Since the Lafayette Thread was Removed

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Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. When we were looking to buy a little while ago being new to the area, we looked at EOTP and WOTP homes that fit our criteria (yard, preferably SFH, close access to Rock Creek Park trails, midway between our commutes in Bethesda and closer to downtown, Deal/Wilson feeder elementary, etc.). We ended up putting bids on two homes in in close succession: one in CCMD close to DC line, and one in Ward 4. Both homes fit our criteria, and were in the same general price range. It's only luck of the draw that the latter bid was accepted and we ended up EOTP.

We do like that our current neighborhood is more diverse in terms of having visible minorities (we are AA), but I think we would've been fine WOTP as well. I think people in this forum like to exaggerate differences based on where you live.

+1, we happened to land in Shepherd Park. I hate that OP has to justify her living choices. Why was the thread removed? It had to do with schools. Don't most threads go OT?

It was removed because the OP of that thread didn't like people went off topic about making her feel bad for her choices. Check the website feedback.

Where do you check the website feedback?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. When we were looking to buy a little while ago being new to the area, we looked at EOTP and WOTP homes that fit our criteria (yard, preferably SFH, close access to Rock Creek Park trails, midway between our commutes in Bethesda and closer to downtown, Deal/Wilson feeder elementary, etc.). We ended up putting bids on two homes in in close succession: one in CCMD close to DC line, and one in Ward 4. Both homes fit our criteria, and were in the same general price range. It's only luck of the draw that the latter bid was accepted and we ended up EOTP.

We do like that our current neighborhood is more diverse in terms of having visible minorities (we are AA), but I think we would've been fine WOTP as well. I think people in this forum like to exaggerate differences based on where you live.

+1, we happened to land in Shepherd Park. I hate that OP has to justify her living choices. Why was the thread removed? It had to do with schools. Don't most threads go OT?

It was removed because the OP of that thread didn't like people went off topic about making her feel bad for her choices. Check the website feedback.

Where do you check the website feedback?

Last topic in the forum page.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/forums/show/19.page

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Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

New poster. First off, I voted for Obama but I try to avoid voting Dem in city elections, and I hope more of you will consider doing the same, especially if you care about education.

Second, I didn't see the deleted thread. But on its face your critique of OP of this thread is unfair. Everyone seems to assume that wotp real estate is universally more expensive than, and wotp people universally more affluent than, the eotp houses/people. That's not the case. For example you can spend a lot more on average in Logan Circle or Mt Pleasant right now than in parts of the Lafayette district. That was even more true in 2009-2010 when a lot of people bought houses during the recession. I don't blame people for prioritizing schools and low crime over walkability to cool bars and transit service. It is ridiculous to assume that wtop people are paying a premium to avoid diversity, if that is what you were trying to suggest.

It's really pointless. The PP is far too focused on her own self-importance to concern herself with things like facts and reality.

If he/she could come back and explain to me about my limited transit I would appreciate it. I am within a 10 minute walk of the metro, the L2, L1, H2, H3, H4, and the entire 30 line. How many more options do I need to qualify as an acceptable neighborhood? Also I am interested in this higher cost of living. Is the Giant near my house charging higher prices than the ones EOTP?

Yes they are. Did you really not know this?

signed, food economist mom

I really don't know it, nor do I believe it is true in any way that would significantly impact me, especially considering that where I live I have my choice of walking to two different grocery chains, thus cutting down on the cost of transit to do my shopping.

Then again I'm not a food economist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

New poster. First off, I voted for Obama but I try to avoid voting Dem in city elections, and I hope more of you will consider doing the same, especially if you care about education.

Second, I didn't see the deleted thread. But on its face your critique of OP of this thread is unfair. Everyone seems to assume that wotp real estate is universally more expensive than, and wotp people universally more affluent than, the eotp houses/people. That's not the case. For example you can spend a lot more on average in Logan Circle or Mt Pleasant right now than in parts of the Lafayette district. That was even more true in 2009-2010 when a lot of people bought houses during the recession. I don't blame people for prioritizing schools and low crime over walkability to cool bars and transit service. It is ridiculous to assume that wtop people are paying a premium to avoid diversity, if that is what you were trying to suggest.

It's really pointless. The PP is far too focused on her own self-importance to concern herself with things like facts and reality.

If he/she could come back and explain to me about my limited transit I would appreciate it. I am within a 10 minute walk of the metro, the L2, L1, H2, H3, H4, and the entire 30 line. How many more options do I need to qualify as an acceptable neighborhood? Also I am interested in this higher cost of living. Is the Giant near my house charging higher prices than the ones EOTP?

Yes they are. Did you really not know this?

signed, food economist mom

I really don't know it, nor do I believe it is true in any way that would significantly impact me, especially considering that where I live I have my choice of walking to two different grocery chains, thus cutting down on the cost of transit to do my shopping.

Then again I'm not a food economist.

