Who's leaving PK3, 4 or K?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you mind name the school your leaving from and where your going?
I'll start, we're leaving Barnard PK4 for Capital City.

Can you share why?

Love the diversity CC has to offer and was really impressed at the open house. We are IB for Barnard so we can always go back.

Thanks for sharing.
I'm honestly curious though, you're the second IB parent I've heard say that they don't think Barnard is "diverse" or at least not diverse enough and honestly I don't understand this description based on my experiences so far at the school (We are also IB and sending our child to start PS3 there next year). It has seemed very diverse to me during all of my visits. What am I missing?

Diverse on DCUM=more white kids

BARNARD STUDENT DEMOGRAPHICS
(2014-15)
Enrollment: 602
Black: 51%
Hispanic/Latino: 46%
White: 1%
Asian: 0%
Pacific/Hawaiian: 0%
Native/Alaskan: 0%
Multiple races: 1%

Even on DCUM, "diversity" is not always just about having more white kids. A 2013 report by Greater Greater Education found Cap City to be the most diverse charter school in the city, based on no ethnic demographic group having more than 35 percent representation. See http://greatergreatereducation.org/post/19691/dcs-most-diverse-charter-schools/ ("To measure 'diversity' we divided the school populations into four categories: black, Hispanic, white, and 'other,' with 'other' including Asian, Native American, Pacific Islander, and multiracial. Then we ranked schools by the share of their largest group. The smaller the dominant group, the more diverse. (A breakdown of the "other" category is available here, along with a ranked list of all 103 campuses.) By this definition, the most diverse campus in the city is Capital City's lower school, where none of the four groups has more than 35% representation. All figures are for the 2012-13 school year, and school locations may not reflect moves to new buildings for the school year that just ended. (Capital City consolidated its upper and lower schools onto a new campus in Ward 4, but the new campus would also be the most diverse charter in the city by this measure).")
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Having no more than 35% representation seems like inflated diversity to me. DC is only 9% Hispanic. If you have a school that is 33/33/33 that would seem like Hispanic demo is disproportionately represented. I think a school should reflect the city in which we live in.

[Anonymous]

So every school should perfectly match a citywide demographic? Sounds unrealistic to say the very least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So every school should perfectly match a citywide demographic? Sounds unrealistic to say the very least.

It's a lot easier to organically get a school that represents the city than 30% pie chart with the 3rd highest population only represents 9% of the city (save for spanish immersion schools which will naturally have larger latino applicants). So yes. There are many schools that represent the city pretty well.

DC:
AA 50%
White 40%
Hispanic 9%

TR
AA 64%
White 26%
Hispanic 9%

ITS
AA 41%
White 41%
Hispanic 5%

YY
AA 41%
White 27%
Hispanic 6%

CM
AA 34%
White 43%
Hispanic 15%

Basis
AA 48%
White 32%
Hispanic 7%

CH Montessori
AA 54%
White 35%
Hispanic 3%

Hearst
AA 57%
White 28%
Hispanic 6%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So every school should perfectly match a citywide demographic? Sounds unrealistic to say the very least.

It's a lot easier to organically get a school that represents the city than 30% pie chart with the 3rd highest population only represents 9% of the city (save for spanish immersion schools which will naturally have larger latino applicants). So yes. There are many schools that represent the city pretty well.

DC:
AA 50%
White 40%
Hispanic 9%

TR
AA 64%
White 26%
Hispanic 9%

ITS
AA 41%
White 41%
Hispanic 5%

YY
AA 41%
White 27%
Hispanic 6%

CM
AA 34%
White 43%
Hispanic 15%

Basis
AA 48%
White 32%
Hispanic 7%

CH Montessori
AA 54%
White 35%
Hispanic 3%

Hearst
AA 57%
White 28%
Hispanic 6%

Not to be dense here, but what is "DC" the first one listed?

[Anonymous]

Current Washington DC demographics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

DC:
AA 50%
White 40%
Hispanic 9%


Not to be dense here, but what is "DC" the first one listed?

Pretty sure those are the stats for the racial breakdown of the District of Columbia as a whole (all ages). For me the breakdown of children is probably more important. Here's what is was for the District of Columbia in 2013, from kidscount.org, for kids aged 0-17. Total of 111,474 kids. They pull data from the Census Bureau:

White (non-Hispanic): 21%
African American (non-Hispanic): 59%
Native American: 0.2%
Asian: 2%
Hispanic/Latino: 14%
Two or more races (non-Hispanic): 4%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DC:
AA 50%
White 40%
Hispanic 9%


Not to be dense here, but what is "DC" the first one listed?

Pretty sure those are the stats for the racial breakdown of the District of Columbia as a whole (all ages). For me the breakdown of children is probably more important. Here's what is was for the District of Columbia in 2013, from kidscount.org, for kids aged 0-17. Total of 111,474 kids. They pull data from the Census Bureau:

White (non-Hispanic): 21%
African American (non-Hispanic): 59%
Native American: 0.2%
Asian: 2%
Hispanic/Latino: 14%
Two or more races (non-Hispanic): 4%

Even still, 14% Hispanic and people are asking that a school have 30% representation of Hispanic population. Do agree that ideally a school should mirro me these stats.

