All charters are not created equally

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

If you don't want something new and potentially untested, don't send your kid to a charter school. Talk about stating the obvious.

True--I don't and I won't. I can try new things with my child after school and on weekends. During school hours, I'll stick with what is tried and true. The stakes are too high.

Just out of curiosity, which DCPS does your child attend?

A WotP Ward 3 school with high test scores and solid academics--tried and true. We live IB so we also enjoy the "neighborhood feel." Our children have received exactly what we hoped for in a school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

I love your term experiment. Sure, stick your kid in the same institutionalized programing. I believe DCPS hasn't updated its programing in 30 years or so. Hopefully, their training model (which is the same of all teachers and all teachers, no variance from the norm!) will allow some flexibility if your child needs help.

See, insults can go both ways.

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

If you don't want something new and potentially untested, don't send your kid to a charter school. Talk about stating the obvious.

True--I don't and I won't. I can try new things with my child after school and on weekends. During school hours, I'll stick with what is tried and true. The stakes are too high.

Just out of curiosity, which DCPS does your child attend?

A WotP Ward 3 school with high test scores and solid academics--tried and true. We live IB so we also enjoy the "neighborhood feel." Our children have received exactly what we hoped for in a school.

Tried and true, how long have you been living in DC? Hysterical. You WOTP are hysterical. Like your schools have been FOREVER...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

I love your term experiment. Sure, stick your kid in the same institutionalized programing. I believe DCPS hasn't updated its programing in 30 years or so. Hopefully, their training model (which is the same of all teachers and all teachers, no variance from the norm!) will allow some flexibility if your child needs help.

See, insults can go both ways.

^^^^This made no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

If you don't want something new and potentially untested, don't send your kid to a charter school. Talk about stating the obvious.

True--I don't and I won't. I can try new things with my child after school and on weekends. During school hours, I'll stick with what is tried and true. The stakes are too high.

Just out of curiosity, which DCPS does your child attend?

A WotP Ward 3 school with high test scores and solid academics--tried and true. We live IB so we also enjoy the "neighborhood feel." Our children have received exactly what we hoped for in a school.

Tried and true, how long have you been living in DC? Hysterical. You WOTP are hysterical. Like your schools have been FOREVER...

I'm not that poster, I'm a np who has lived in the District for 21 years, married to a guy who's lived here since he was born in ward 3 in 1970.

Several ward 3 schools have been strong for day least 40 years. Probably longer but we can't speak to that from our direct experience. This fact is always inconvenient for newcomers who prattle on about wotp schools "turning," whatever the hell that means. Didn't happen that way -- sorry for upending your narrative with accuracy!

[Anonymous]

Since there are no charters WoTP, it makes sense that you send your child to your neighborhood WoTP school instead of driving clear across town to an EoTP charter.

If you have lived in DC for any length of town, you know that many/most people moved WoTP or out of DC altogether to MD or VA once they had school aged children. Now because of charters, many families stay put in their homes EoTP.

So stay at your WOTP park DCPS bubble sweetie. We don't need any more competition in the lottery for HRCS seats. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since there are no charters WoTP, it makes sense that you send your child to your neighborhood WoTP school instead of driving clear across town to an EoTP charter.

If you have lived in DC for any length of town, you know that many/most people moved WoTP or out of DC altogether to MD or VA once they had school aged children. Now because of charters, many families stay put in their homes EoTP.

So stay at your WOTP park DCPS bubble sweetie. We don't need any more competition in the lottery for HRCS seats. Thanks!

You're welcome...sweetie! I'm happy to help

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

If you don't want something new and potentially untested, don't send your kid to a charter school. Talk about stating the obvious.

True--I don't and I won't. I can try new things with my child after school and on weekends. During school hours, I'll stick with what is tried and true. The stakes are too high.

Just out of curiosity, which DCPS does your child attend?

A WotP Ward 3 school with high test scores and solid academics--tried and true. We live IB so we also enjoy the "neighborhood feel." Our children have received exactly what we hoped for in a school.

