FOX News has abducted my mother

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah for someone preaching the need to consider multiple viewpoints and the value of open mindedness, you sound like both a hypocrite and an a--hole.

Hey mom, get off DCUM. Fox is on.

Wanna bet that I'm smarter than you? We should have a contest.

It is not a contest. It is not about who is smarter. The issue is engaging in thoughtful, deliberate dialogue about important matters. Fox robs its viewers of this critical thinking capability. So instead, they say things like, "Hey, wanna bet I am smarter? Want a contest?"

Can't even think of an appropriate smartness contest. Well that was over much more quickly than I expected! Feels good to win.

PS - if you think you're getting "thoughtful, deliberate dialogue" from any comparable liberal (MSNBC) or centrist (CNN) mass media source you are kidding yourself. God forbid you think you're getting that from Democracy Now. The issue with most libs is they don't like the viewpoints on Fox, which is fine, but just say so and stop dressing it up it BS due process explanations. If you want to point to CSPAN or NPR or something, OK, sure, that's somewhat better (though still wildly imbalanced) but in no way comparable to Fox. It's like saying chicken is better than beef because coq au vin is preferable to beef jerky.

You are an idiot. Really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. My best friend (who my mother adores), was actually educated at an Ivy. Then went on to Columbia for a graduate degree in journalism. While she was there, we became great friends with someone who I consider to be a wickedly funny, thoughtful writer and observer of the world. He self identifies as a conservative liberal.

He took a job writing for FOX after graduation. We couldn't make sense of it, until he told us that he wanted to spend a year writing for an entertainment circus. He didn't believe anything he wrote for air, and said he approached it as if he was writing for the Onion. He was shocked that he was never challenged, but celebrated.

We told him he sold his soul to the devil.

I told my mom a sanitized version of this very real situation, and she didn't speak to me for three weeks.

LOL!
I want to school for media production and landed my first job at a right wing talk radio station and worked directly with one of the bigger nutjobs out there. My friends made fun of me for going to the dark side, and I was intimidated walking in there. But when I did, I realized I was surrounded by hippie, pot smoking, multicultural 20something instead of just the old white men I was expecting. Still friends with many of them today and we joke about how we sold our souls for those jobs.

It was just a job. We were producing **entertainment**, and looking for the next hot button issue. When we came across a great idea for a story that fit the station's views it was golden...I didn't have to agree with the position taken; I just had to know that it would generate some buzz.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh my parents are the same way. I don't have an issue with an opposing viewpoint, but what drives me crazy is their lack of believing anything else or even listening to anything else. It's not possible to have a discussion about politics with them- they are so close-minded and repeat the FNC line on anything. So frustrating.

Yes and yes. My mom is a victim of confirmation bias. She will only read crazy right wing blogs that support what she hears on Fox. If she comes across an idea or viewpoint that counters a Fox viewpoint, it blows a fuse in her brain. She has lost the ability to think logically.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh my parents are the same way. I don't have an issue with an opposing viewpoint, but what drives me crazy is their lack of believing anything else or even listening to anything else. It's not possible to have a discussion about politics with them- they are so close-minded and repeat the FNC line on anything. So frustrating.

Yes and yes. My mom is a victim of confirmation bias. She will only read crazy right wing blogs that support what she hears on Fox. If she comes across an idea or viewpoint that counters a Fox viewpoint, it blows a fuse in her brain. She has lost the ability to think logically.

Just a thought: Perhaps your mother is upset about your sanctimonious preaching and utter disregard for her viewpoint. You sound like you are disrespectful and mean to her. Don't you appreciate her for raising you to be able to have your own viewpoint? She probably paid for your college education, too. You sound like a young idealist who is incapable of rational debate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh my parents are the same way. I don't have an issue with an opposing viewpoint, but what drives me crazy is their lack of believing anything else or even listening to anything else. It's not possible to have a discussion about politics with them- they are so close-minded and repeat the FNC line on anything. So frustrating.

Yes and yes. My mom is a victim of confirmation bias. She will only read crazy right wing blogs that support what she hears on Fox. If she comes across an idea or viewpoint that counters a Fox viewpoint, it blows a fuse in her brain. She has lost the ability to think logically.

Just a thought: Perhaps your mother is upset about your sanctimonious preaching and utter disregard for her viewpoint. You sound like you are disrespectful and mean to her. Don't you appreciate her for raising you to be able to have your own viewpoint? She probably paid for your college education, too. You sound like a young idealist who is incapable of rational debate.

I really hope you are being ironic. Or this is a joke? I am 45, paid for college, and never preach anything. I am not disrespectful, just baffled. How do you get that I am incapable of rational debate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just be honest though. Do you really think CNN is any different with Democrats? We truly don't have a single news media that gives honest news.

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Let me preface by saying I don't watch U.S. cable news.

I am always amazed by how quickly people jump to judge something they no idea about. OP is not abducted by Fox, how does she know what's been said? From her mother? Is OP sure her mother understood what what said? I mean OP had to inherit her intelligence from someone, right?