[Anonymous]

Leaving Bridges for Murch (Kindergarten)

[Anonymous]

CapCity parent here with kids in the middle school. The diversity discussion is being very narrowly interpreted on this thread to focus solely on ethnic diversity. There are many other diversities to consider and expose our children to - economic, types of families, immigrant corrientes, education attainment. We have been impressed the last 4 years with how Cap City recognizes and nurtures all those diversities in a deliberate way. If the PP was using diveridit as code
For not being the only white family fine but know Cap City is more than just about ethnic diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CapCity parent here with kids in the middle school. The diversity discussion is being very narrowly interpreted on this thread to focus solely on ethnic diversity. There are many other diversities to consider and expose our children to - economic, types of families, immigrant corrientes, education attainment. We have been impressed the last 4 years with how Cap City recognizes and nurtures all those diversities in a deliberate way. If the PP was using diveridit as code
For not being the only white family fine but know Cap City is more than just about ethnic diversity.

Hm. Great points about diversity being about more than race. However all of this diversity is also present at Barnard. In fact, if not for the racial demographics of more white kids, Cap City's diversity sounds a lot like Barnard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CapCity parent here with kids in the middle school. The diversity discussion is being very narrowly interpreted on this thread to focus solely on ethnic diversity. There are many other diversities to consider and expose our children to - economic, types of families, immigrant corrientes, education attainment. We have been impressed the last 4 years with how Cap City recognizes and nurtures all those diversities in a deliberate way. If the PP was using diveridit as code
For not being the only white family fine but know Cap City is more than just about ethnic diversity.

Hm. Great points about diversity being about more than race. However all of this diversity is also present at Barnard. In fact, if not for the racial demographics of more white kids, Cap City's diversity sounds a lot like Barnard.

PP here. This is why I can never understand the overfascination with ethnic diversity and being an 'only' somewhere. At our first DCPS - by the time we left - my kids were the only white kids in their class. This mattered alot less than the fact that we were easily the most well off family with two parents with advanced degrees who had time, energy and money to invest in education and overall opportunities for our kids. As our kids got older they needed a mix of socioeconomic levels in the class - to not be the only family no matter what ethnicity who was comfortably middle class.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would you mind name the school your leaving from and where your going?
I'll start, we're leaving Barnard PK4 for Capital City.

Can you share why?

Love the diversity CC has to offer and was really impressed at the open house. We are IB for Barnard so we can always go back.

Thanks for sharing.
I'm honestly curious though, you're the second IB parent I've heard say that they don't think Barnard is "diverse" or at least not diverse enough and honestly I don't understand this description based on my experiences so far at the school (We are also IB and sending our child to start PS3 there next year). It has seemed very diverse to me during all of my visits. What am I missing?

Diverse on DCUM=more white kids

BARNARD STUDENT DEMOGRAPHICS
(2014-15)
Enrollment: 602
Black: 51%
Hispanic/Latino: 46%
White: 1%
Asian: 0%
Pacific/Hawaiian: 0%
Native/Alaskan: 0%
Multiple races: 1%

Even on DCUM, "diversity" is not always just about having more white kids. A 2013 report by Greater Greater Education found Cap City to be the most diverse charter school in the city, based on no ethnic demographic group having more than 35 percent representation. See http://greatergreatereducation.org/post/19691/dcs-most-diverse-charter-schools/ ("To measure 'diversity' we divided the school populations into four categories: black, Hispanic, white, and 'other,' with 'other' including Asian, Native American, Pacific Islander, and multiracial. Then we ranked schools by the share of their largest group. The smaller the dominant group, the more diverse. (A breakdown of the "other" category is available here, along with a ranked list of all 103 campuses.) By this definition, the most diverse campus in the city is Capital City's lower school, where none of the four groups has more than 35% representation. All figures are for the 2012-13 school year, and school locations may not reflect moves to new buildings for the school year that just ended. (Capital City consolidated its upper and lower schools onto a new campus in Ward 4, but the new campus would also be the most diverse charter in the city by this measure).")
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That's a lot of research/effort to rationalize your racism. Kudos!

WTH?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CapCity parent here with kids in the middle school. The diversity discussion is being very narrowly interpreted on this thread to focus solely on ethnic diversity. There are many other diversities to consider and expose our children to - economic, types of families, immigrant corrientes, education attainment. We have been impressed the last 4 years with how Cap City recognizes and nurtures all those diversities in a deliberate way. If the PP was using diveridit as code
For not being the only white family fine but know Cap City is more than just about ethnic diversity.

Hm. Great points about diversity being about more than race. However all of this diversity is also present at Barnard. In fact, if not for the racial demographics of more white kids, Cap City's diversity sounds a lot like Barnard.

PP here. This is why I can never understand the overfascination with ethnic diversity and being an 'only' somewhere. At our first DCPS - by the time we left - my kids were the only white kids in their class. This mattered alot less than the fact that we were easily the most well off family with two parents with advanced degrees who had time, energy and money to invest in education and overall opportunities for our kids. As our kids got older they needed a mix of socioeconomic levels in the class - to not be the only family no matter what ethnicity who was comfortably middle class.

I think I know you- and you were not the only middle class family at Barnard. You like to think you were- what with your advanced degrees and two parent family. You have gotten a lot of air time about how you all were the last white folks standing. But clearly- the 15 minutes it not up...