How permanent is the Shepherd -> Deal feeder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd feeding to Deal makes no sense. I expect that to change, and Shepherd will be funneled to a more proximate neighborhood school. That whole section of town is improving though, so the school options will improve too.

Not going to happen. If Shepherd was going to change, it would have happened with DME. Sorry. As much as you'd like to boot that last messily 30 kids (usually black) that go to Deal each year, it's not going to happen dear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd feeding to Deal makes no sense. I expect that to change, and Shepherd will be funneled to a more proximate neighborhood school. That whole section of town is improving though, so the school options will improve too.

You can argue that Shepherd to Deal shouldn't be, but I don't think it is correct to say it makes "no sense".
Legacy, IB continuity and Deal's diversity are all good points to support Shepherd remaining a Deal feeder for as long as possible. However, when Deal's overenrollment turns from inconvenience to crisis, Shepherd will likely be the next to go.

[Anonymous]

If Shepherd leaves Deal, is there another IB middle school that can continue the curriculum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Shepherd leaves Deal, is there another IB middle school that can continue the curriculum?

No. And I wouldn't place any bets on either of the unicorn middle schools being IB either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Shepherd leaves Deal, is there another IB middle school that can continue the curriculum?

There are several middle schools that are going for accreditation now. But it's not like this is priority for DC--Thomson and Cooke are IB-PYP and do not feed to an IB-MYP school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd feeding to Deal makes no sense. I expect that to change, and Shepherd will be funneled to a more proximate neighborhood school. That whole section of town is improving though, so the school options will improve too.

You can argue that Shepherd to Deal shouldn't be, but I don't think it is correct to say it makes "no sense".
Legacy, IB continuity and Deal's diversity are all good points to support Shepherd remaining a Deal feeder for as long as possible. However, when Deal's overenrollment turns from inconvenience to crisis, Shepherd will likely be the next to go.

Legacy, an even longer history of IB continuity and feeding diversity to Deal (not to mention proximity) didn't seem to count much when DME decided to boot John Eaton out of Deal.

[Anonymous]

If Shepherd goes so does Bancroft, but neither is going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd feeding to Deal makes no sense. I expect that to change, and Shepherd will be funneled to a more proximate neighborhood school. That whole section of town is improving though, so the school options will improve too.

You can argue that Shepherd to Deal shouldn't be, but I don't think it is correct to say it makes "no sense".
Legacy, IB continuity and Deal's diversity are all good points to support Shepherd remaining a Deal feeder for as long as possible. However, when Deal's overenrollment turns from inconvenience to crisis, Shepherd will likely be the next to go.

It makes no geographic sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd feeding to Deal makes no sense. I expect that to change, and Shepherd will be funneled to a more proximate neighborhood school. That whole section of town is improving though, so the school options will improve too.

You can argue that Shepherd to Deal shouldn't be, but I don't think it is correct to say it makes "no sense".
Legacy, IB continuity and Deal's diversity are all good points to support Shepherd remaining a Deal feeder for as long as possible. However, when Deal's overenrollment turns from inconvenience to crisis, Shepherd will likely be the next to go.

Legacy, an even longer history of IB continuity and feeding diversity to Deal (not to mention proximity) didn't seem to count much when DME decided to boot John Eaton out of Deal.

You're right, it doesn't mean much, but it meant something.

By "IB" I meant "International Baccalaureate". Is Eaton IB? I honestly don't know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd feeding to Deal makes no sense. I expect that to change, and Shepherd will be funneled to a more proximate neighborhood school. That whole section of town is improving though, so the school options will improve too.

You can argue that Shepherd to Deal shouldn't be, but I don't think it is correct to say it makes "no sense".
Legacy, IB continuity and Deal's diversity are all good points to support Shepherd remaining a Deal feeder for as long as possible. However, when Deal's overenrollment turns from inconvenience to crisis, Shepherd will likely be the next to go.

Legacy, an even longer history of IB continuity and feeding diversity to Deal (not to mention proximity) didn't seem to count much when DME decided to boot John Eaton out of Deal.

No, the in boundary population for eaton is mot diverse. It is wealthy and white. It was clear in the dme process that they look at in boundary demographics for the diversity aspect. This makes sense, because oob is random and all deal (and hardy) feeders are becoming more in boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd feeding to Deal makes no sense. I expect that to change, and Shepherd will be funneled to a more proximate neighborhood school. That whole section of town is improving though, so the school options will improve too.