Tried and true, how long have you been living in DC? Hysterical. You WOTP are hysterical. Like your schools have been FOREVER...

I'm not that poster, I'm a np who has lived in the District for 21 years, married to a guy who's lived here since he was born in ward 3 in 1970.

Several ward 3 schools have been strong for day least 40 years. Probably longer but we can't speak to that from our direct experience. This fact is always inconvenient for newcomers who prattle on about wotp schools "turning," whatever the hell that means. Didn't happen that way -- sorry for upending your narrative with accuracy!

Yes most WOTP schools have been good for a while, but they've been attended by majority AA students (albeit middle/high income). When more whites started attending that is when it "turned", wish people would call a spade a spade.

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

If you don't want something new and potentially untested, don't send your kid to a charter school. Talk about stating the obvious.

True--I don't and I won't. I can try new things with my child after school and on weekends. During school hours, I'll stick with what is tried and true. The stakes are too high.

Just out of curiosity, which DCPS does your child attend?

A WotP Ward 3 school with high test scores and solid academics--tried and true. We live IB so we also enjoy the "neighborhood feel." Our children have received exactly what we hoped for in a school.

Tried and true, how long have you been living in DC? Hysterical. You WOTP are hysterical. Like your schools have been FOREVER...

I'm not that poster, I'm a np who has lived in the District for 21 years, married to a guy who's lived here since he was born in ward 3 in 1970.

Several ward 3 schools have been strong for day least 40 years. Probably longer but we can't speak to that from our direct experience. This fact is always inconvenient for newcomers who prattle on about wotp schools "turning," whatever the hell that means. Didn't happen that way -- sorry for upending your narrative with accuracy!

Yes most WOTP schools have been good for a while, but they've been attended by majority AA students (albeit middle/high income). When more whites started attending that is when it "turned", wish people would call a spade a spade.

When were Mann, Murch, Janney, Key, Lafayette, Oyster, etc ever majority AA? Making statements, without facts to back it up, are just your (ill informed) opinion. Further, if anyone believes that these always strong schools "turned" once they had more white people (I'm talking to YOU), you need to check your bigotry.

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

If you don't want something new and potentially untested, don't send your kid to a charter school. Talk about stating the obvious.

True--I don't and I won't. I can try new things with my child after school and on weekends. During school hours, I'll stick with what is tried and true. The stakes are too high.

Just out of curiosity, which DCPS does your child attend?

A WotP Ward 3 school with high test scores and solid academics--tried and true. We live IB so we also enjoy the "neighborhood feel." Our children have received exactly what we hoped for in a school.

Good for you. It makes me ill that people like you speak out against charters. Enjoy your great neighborhood school and leave the charters for the thousands of children in DC who don't have that situation--whose schools are crumbling, dysfunctional and dangerous. Talk about living in a bubble...

Tried and true, how long have you been living in DC? Hysterical. You WOTP are hysterical. Like your schools have been FOREVER...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

If you don't want something new and potentially untested, don't send your kid to a charter school. Talk about stating the obvious.

True--I don't and I won't. I can try new things with my child after school and on weekends. During school hours, I'll stick with what is tried and true. The stakes are too high.

Just out of curiosity, which DCPS does your child attend?

A WotP Ward 3 school with high test scores and solid academics--tried and true. We live IB so we also enjoy the "neighborhood feel." Our children have received exactly what we hoped for in a school.

Tried and true, how long have you been living in DC? Hysterical. You WOTP are hysterical. Like your schools have been FOREVER...

I'm not that poster, I'm a np who has lived in the District for 21 years, married to a guy who's lived here since he was born in ward 3 in 1970.

Several ward 3 schools have been strong for day least 40 years. Probably longer but we can't speak to that from our direct experience. This fact is always inconvenient for newcomers who prattle on about wotp schools "turning," whatever the hell that means. Didn't happen that way -- sorry for upending your narrative with accuracy!

Yes most WOTP schools have been good for a while, but they've been attended by majority AA students (albeit middle/high income). When more whites started attending that is when it "turned", wish people would call a spade a spade.