I live WOTP but often shop EOTP for a variety of reasons. I am pretty aware of my spending and have never noticed a significant difference in overall prices.

[Anonymous]

Food economist, get two identical carts of goods in van ness giant and a giant just across rockcreek park and report back to us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

So I'd have to give up a walkable school and an easy commute, both of which allow me to spend more time with my family, in order not to be judged by insufferable people like you for "not living the liberal lifestyle"? Um, no thanks. Judge away. Doesn't bother me at all.

+1. And when we bought in 2009, we also looked EOTP (Mt. Pleasant, area around U St, Shaw, Cap Hill) and WOTP. The cheapest house we could find that fit our criteria was WOTP, so here we are. I couldn't care less about "living the liberal lifestyle" because I am a liberal from Europe and have nothing to prove. Of course I also had no clue the park was some sort of ideological divide (what I did naively notice back then, looking at crime maps, was that crime was significantly lower WOTP, and of course I thought that was a plus).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

New poster. First off, I voted for Obama but I try to avoid voting Dem in city elections, and I hope more of you will consider doing the same, especially if you care about education.

Second, I didn't see the deleted thread. But on its face your critique of OP of this thread is unfair. Everyone seems to assume that wotp real estate is universally more expensive than, and wotp people universally more affluent than, the eotp houses/people. That's not the case. For example you can spend a lot more on average in Logan Circle or Mt Pleasant right now than in parts of the Lafayette district. That was even more true in 2009-2010 when a lot of people bought houses during the recession. I don't blame people for prioritizing schools and low crime over walkability to cool bars and transit service. It is ridiculous to assume that wtop people are paying a premium to avoid diversity, if that is what you were trying to suggest.

It's really pointless. The PP is far too focused on her own self-importance to concern herself with things like facts and reality.

If he/she could come back and explain to me about my limited transit I would appreciate it. I am within a 10 minute walk of the metro, the L2, L1, H2, H3, H4, and the entire 30 line. How many more options do I need to qualify as an acceptable neighborhood? Also I am interested in this higher cost of living. Is the Giant near my house charging higher prices than the ones EOTP?

Yes they are. Did you really not know this?

signed, food economist mom

I really don't know it, nor do I believe it is true in any way that would significantly impact me, especially considering that where I live I have my choice of walking to two different grocery chains, thus cutting down on the cost of transit to do my shopping.

Then again I'm not a food economist.

I live WOTP but often shop EOTP for a variety of reasons. I am pretty aware of my spending and have never noticed a significant difference in overall prices.

I used to shop at Wholefoods in Logan Circle and now at Wholefoods in Friendship Heights. I have not noticed a difference in prices, and I am very cost conscious. I did, however, recently notice that a product was cheaper at the Wholefoods on River Rd. So I guess the really frugal people should live and shop in Bethesda!

[Anonymous]

How does really frugal and whole foods get into the same post?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. When we were looking to buy a little while ago being new to the area, we looked at EOTP and WOTP homes that fit our criteria (yard, preferably SFH, close access to Rock Creek Park trails, midway between our commutes in Bethesda and closer to downtown, Deal/Wilson feeder elementary, etc.). We ended up putting bids on two homes in in close succession: one in CCMD close to DC line, and one in Ward 4. Both homes fit our criteria, and were in the same general price range. It's only luck of the draw that the latter bid was accepted and we ended up EOTP.

We do like that our current neighborhood is more diverse in terms of having visible minorities (we are AA), but I think we would've been fine WOTP as well. I think people in this forum like to exaggerate differences based on where you live.

+1, we happened to land in Shepherd Park. I hate that OP has to justify her living choices. Why was the thread removed? It had to do with schools. Don't most threads go OT?

The thread was removed when dumb, dumb OP realized that she was going to be easily identifiable bc there are so few oob in K at Lafayette. She quickly realized it wasn't very smart to mock her dcs future classmates and their families when she essentially removed her cloak of anonymity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. When we were looking to buy a little while ago being new to the area, we looked at EOTP and WOTP homes that fit our criteria (yard, preferably SFH, close access to Rock Creek Park trails, midway between our commutes in Bethesda and closer to downtown, Deal/Wilson feeder elementary, etc.). We ended up putting bids on two homes in in close succession: one in CCMD close to DC line, and one in Ward 4. Both homes fit our criteria, and were in the same general price range. It's only luck of the draw that the latter bid was accepted and we ended up EOTP.

We do like that our current neighborhood is more diverse in terms of having visible minorities (we are AA), but I think we would've been fine WOTP as well. I think people in this forum like to exaggerate differences based on where you live.

+1, we happened to land in Shepherd Park. I hate that OP has to justify her living choices. Why was the thread removed? It had to do with schools. Don't most threads go OT?

It was removed because the OP of that thread didn't like people went off topic about making her feel bad for her choices. Check the website feedback.

OP asked Jeff to remove it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

New poster. First off, I voted for Obama but I try to avoid voting Dem in city elections, and I hope more of you will consider doing the same, especially if you care about education.

