Since the Lafayette Thread was Removed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

So I'd have to give up a walkable school and an easy commute, both of which allow me to spend more time with my family, in order not to be judged by insufferable people like you for "not living the liberal lifestyle"? Um, no thanks. Judge away. Doesn't bother me at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. When we were looking to buy a little while ago being new to the area, we looked at EOTP and WOTP homes that fit our criteria (yard, preferably SFH, close access to Rock Creek Park trails, midway between our commutes in Bethesda and closer to downtown, Deal/Wilson feeder elementary, etc.). We ended up putting bids on two homes in in close succession: one in CCMD close to DC line, and one in Ward 4. Both homes fit our criteria, and were in the same general price range. It's only luck of the draw that the latter bid was accepted and we ended up EOTP.

We do like that our current neighborhood is more diverse in terms of having visible minorities (we are AA), but I think we would've been fine WOTP as well. I think people in this forum like to exaggerate differences based on where you live.

+1, we happened to land in Shepherd Park. I hate that OP has to justify her living choices. Why was the thread removed? It had to do with schools. Don't most threads go OT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear you, OP. When we were looking to buy a little while ago being new to the area, we looked at EOTP and WOTP homes that fit our criteria (yard, preferably SFH, close access to Rock Creek Park trails, midway between our commutes in Bethesda and closer to downtown, Deal/Wilson feeder elementary, etc.). We ended up putting bids on two homes in in close succession: one in CCMD close to DC line, and one in Ward 4. Both homes fit our criteria, and were in the same general price range. It's only luck of the draw that the latter bid was accepted and we ended up EOTP.

We do like that our current neighborhood is more diverse in terms of having visible minorities (we are AA), but I think we would've been fine WOTP as well. I think people in this forum like to exaggerate differences based on where you live.

+1, we happened to land in Shepherd Park. I hate that OP has to justify her living choices. Why was the thread removed? It had to do with schools. Don't most threads go OT?

It was removed because the OP of that thread didn't like people went off topic about making her feel bad for her choices. Check the website feedback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

New poster. First off, I voted for Obama but I try to avoid voting Dem in city elections, and I hope more of you will consider doing the same, especially if you care about education.

Second, I didn't see the deleted thread. But on its face your critique of OP of this thread is unfair. Everyone seems to assume that wotp real estate is universally more expensive than, and wotp people universally more affluent than, the eotp houses/people. That's not the case. For example you can spend a lot more on average in Logan Circle or Mt Pleasant right now than in parts of the Lafayette district. That was even more true in 2009-2010 when a lot of people bought houses during the recession. I don't blame people for prioritizing schools and low crime over walkability to cool bars and transit service. It is ridiculous to assume that wtop people are paying a premium to avoid diversity, if that is what you were trying to suggest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

Given that this is DC, maybe that's the problem? Do you understand the corruption inherent to one-party states? If not, see: Russia, Stalin; China, Mao; Cuba, Castro; etc.

Terrific analysis. From whcih of the Fox-bots did ya get this? Hannity? Beck? O'Reilly? Palin?

Do you have an actual counter-argument? Or are you just easily provoked, and easily flummoxed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the issue is the stereotyping - we all know that those are generalizations and that parents everywhere have more in common than not. We're all guilty of it a bit now and then.

The issue is the stereotyping WHILE pondering whether to access/leverage an area's benefits -- in this case an elementary school -- while at the same time propping up the stereotype. That's why posters got so angry.

I'm an EOTPer and I agree. The OP of that thread (a strong EOTPer herself) was mocking WOTP families while looking at a WOTP school. I love being EOTP, it's the right choice for me and my family (and I even tease my best friend who lives WOTP that I can't drive so far to visit) but I also wouldn't mock WOTP families while still using the WOTP schools.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

So I'd have to give up a walkable school and an easy commute, both of which allow me to spend more time with my family, in order not to be judged by insufferable people like you for "not living the liberal lifestyle"? Um, no thanks. Judge away. Doesn't bother me at all.

I'm not judging you at all. I am, however, amused that you can't seem to understand that your choices have consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

So I'd have to give up a walkable school and an easy commute, both of which allow me to spend more time with my family, in order not to be judged by insufferable people like you for "not living the liberal lifestyle"? Um, no thanks. Judge away. Doesn't bother me at all.

I'm not judging you at all. I am, however, amused that you can't seem to understand that your choices have consequences.

What consequences are you referring to? A house and schools I don't need to lottery into? Westerly breezes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

So I'd have to give up a walkable school and an easy commute, both of which allow me to spend more time with my family, in order not to be judged by insufferable people like you for "not living the liberal lifestyle"? Um, no thanks. Judge away. Doesn't bother me at all.

I'm not judging you at all. I am, however, amused that you can't seem to understand that your choices have consequences.

