Which schools accept after count day?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funding only follows the child (after the count) if a child goes from a public charter to DCPS. Conversely, if a child comes to a charter after the count from DCPS the funds remain with DCPS.

I don't think the first part is true even a little bit. It's the same both ways.

That's my understanding as well.

I think people are confused about the exact funding process. DCPS makes estimates at the beginning of the year and gets funding based on that- and there is no "true up" after that to match the exact funding to the final student count. Charters do the same thing- send an estimate of their count in July, and the first quarterly payment is based on that estimate. But then once the official count is complete, the remaining quarterly payments are "trued up" so that the final total annual amount will match the official count number.

This article explains the process about 1/3 of the way down. It's three years old, but still the process.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/dc-charter-schools-fight-second-class-status/2012/08/21/b98961ce-bc1f-11e1-9134-f33232e6dafa_story.html

[Anonymous]

when is/was count day this year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:when is/was count day this year?

Tuesday, October 20

[Anonymous]

Count day is always Oct. 5. (That's when the schools have to turn in the names of students.) However, the in-person verification of the #s provided in count day happens later in the month and varies by school.

[Anonymous]

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funding only follows the child (after the count) if a child goes from a public charter to DCPS. Conversely, if a child comes to a charter after the count from DCPS the funds remain with DCPS.

I don't think the first part is true even a little bit. It's the same both ways.

That's my understanding as well.

I think people are confused about the exact funding process. DCPS makes estimates at the beginning of the year and gets funding based on that- and there is no "true up" after that to match the exact funding to the final student count. Charters do the same thing- send an estimate of their count in July, and the first quarterly payment is based on that estimate. But then once the official count is complete, the remaining quarterly payments are "trued up" so that the final total annual amount will match the official count number.

This article explains the process about 1/3 of the way down. It's three years old, but still the process.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/dc-charter-schools-fight-second-class-status/2012/08/21/b98961ce-bc1f-11e1-9134-f33232e6dafa_story.html

Per the DC Code, unless I'm reading it wrong, there is a "true up" - but only to the official count number (the verification of the October 5th count). So if verification is done October 20th, and the charter gets 10 more students after that - there's no funding adjustment for that (the article incorrectly indicates funding increases if enrollment increases throughout the year). The final quarterly payment to a charter ensures that the the total annual amount across all 4 payments matches the verification number (from late October it seems, as that's when the audit is done). I'm not sure what happens when someone gets added between Oct 5 and October 20 (using that as verification day for example) - other than the school wouldn't receive payment for that student until April, and thus is sort of out funding for the kid for the year. Seems the school would get money eventually, but too many kids and that could add up to a lot of missing funding (5 preK-3ers is 60k+ I think - that's a whole staff member). But the implication of count/verification day are real...

[Anonymous]

Sorry here's the DC code section: http://dccode.org/simple/sections/38-2906.02.html

[Anonymous]

SSMA took one PK3 after count day last year. The student's parent had a pretty unique circumstance (had just moved to the country) that somehow must have been compelling to someone in the school's administration. I would not say it's the norm by any stretch.

[Anonymous]

Are schools free to ignore the waitlist after count day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are schools free to ignore the waitlist after count day?

This comes up a lot. Seems no one knows for sure my school dc will continue to manage it - once new year's lottery opens perhaps? Someone really should call and ask (not relevant to me, so I'm not volunteering)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funding only follows the child (after the count) if a child goes from a public charter to DCPS. Conversely, if a child comes to a charter after the count from DCPS the funds remain with DCPS.

Another instance of inequity among DCPS but yet the propaganda is always about charter schools?

Funding does not follow students from PCS to DCPS. This is inaccurate.

DCPS is funded for the number of students they are projected to enroll. This projection is developed in the winter (usually by January) and approved by OSSE to develop the DCPS budget by the Spring. DCPS reps have community meetings about budget in which they explain this timeline and will answer questions.

[Anonymous]

So does DCPS get funded on projected or actual students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are schools free to ignore the waitlist after count day?

No, of course not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So does DCPS get funded on projected or actual students?

projected, hence the unfairness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are schools free to ignore the waitlist after count day?

No, of course not.

uh, yes. don't know of any HRCSs who take kids off the waitlist after Count Day. It's over.