Second, I didn't see the deleted thread. But on its face your critique of OP of this thread is unfair. Everyone seems to assume that wotp real estate is universally more expensive than, and wotp people universally more affluent than, the eotp houses/people. That's not the case. For example you can spend a lot more on average in Logan Circle or Mt Pleasant right now than in parts of the Lafayette district. That was even more true in 2009-2010 when a lot of people bought houses during the recession. I don't blame people for prioritizing schools and low crime over walkability to cool bars and transit service. It is ridiculous to assume that wtop people are paying a premium to avoid diversity, if that is what you were trying to suggest.

It's really pointless. The PP is far too focused on her own self-importance to concern herself with things like facts and reality.

If he/she could come back and explain to me about my limited transit I would appreciate it. I am within a 10 minute walk of the metro, the L2, L1, H2, H3, H4, and the entire 30 line. How many more options do I need to qualify as an acceptable neighborhood? Also I am interested in this higher cost of living. Is the Giant near my house charging higher prices than the ones EOTP?

+1. Her self-righteousness and condescension, especially in conjunction with her utter cluelessness about Upper NW, are really nauseating, and do not represent most EOTP parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

New poster. First off, I voted for Obama but I try to avoid voting Dem in city elections, and I hope more of you will consider doing the same, especially if you care about education.

Second, I didn't see the deleted thread. But on its face your critique of OP of this thread is unfair. Everyone seems to assume that wotp real estate is universally more expensive than, and wotp people universally more affluent than, the eotp houses/people. That's not the case. For example you can spend a lot more on average in Logan Circle or Mt Pleasant right now than in parts of the Lafayette district. That was even more true in 2009-2010 when a lot of people bought houses during the recession. I don't blame people for prioritizing schools and low crime over walkability to cool bars and transit service. It is ridiculous to assume that wtop people are paying a premium to avoid diversity, if that is what you were trying to suggest.

This is so true. Every time someone posts a budget saying "I know I can't afford WOTP ... help me find a home" people post links to housing WOTP that the poster actually can afford. Stop believing anonymous hype.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

New poster. First off, I voted for Obama but I try to avoid voting Dem in city elections, and I hope more of you will consider doing the same, especially if you care about education.

Second, I didn't see the deleted thread. But on its face your critique of OP of this thread is unfair. Everyone seems to assume that wotp real estate is universally more expensive than, and wotp people universally more affluent than, the eotp houses/people. That's not the case. For example you can spend a lot more on average in Logan Circle or Mt Pleasant right now than in parts of the Lafayette district. That was even more true in 2009-2010 when a lot of people bought houses during the recession. I don't blame people for prioritizing schools and low crime over walkability to cool bars and transit service. It is ridiculous to assume that wtop people are paying a premium to avoid diversity, if that is what you were trying to suggest.

It's really pointless. The PP is far too focused on her own self-importance to concern herself with things like facts and reality.

If he/she could come back and explain to me about my limited transit I would appreciate it. I am within a 10 minute walk of the metro, the L2, L1, H2, H3, H4, and the entire 30 line. How many more options do I need to qualify as an acceptable neighborhood? Also I am interested in this higher cost of living. Is the Giant near my house charging higher prices than the ones EOTP?

Yes they are. Did you really not know this?

signed, food economist mom

I really don't know it, nor do I believe it is true in any way that would significantly impact me, especially considering that where I live I have my choice of walking to two different grocery chains, thus cutting down on the cost of transit to do my shopping.

Then again I'm not a food economist.

I live WOTP but often shop EOTP for a variety of reasons. I am pretty aware of my spending and have never noticed a significant difference in overall prices.

I used to shop at Wholefoods in Logan Circle and now at Wholefoods in Friendship Heights. I have not noticed a difference in prices, and I am very cost conscious. I did, however, recently notice that a product was cheaper at the Wholefoods on River Rd. So I guess the really frugal people should live and shop in Bethesda!

I shop at the Bethesda Safeway because it is cheaper than the Social Safeway. Though the Social Safeway is the same price as the Park and Shoot (Safeway on the Hill, SE). All that said the Giant on Wisconsin has a beer and wine bar. I will pay anything for that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does really frugal and whole foods get into the same post?

Oh no, not this one again. Have you ever compared the prices between Wholefoods and Giant or Safeway on regular groceries? Sure, Wholefoods has some really expensive stuff, but it is the same or cheaper on a lot of staples. And if I want to save money on produce, I go to Trader Joe's or Rodman's.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does really frugal and whole foods get into the same post?

Oh no, not this one again. Have you ever compared the prices between Wholefoods and Giant or Safeway on regular groceries? Sure, Wholefoods has some really expensive stuff, but it is the same or cheaper on a lot of staples. And if I want to save money on produce, I go to Trader Joe's or Rodman's.

No one buys produce at Trader Joe's. Crazy talk.