Please do go on with your wisdom. I am clearly a simpleton just here for your amusement. Explain these consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

So I'd have to give up a walkable school and an easy commute, both of which allow me to spend more time with my family, in order not to be judged by insufferable people like you for "not living the liberal lifestyle"? Um, no thanks. Judge away. Doesn't bother me at all.

I'm not judging you at all. I am, however, amused that you can't seem to understand that your choices have consequences.

What consequences are you referring to? A house and schools I don't need to lottery into? Westerly breezes?

Exactly.

Yet, here you are, looking for (demanding, even) validation. Instead of enjoying your life. You're paying for something, some way, some how.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

So I'd have to give up a walkable school and an easy commute, both of which allow me to spend more time with my family, in order not to be judged by insufferable people like you for "not living the liberal lifestyle"? Um, no thanks. Judge away. Doesn't bother me at all.

I'm not judging you at all. I am, however, amused that you can't seem to understand that your choices have consequences.

Are they the same consequences as for a wealthy AA family living WOTP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

New poster. First off, I voted for Obama but I try to avoid voting Dem in city elections, and I hope more of you will consider doing the same, especially if you care about education.

Second, I didn't see the deleted thread. But on its face your critique of OP of this thread is unfair. Everyone seems to assume that wotp real estate is universally more expensive than, and wotp people universally more affluent than, the eotp houses/people. That's not the case. For example you can spend a lot more on average in Logan Circle or Mt Pleasant right now than in parts of the Lafayette district. That was even more true in 2009-2010 when a lot of people bought houses during the recession. I don't blame people for prioritizing schools and low crime over walkability to cool bars and transit service. It is ridiculous to assume that wtop people are paying a premium to avoid diversity, if that is what you were trying to suggest.

It's really pointless. The PP is far too focused on her own self-importance to concern herself with things like facts and reality.

If he/she could come back and explain to me about my limited transit I would appreciate it. I am within a 10 minute walk of the metro, the L2, L1, H2, H3, H4, and the entire 30 line. How many more options do I need to qualify as an acceptable neighborhood? Also I am interested in this higher cost of living. Is the Giant near my house charging higher prices than the ones EOTP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

So I'd have to give up a walkable school and an easy commute, both of which allow me to spend more time with my family, in order not to be judged by insufferable people like you for "not living the liberal lifestyle"? Um, no thanks. Judge away. Doesn't bother me at all.

I'm not judging you at all. I am, however, amused that you can't seem to understand that your choices have consequences.

What consequences are you referring to? A house and schools I don't need to lottery into? Westerly breezes?

Exactly.

Yet, here you are, looking for (demanding, even) validation. Instead of enjoying your life. You're paying for something, some way, some how.

Wow. You are really something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

So I'd have to give up a walkable school and an easy commute, both of which allow me to spend more time with my family, in order not to be judged by insufferable people like you for "not living the liberal lifestyle"? Um, no thanks. Judge away. Doesn't bother me at all.

I'm not judging you at all. I am, however, amused that you can't seem to understand that your choices have consequences.

What consequences are you referring to? A house and schools I don't need to lottery into? Westerly breezes?

Exactly.

Yet, here you are, looking for (demanding, even) validation. Instead of enjoying your life. You're paying for something, some way, some how.

Wow. You are really something.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, this is the schools forum, but most of the above seems like a self-justification entitled, "why I chose to be on the right side of residential segregation and don't want to be judged."

There's a premium for everything in Upper NW, from higher cost of housing to higher cost of living to limited transit, etc., that makes living there a deliberate choice.

Live with it. We all vote Dem, we just don't all live the liberal lifestyle in practice. We can all do better from the position we're in, so just try to do that.

New poster. First off, I voted for Obama but I try to avoid voting Dem in city elections, and I hope more of you will consider doing the same, especially if you care about education.

Second, I didn't see the deleted thread. But on its face your critique of OP of this thread is unfair. Everyone seems to assume that wotp real estate is universally more expensive than, and wotp people universally more affluent than, the eotp houses/people. That's not the case. For example you can spend a lot more on average in Logan Circle or Mt Pleasant right now than in parts of the Lafayette district. That was even more true in 2009-2010 when a lot of people bought houses during the recession. I don't blame people for prioritizing schools and low crime over walkability to cool bars and transit service. It is ridiculous to assume that wtop people are paying a premium to avoid diversity, if that is what you were trying to suggest.

It's really pointless. The PP is far too focused on her own self-importance to concern herself with things like facts and reality.

If he/she could come back and explain to me about my limited transit I would appreciate it. I am within a 10 minute walk of the metro, the L2, L1, H2, H3, H4, and the entire 30 line. How many more options do I need to qualify as an acceptable neighborhood? Also I am interested in this higher cost of living. Is the Giant near my house charging higher prices than the ones EOTP?

Yes they are. Did you really not know this?

signed, food economist mom