You can argue that Shepherd to Deal shouldn't be, but I don't think it is correct to say it makes "no sense".
Legacy, IB continuity and Deal's diversity are all good points to support Shepherd remaining a Deal feeder for as long as possible. However, when Deal's overenrollment turns from inconvenience to crisis, Shepherd will likely be the next to go.

Legacy, an even longer history of IB continuity and feeding diversity to Deal (not to mention proximity) didn't seem to count much when DME decided to boot John Eaton out of Deal.

No, the in boundary population for eaton is mot diverse. It is wealthy and white. It was clear in the dme process that they look at in boundary demographics for the diversity aspect. This makes sense, because oob is random and all deal (and hardy) feeders are becoming more in boundary.

You would be surprised at the number of IB students at Eaton who are not from wealthy families (or white). Many live in small, unrenovated apartment units near Conn.. Ave and Wisconsin Ave. But the bottom line is that Eaton is still about 70% OOB, so it's not about to flip soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shepherd feeding to Deal makes no sense. I expect that to change, and Shepherd will be funneled to a more proximate neighborhood school. That whole section of town is improving though, so the school options will improve too.

You can argue that Shepherd to Deal shouldn't be, but I don't think it is correct to say it makes "no sense".
Legacy, IB continuity and Deal's diversity are all good points to support Shepherd remaining a Deal feeder for as long as possible. However, when Deal's overenrollment turns from inconvenience to crisis, Shepherd will likely be the next to go.

Legacy, an even longer history of IB continuity and feeding diversity to Deal (not to mention proximity) didn't seem to count much when DME decided to boot John Eaton out of Deal.

No, the in boundary population for eaton is mot diverse. It is wealthy and white. It was clear in the dme process that they look at in boundary demographics for the diversity aspect. This makes sense, because oob is random and all deal (and hardy) feeders are becoming more in boundary.

You would be surprised at the number of IB students at Eaton who are not from wealthy families (or white). Many live in small, unrenovated apartment units near Conn.. Ave and Wisconsin Ave. But the bottom line is that Eaton is still about 70% OOB, so it's not about to flip soon.

They look at the IB school aged child population. For eaton it is white and wealthy. Yes there are exceptions, and yes the families who choose eaton over other elementary school options may skew less white and less wealthy, but that's neither here nor there. The point is, it is neighborhood kid demographics, not school demigraphics, that drive the diversity analysis, IIUC. Anyway, even if you look at current school population, even including OOB, eaton is not diverse by DC standards, meaning, it is not majority poor or majority minority.

But we're taking the thread off topic...
OP, i'd say you can count on Deal for 10 more years. After that, tough to predict.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
They look at the IB school aged child population. For eaton it is white and wealthy. Yes there are exceptions, and yes the families who choose eaton over other elementary school options may skew less white and less wealthy, but that's neither here nor there. The point is, it is neighborhood kid demographics, not school demigraphics, that drive the diversity analysis, IIUC. Anyway, even if you look at current school population, even including OOB, eaton is not diverse by DC standards, meaning, it is not majority poor or majority minority.

But we're taking the thread off topic...
OP, i'd say you can count on Deal for 10 more years. After that, tough to predict.

Having followed the boundary revision process closely I can say I saw zero evidence that anyone looked at the IB population demographics. I saw zero evidence that they were looking at anything other than the kids currently attending public, private school kids were completely left out. Were stereotypes and hunches consulted? In abundance. But actual facts? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
They look at the IB school aged child population. For eaton it is white and wealthy. Yes there are exceptions, and yes the families who choose eaton over other elementary school options may skew less white and less wealthy, but that's neither here nor there. The point is, it is neighborhood kid demographics, not school demigraphics, that drive the diversity analysis, IIUC. Anyway, even if you look at current school population, even including OOB, eaton is not diverse by DC standards, meaning, it is not majority poor or majority minority.

But we're taking the thread off topic...
OP, i'd say you can count on Deal for 10 more years. After that, tough to predict.

Having followed the boundary revision process closely I can say I saw zero evidence that anyone looked at the IB population demographics. I saw zero evidence that they were looking at anything other than the kids currently attending public, private school kids were completely left out. Were stereotypes and hunches consulted? In abundance. But actual facts? No.

Did you read the dme docs in the sticky thread? They look at ib demographics, incl public and charter. You may be correct that they exclude private.