To WISC or not (be kind please)

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Anonymous wrote: It was a PITA going to GMU for the WISC, but DS got a lot out of AAP. (I knew that he could do it with ease because his prior grades etc) A good score on the WISC is a big help on appeal.

Why was it a PITA to go to GMU?

It was not about GMU -- I just felt bad that he had to take a test like this at age 8. It was a bit intimidating, and the student who gave the test was not one I would have chosen. He scored OK, but you could see where he had become intimidated from the verbal part. The pencil and paper test at school was much easier (he took both) b/c they give the test every year.== the NNAT.

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Anonymous wrote:I think GMU should do the testing for free, since they are using it to train their own grad students.

Why? You pay for haircuts at beauty training schools.

NP here, GMU should charge lower than market price like beauty schools then under your logic and they do not.

If you get a haircut by a student you assume the risk that it won't be a professional job. Perhaps no such risk is involved at GMU and the assessments by grad students are double checked by professors. So you leave with a professionally confirmed assessment and you pay for such. Or I could be totally wrong.

GMU DOES charge less than local psychologists. Next problem?

First address the problem with your post. It seems to be missing a word.[/quote

Yes, mom.

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Anonymous wrote:I think GMU should do the testing for free, since they are using it to train their own grad students.

Why? You pay for haircuts at beauty training schools.

NP here, GMU should charge lower than market price like beauty schools then under your logic and they do not.

If you get a haircut by a student you assume the risk that it won't be a professional job. Perhaps no such risk is involved at GMU and the assessments by grad students are double checked by professors. So you leave with a professionally confirmed assessment and you pay for such. Or I could be totally wrong.

GMU DOES charge less than local psychologists. Next problem?

First address the problem with your post. It seems to be missing a word.[/quote

Yes, mom.

GMU charges $380 - which is SLIGHTLY less (for students testing) than others locally and MORE the others. Prices for WISCs are listed on Flint Hill's testing page.
http://www.flinthill.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/LS-Testing-Info-13-14.pdf

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No clue why you are wasting time on looking up the pricing on this issue. WHO CARES what GMU charges? Go there or don't go there, but why spend a millisecond thinking they should charge $0? They don't so why are you wasting time and energy on the issue?

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Doesn't GMU charge less for those who are eligible for free and reduced lunch?

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Personally, I think your experience at GMU is less predictable because the students are still learning. I think rapport and the test giving process matter and can be inconsistent with the various students at GMU. We went there and I wish we hadn't. It was not about AAP since kid got in but about LD flags that they glossed over.

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We did not. DD had 126 Naglieri and 121 CogAt. 16 GBRS. in first round, no appeal needed.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I think your experience at GMU is less predictable because the students are still learning. I think rapport and the test giving process matter and can be inconsistent with the various students at GMU. We went there and I wish we hadn't. It was not about AAP since kid got in but about LD flags that they glossed over.

Rapport can be inconsistent with anyone. There is no guarantee that a child would have rapport with a psychologist in private practice either. If anything, kids many times have better rapport with younger adults than older. The grad students giving the tests are about the same age as many of the elementary school teachers my kids have had.

The graduate students are learning the test giving process, but they get a lot of experience there and they are supervised by a PhD. We had an excellent experience there and would use their services again if we had the need.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I think your experience at GMU is less predictable because the students are still learning. I think rapport and the test giving process matter and can be inconsistent with the various students at GMU. We went there and I wish we hadn't. It was not about AAP since kid got in but about LD flags that they glossed over.

Rapport can be inconsistent with anyone. There is no guarantee that a child would have rapport with a psychologist in private practice either. If anything, kids many times have better rapport with younger adults than older. The grad students giving the tests are about the same age as many of the elementary school teachers my kids have had.

The graduate students are learning the test giving process, but they get a lot of experience there and they are supervised by a PhD. We had an excellent experience there and would use their services again if we had the need.

But with a private psychologist, you know who it is when you book. It is random at GMU. The "supervision" is not during the test. It's just evaluating the results, so whatever is going on in that little room is just between the child and the tester, not the actual licensed psychologist. I think it would be fine and you know that going in. But it's odd that you don;t really get much of a discount (maybe $50) considering that you don't know who the tester is and they are not licensed.

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OP here- we did decide to test DD for WISC V ( big difference score-wise since WISC IV had the flynn effect). DD had a GAI of 143 and FSI (?not sure if this is correct acronym) 140. Had a "high average" word processing speed though DD was told every day not to rush in and take her time so that may have impacted this.

So- DD has 129 NNAT
? GBRS (saying "strong" support though after talking to close friends and seeing grades (average plus) little faith in teacher hence paying for WISC,
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Go to Dr. Dahlgren in Fairfax. $400 and professional.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to Dr. Dahlgren in Fairfax. $400 and professional.

I bet local psychologists view this time of year as their own version of "Black Friday". Too bad there aren't any sales.

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Anonymous wrote: It was a PITA going to GMU for the WISC, but DS got a lot out of AAP. (I knew that he could do it with ease because his prior grades etc) A good score on the WISC is a big help on appeal.

Why was it a PITA to go to GMU?

It was not about GMU -- I just felt bad that he had to take a test like this at age 8. It was a bit intimidating, and the student who gave the test was not one I would have chosen. He scored OK, but you could see where he had become intimidated from the verbal part. The pencil and paper test at school was much easier (he took both) b/c they give the test every year.== the NNAT.

How could you see anything? You weren't present for the test itself.