12-yr-old Milwaukee girls stab friend 10 times!

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Yes, my kid has an ipod too. She is 8, so I went into settings and disabled a bunch of stuff. I even thought it was funny when I couldn't figure out later why she didn't have an app store, and then I realized it was because I disabled it. Safari is not enabled, and since she is so young, she hasn't even asked about it. All she does is play minecraft and a horse game. I look at it frequently while she is playing to make sure. But I am worried about this as she gets older.

An ipod at 8? What is she going to have when she's 10? 12?

As a teacher, I am continually frustrated at the decisions parents make which affect kids' attention spans, social expectations, etc.

Weren't the kids' iPads provided by the school in this case?

Where does it say that?

In the versions of the news stories that aren't trying to cover that fact up...

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Anonymous wrote:Never confuse what a school itself endorses for what trained educators endorse.

It seems to me that if 'trained educators' are teaching in the schools that endorse this stuff, they are endorsing it as well, at least as far as a paycheck is concerned. Time to switch careers if the disconnect is his profound.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I'm naive about how kids are influenced, but I would think at age 12 kids would be able to discern right from wrong and realize how serious hurting or killing someone is.

My son just turned 13. And he certainly could have, and at a much earlier age.

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Anonymous wrote:Never confuse what a school itself endorses for what trained educators endorse.

It seems to me that if 'trained educators' are teaching in the schools that endorse this stuff, they are endorsing it as well, at least as far as a paycheck is concerned. Time to switch careers if the disconnect is his profound.

New poster. Oh yes, because it's SOOOOO easy to switch careers and teachers who disagree with administrators should all just quit. Excellent critical thinking skills you have there. Would you apply this same logic to yourself and your own family's livelihood? You sound like an ass.

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Anonymous wrote:Never confuse what a school itself endorses for what trained educators endorse.

It seems to me that if 'trained educators' are teaching in the schools that endorse this stuff, they are endorsing it as well, at least as far as a paycheck is concerned. Time to switch careers if the disconnect is his profound.

+1. My 5yo gets this.

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This happened in the UK before the internet - look at Jamie Bulger. Some percentage of kids are potentially violent psychopaths with no moral compass, and it has always been that way.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I'm naive about how kids are influenced, but I would think at age 12 kids would be able to discern right from wrong and realize how serious hurting or killing someone is.

Only if they were parented to learn realistic consequences for their actions.

The parent who is terrified that they will stifle their child's spirit by imposing any rules or consequences will raise a child who has no sense of their actions' impact on others. We live across from a skater who has dented several cars in our parking lot. He was finally caught on film so the parents couldn't deny it. They paid the damages for the last car and he still has the skateboard.

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Anonymous wrote:"They had something to prove to someone they found on a ghoulish website. So, two girls allegedly lured a third girl into a wooded area in Milwaukee over the weekend and stabbed her 19 times, police in Wisconsin said...The girls were trying to impress a certain "Slenderman," the complaint read. One of the girls encountered the name on a website known as Creepypasta Wiki, which posts horror stories.

Slenderman is the site's supposed leader, and to climb up into his realm, a user must kill someone, one of the suspects told police."

WTH? What is wrong with these girls and why aren't adults monitoring their Internet usage??

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/justice/wisconsin-girl-stabbed/index.html?c=homepage-t

You answered your own question. People love to say media does not influence children but it does. Why wouldn't it?

People did horrible things before the internet. When I was a teen some of these type of kids were obsessed with Satanism. It was the "big thing" for creeps. There have always been sick people. The internet did not create them.

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Anonymous wrote:Look what they can create on an iPad!

...or what my kids create with Legos, paint sets, calligraphy pens.

Why do you think fine arts and technology are mutually exclusive?

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This type of thing existed before the internet but the internet amplifies everything. Like porn.

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Yes, my kid has an ipod too. She is 8, so I went into settings and disabled a bunch of stuff. I even thought it was funny when I couldn't figure out later why she didn't have an app store, and then I realized it was because I disabled it. Safari is not enabled, and since she is so young, she hasn't even asked about it. All she does is play minecraft and a horse game. I look at it frequently while she is playing to make sure. But I am worried about this as she gets older.

An ipod at 8? What is she going to have when she's 10? 12?

As a teacher, I am continually frustrated at the decisions parents make which affect kids' attention spans, social expectations, etc.

Really? The other kids in her class either have an ipod, kindle or ipad. She is not an outlier at all. She does not have unlimited access to it. She only uses it in our living room, and like I said, she mostly plays minecraft on it. And she shows me what she creates. Look mom at my cats, my horse, what should I make next, maybe a waterpark? That is what my dd is doing on her ipod.

And you think playing minecraft is a good use of an 8 year olds time? Sorry, I agree with the teacher. She's too young to be so absorbed in this PP, although I know it must make a convenient babysitter for you.

Do you know how to use java programming? My 8yr old does. He creates mods in Java.

Do you have any idea how complex that is? We are talking college level programming here. Some of these kids are starting to learn this at 8yrs old. As someone who has a career in IT, I know for a FACT that my son already has a huge advantage. Once you start to understand the fundamentals of completer languages, the possibilities are endless in today's world.

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Anonymous wrote:This type of thing existed before the internet but the internet amplifies everything. Like porn.

a sensational 24x7 news cycle amplifies everything.

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"Do you know how to use java programming? My 8yr old does. He creates mods in Java.

Do you have any idea how complex that is? We are talking college level programming here. Some of these kids are starting to learn this at 8yrs old. As someone who has a career in IT, I know for a FACT that my son already has a huge advantage. "

A shame, though, that he's socially and creatively inept.

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Anonymous wrote:This type of thing existed before the internet but the internet amplifies everything. Like porn.

a sensational 24x7 news cycle amplifies everything.

True dat, but it's in part because of the internet. A bored person can immerse themselves in a current event through news sites and forums like these.

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Anonymous wrote:What a horrible thing to happen. Makes me not want my kids to have a computer at all.

Believe me, I have this same thought at least once a day. But it's a horrible tightrope to have to walk. After all, in order to be considered well-educated in their generation, they are going to have to be tech savvy. So the only way to do it is through complete vigilance on the parent's part. I feel like it's tougher to chase my kid and her iPod around now than it was to chase her around when she was 19 months old!

I personally think the "tech-savvy" rationale is overrated. They aren't coding on the ipod. They are playing games, using email, etc. None of these things are really becoming tech savvy

AMEN. I feel the exact same way and have wanted to say the same thing to people who boast that their kindergartener's classroom passes out iPads. This will not made them tech geniuses. Thank you.