People, if you criticize a news outlet or a TV/radio personality of any persuasion, be so kind as to quote what it is exactly you are criticizing. Because a pointless rant about something you allegedly don't listen to/watch makes you sound like a real dumb ass.

I agree. I've read two of three pages of rant, and not one example of what the 'lies' are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh my parents are the same way. I don't have an issue with an opposing viewpoint, but what drives me crazy is their lack of believing anything else or even listening to anything else. It's not possible to have a discussion about politics with them- they are so close-minded and repeat the FNC line on anything. So frustrating.

Yes and yes. My mom is a victim of confirmation bias. She will only read crazy right wing blogs that support what she hears on Fox. If she comes across an idea or viewpoint that counters a Fox viewpoint, it blows a fuse in her brain. She has lost the ability to think logically.

Just a thought: Perhaps your mother is upset about your sanctimonious preaching and utter disregard for her viewpoint. You sound like you are disrespectful and mean to her. Don't you appreciate her for raising you to be able to have your own viewpoint? She probably paid for your college education, too. You sound like a young idealist who is incapable of rational debate.

I really hope you are being ironic. Or this is a joke? I am 45, paid for college, and never preach anything. I am not disrespectful, just baffled. How do you get that I am incapable of rational debate?

Not the PP but you don't sound baffled. You sound sanctimonious.

[Anonymous]

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I agree. I've read two of three pages of rant, and not one example of what the 'lies' are.

Here's one: http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-britain-birmingham-profile-20150130-story.html

The supposed "no-go" zones in Birmingham, England.

[Anonymous]

It took my dad too. He was a hyper-educated guy who used to be able to make rationale arguments with facts behind them. We disagree but respected each other, especially because we both could make good points. I'm liberal but in addition to reading NYT daily, I read the WSJ and FT. I like seeing both sides. But now? He just parrots back what he hears without thinking about what he is saying. He doesn't form his on opinions anymore or try to get people to see them. It's "I heard it on Fox so it must be true." It's unfortunate. I loved our discussions but the last seven years have really been a put off.

[Anonymous]

The posts about people taking these jobs knowing full well they are producing dishonest entertainment are so depressing. Why are people knowingly participating in something that's changing the psyche and future of our country?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah for someone preaching the need to consider multiple viewpoints and the value of open mindedness, you sound like both a hypocrite and an a--hole.

Hey mom, get off DCUM. Fox is on.

Wanna bet that I'm smarter than you? We should have a contest.

It is not a contest. It is not about who is smarter. The issue is engaging in thoughtful, deliberate dialogue about important matters. Fox robs its viewers of this critical thinking capability. So instead, they say things like, "Hey, wanna bet I am smarter? Want a contest?"

Can't even think of an appropriate smartness contest. Well that was over much more quickly than I expected! Feels good to win.

PS - if you think you're getting "thoughtful, deliberate dialogue" from any comparable liberal (MSNBC) or centrist (CNN) mass media source you are kidding yourself. God forbid you think you're getting that from Democracy Now. The issue with most libs is they don't like the viewpoints on Fox, which is fine, but just say so and stop dressing it up it BS due process explanations. If you want to point to CSPAN or NPR or something, OK, sure, that's somewhat better (though still wildly imbalanced) but in no way comparable to Fox. It's like saying chicken is better than beef because coq au vin is preferable to beef jerky.

There are some conservative posters who make thoughtful points and articulate their values.

Above poster is the opposite of that.

Really, a smartness contest? Are you a five year old?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just be honest though. Do you really think CNN is any different with Democrats? We truly don't have a single news media that gives honest news.

+1

Let me preface by saying I don't watch U.S. cable news.

I am always amazed by how quickly people jump to judge something they no idea about. OP is not abducted by Fox, how does she know what's been said? From her mother? Is OP sure her mother understood what what said? I mean OP had to inherit her intelligence from someone, right?

People, if you criticize a news outlet or a TV/radio personality of any persuasion, be so kind as to quote what it is exactly you are criticizing. Because a pointless rant about something you allegedly don't listen to/watch makes you sound like a real dumb ass.

I agree. I've read two of three pages of rant, and not one example of what the 'lies' are.

For the love of god. . .Do a simple internet search of dishonest reporting from Fox, and you will have plenty to read. Oh wait. . .you don't want to stretch outside your comfort zone. You don't want to read anything that might force you to consider another way of thinking about things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah for someone preaching the need to consider multiple viewpoints and the value of open mindedness, you sound like both a hypocrite and an a--hole.

Hey mom, get off DCUM. Fox is on.

Wanna bet that I'm smarter than you? We should have a contest.

Congrats you just lost!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe how breathtakingly superior and disrespectful you on this thread are to and of the people who raised you.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah for someone preaching the need to consider multiple viewpoints and the value of open mindedness, you sound like both a hypocrite and an a--hole.

+1