some environmental regulation, it should be flat-out refused.

That totally goes against open market and capitalism, basically, how the US works. If a company wants to close an office here, and open one up in another country, there's really not much the US gov't can do about it. The company is not breaking any US laws.

Good luck trying to get any politician to change that law. It would be the end of our democracy and the beginning of socialism or communism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I think we need to set up systems for total transparency. I think we should make generous provisions for work visas of all kinds (including for construction/hospitality/ag workers from Mexico and Central America) but the entire process should be done via an online website, where companies have to fully justify and advertise every position that they are interested in filling using foreign labor, where companies would compete against each other for foreign workers through wages and benefits, where American workers would have an opportunity and right of first refusal to get those jobs. Similarly, if an American company plans to offshore, I think there should be a full and complete and transparent online justification provided so that American communities and workers can have the first shot at retaining those companies. If it's a matter of something like moving to save a dollar an hour in labor costs or to circumvent some environmental regulation, it should be flat-out refused.

Why aren't you running for president??

Because there are three of them already running and they can't poll higher then 7-10%.

[Anonymous]

I've since learned that there are certain companies that are taking unfair advantage of H1B visa provisions in the US, flooding immigration with applications so they have a much much better chance in the lottery system. You can check it out in a NYT article, I think it was November 2015?

Interesting.

I'm not opposed to H1B on principle, but there is probably good reason to oppose it in how it is being practice by some unscrupulous companies.