Stuart Hobson vs Hardy

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Anonymous wrote:Before they remove Hardy, I would think they would send Adams to Roosevelt and remove its feeder right to Wilson.

But that would not be very many students. Removing Hardy would make more sense, because it would actually move a higher number of students.

OR maybe they would build a new high school that Hardy and Adams would feed into?

The logical thing would have been to put this on the Ellington site, and have Ellington at Cardozo or Dunbar. But they've sunk too much into renovation to make that possible. They could send Hardy and Adams to Cardozo, but I think a lot of families would be very unhappy.

Sending a family living in the palisades to cardoso would be the height of idiocy. Not that I would put if past them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they want to improve crowding at Wilson, what other choice would they have then take out Hardy? Seems pretty likely, right?

Or they could say that only IB folks have a right to attend Wilson. If you got into Adams, Hardy, or Deal or their feeders through the OOB lottery, or if you moved OOB after starting to attend any of those schools, you'd have to lottery in to any available seats at Wilson.

Or they could cut Bancroft and Shepherd out of Deal (send Bancroft to CHEC or Roosevelt; send Shepherd to Coolidge).

Or send Hyde and some others to Cardozo along with Francis-Stevens and Ross.

Or make Wilson a citywide test-in school.

Or do a citywide lottery for all high schools.

All of these would cause a huge amount of political tumult. But they would certainly right-size Wilson.

Cutting Bancroft from Deal and ultimately to Wilson would not be enough to right size Wilson. You'd need to do more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy because it feeds Wilson. Worse commute from most parts of the city, though.

Don't count on Wilson for the long term. Last year the DME floated a trial balloon to move Hardy out of Wilson. While that was dropped, the pressure to cut overcrowding at Wilson will only increase, especially as the school population continues to rise in Upper NW. Also, it's not like anyone on the DC Council advocates for Hardy. While Hardy is the "home" middle school for parts of Ward 3 (and Ward 2), few IB students choose to go there. The vast majority of its student population comes from other wards but is spread around them, so there is no Council member who "owns" or advocates for Hardy the way Cheh would for Deal.

Actually Hardy is very important in Ward 5 and Ward 7 politics. I was at a Hardy PTO meeting and the Ward 7 councilmember, Yvette Alexander, spoke. Typically Hardy has more students from Ward 5 than any other ward. It was located in Ward 5 for several years during renovations. Hardy holds an important symbolic role in DC politics, which is why the turmoil there became a city-wide issue a few years back.

The difference with Hardy is not that there is no one advocating, it's that the advocacy is of a different nature.

Please elaborate on Hardy's "important role in DC politics." What do you mean?

[Anonymous]

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Actually Hardy is very important in Ward 5 and Ward 7 politics.

Yup, Hardy is important in Ward 5. Some of those forces were beating the drum for the ward 5 middle school though (Brookland). We'll see how things shake out.

If it's the de facto Ward 5 and Ward 7 middle school, wouldn't it be smarter for DCPS basically to move the Hardy program to a new middle school that is more conveniently located? Hardy's very popular in these wards, whereas it gets no traction in Ward 3. Meanwhile the folks in far NW who are shut of Deal have been clamoring for a new middle school that matches Deal's program. Otherwise, what's going to happen with the exploding school population in Ward 3 is that more IB students will eventually go to Hardy (with varying degrees of enthusiasm), but the population of Ward 5 and Ward 7 at Hardy will be squeezed down in any case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before they remove Hardy, I would think they would send Adams to Roosevelt and remove its feeder right to Wilson.

But that would not be very many students. Removing Hardy would make more sense, because it would actually move a higher number of students.

OR maybe they would build a new high school that Hardy and Adams would feed into?

The logical thing would have been to put this on the Ellington site, and have Ellington at Cardozo or Dunbar. But they've sunk too much into renovation to make that possible. They could send Hardy and Adams to Cardozo, but I think a lot of families would be very unhappy.

Sending a family living in the palisades to cardoso would be the height of idiocy. Not that I would put if past them.

No crazier than the former SW feed to Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the SH uniform?

Red polos and khakis -- think "Target worker uniform"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Actually Hardy is very important in Ward 5 and Ward 7 politics.

Yup, Hardy is important in Ward 5. Some of those forces were beating the drum for the ward 5 middle school though (Brookland). We'll see how things shake out.

If it's the de facto Ward 5 and Ward 7 middle school, wouldn't it be smarter for DCPS basically to move the Hardy program to a new middle school that is more conveniently located? Hardy's very popular in these wards, whereas it gets no traction in Ward 3. Meanwhile the folks in far NW who are shut of Deal have been clamoring for a new middle school that matches Deal's program. Otherwise, what's going to happen with the exploding school population in Ward 3 is that more IB students will eventually go to Hardy (with varying degrees of enthusiasm), but the population of Ward 5 and Ward 7 at Hardy will be squeezed down in any case.

You could just change the name of "Brookland MS" to "Hardy MS" and change the name of "Hardy MS " to "No, uniforms, now it is just like Deal, won't y'all please attend?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the SH uniform?

Red polos and khakis -- think "Target worker uniform"

It seems more burgundy than red.

[Anonymous]

No, it's red.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they want to improve crowding at Wilson, what other choice would they have then take out Hardy? Seems pretty likely, right?

The city just cut down Wilson's boundary area by a lot. Take a look at the before and after maps in the sticky thread at the top of this forum.

The next step, for any intelligent, rational, unbiased policymaker, would be to wait and see what happens over the next few years. See what happens to enrollment and, if needed, make further changes down the road.

Only on DCUM are people hysterically calling for more to be done immediately to reduce Wilson's crowding, for what reason, I can never understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they want to improve crowding at Wilson, what other choice would they have then take out Hardy? Seems pretty likely, right?

The city just cut down Wilson's boundary area by a lot. Take a look at the before and after maps in the sticky thread at the top of this forum.

The next step, for any intelligent, rational, unbiased policymaker, would be to wait and see what happens over the next few years. See what happens to enrollment and, if needed, make further changes down the road.

Only on DCUM are people hysterically calling for more to be done immediately to reduce Wilson's crowding, for what reason, I can never understand.

Agree 100%. The real reason they continue to advocate without even waiting to see how things pan out is that they feel not enough brown kids were cut out. Let's be honest here.

[Anonymous]

Re: Bancroft and Shepherd neighborhoods--I recently moved in-bounds for one of them, but don't have a full picture of the argument for why they should be removed from Wilson's boundary. Is it geographical distance? Are they the farthest neigborhoods from Wilson? Or have some other reasons been offered?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re: Bancroft and Shepherd neighborhoods--I recently moved in-bounds for one of them, but don't have a full picture of the argument for why they should be removed from Wilson's boundary. Is it geographical distance? Are they the farthest neigborhoods from Wilson? Or have some other reasons been offered?

This was debated in a big way last summer during the boundary process. Were you not on DCUM back then? I'd tell you to use the search function, but in fairness to you a lot of those threads probably don't come up in the first few pages of the search because they are so old.

[Anonymous]

Compared to other Wilson feeders, they are far from Wilson and close to other high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Compared to other Wilson feeders, they are far from Wilson and close to other high schools.

Bancroft 2.95
Hyde 3.35 miles
Oyster 3.55
Shepherd 4.1