Name the schools you think you are discussing, please.

[Anonymous]

It makes me sad to see posts like these.

As someone who cares for the education of all of DC kids, people like the WOTP poster and others are really doing nothing but just reenforcing old hatreds and stereotypes.

Some of us actually worry about making this a great place to live for everyone - not just depending on which side of the park or river we live on.

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

If you don't want something new and potentially untested, don't send your kid to a charter school. Talk about stating the obvious.

True--I don't and I won't. I can try new things with my child after school and on weekends. During school hours, I'll stick with what is tried and true. The stakes are too high.

Just out of curiosity, which DCPS does your child attend?

A WotP Ward 3 school with high test scores and solid academics--tried and true. We live IB so we also enjoy the "neighborhood feel." Our children have received exactly what we hoped for in a school.

Tried and true, how long have you been living in DC? Hysterical. You WOTP are hysterical. Like your schools have been FOREVER...

I'm not that poster, I'm a np who has lived in the District for 21 years, married to a guy who's lived here since he was born in ward 3 in 1970.

Several ward 3 schools have been strong for day least 40 years. Probably longer but we can't speak to that from our direct experience. This fact is always inconvenient for newcomers who prattle on about wotp schools "turning," whatever the hell that means. Didn't happen that way -- sorry for upending your narrative with accuracy!

Yes most WOTP schools have been good for a while, but they've been attended by majority AA students (albeit middle/high income). When more whites started attending that is when it "turned", wish people would call a spade a spade.

Name the schools you think you are discussing, please.

I will do some digging in a moment. I'm talking about 1990s. Even 2006 alone, Murch had 112 AA students that were tested in CAS and 81 White.

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Anonymous wrote:What stood out to me in this article is that they had funds to do things that would never be available in the public school system. For example what the college counselors could do. What I see especially for those charters that can pull in kids from poorly performing areas, is that they can provide non-academic supports that make a huge difference. Sometimes this does not mean they have higher scores but they increase connections and opportunities that helps a group of highly motivated kids find a way out. We just had a family friend graduate from Wilson. He comes from a very poor family and has lots of needs, but they just could not help him in the way say KIPP probably could have.

Charters generally have less funds than DCPS but have more freedom on how to spend what they do get.

Yes, charters have more freedom to experiment with your children. Sometimes it works, and sometimes...

If you don't want something new and potentially untested, don't send your kid to a charter school. Talk about stating the obvious.

True--I don't and I won't. I can try new things with my child after school and on weekends. During school hours, I'll stick with what is tried and true. The stakes are too high.

Just out of curiosity, which DCPS does your child attend?

A WotP Ward 3 school with high test scores and solid academics--tried and true. We live IB so we also enjoy the "neighborhood feel." Our children have received exactly what we hoped for in a school.

Tried and true, how long have you been living in DC? Hysterical. You WOTP are hysterical. Like your schools have been FOREVER...

I'm not that poster, I'm a np who has lived in the District for 21 years, married to a guy who's lived here since he was born in ward 3 in 1970.

Several ward 3 schools have been strong for day least 40 years. Probably longer but we can't speak to that from our direct experience. This fact is always inconvenient for newcomers who prattle on about wotp schools "turning," whatever the hell that means. Didn't happen that way -- sorry for upending your narrative with accuracy!

Yes most WOTP schools have been good for a while, but they've been attended by majority AA students (albeit middle/high income). When more whites started attending that is when it "turned", wish people would call a spade a spade.

Name the schools you think you are discussing, please.

I will do some digging in a moment. I'm talking about 1990s. Even 2006 alone, Murch had 112 AA students that were tested in CAS and 81 White.

What is your point? Murch was a great and highly sought-after school when there were 112 AA/81 white students tested. Unless of course you're saying that it wasn't great simply because there were slightly more AA that year. Is that what you're saying? If so, reasonable and intelligent people can disregard anything else that you post.

[Anonymous]

Nope. Saying IB white residents weren't sending their kids to their IB schools until it started "changing", ie the demographics started changing. Seeing the same exact thing at Hardy now.