Anyone worried about inexperienced teachers at MV, YY, CM and other HRCS?

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Anonymous wrote:IT master teachers are very experienced. I think the average years experience is 8-10. There were 2 exceptions this year where 2 graduated resident teachers were hired this year. We are in a class with a resident teacher from last year is leading the class. You would never know they're in 2nd year of teaching. I think it's a great testament to the Center For Inspired Teaching as well as the school.

My DD teacher, Pk3 was under the IT program last year and is doing very well in DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:it is true that many charters have less experienced teachers however their academic credentials are typically superior. Given enough time, many of these teachers will far outclass the typical DCPS teacher.

Academic credentials? If all of my children's teachers are educated by a giant, average state school, love and are good at teaching, excel at classroom management, and provide a safe and nurturing environment, I will take them over a 4 year ivy educated recent grad every single time.

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Anonymous wrote:IT master teachers are very experienced. I think the average years experience is 8-10. There were 2 exceptions this year where 2 graduated resident teachers were hired this year. We are in a class with a resident teacher from last year is leading the class. You would never know they're in 2nd year of teaching. I think it's a great testament to the Center For Inspired Teaching as well as the school.

My DD teacher, Pk3 was under the IT program last year and is doing very well in DCPS.

Agreed. In summary, Master teachers at ITS have a lot of experience (and energy). They do a great job leading the fellows so they can go into the city and lead their own classrooms. ITS resident graduates are now lead teachers at many DCPS schools, ITS, Stokes, CM, Shining Stars (that I can think of).

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Anonymous wrote:When I look at the description of MV's teachers, a number have education policy experience, teaching ESL experience, but seems that few have classroom experience as a lead teacher in a school for more than two years.

This is true and maybe why they can't control the disruption of some classrooms.

Could you please expound? Are the disruptions in the older/younger classrooms, boys/girls? Is this issue only with selected classrooms or pervasive in the school? How does the principle handle discipline issues?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it is true that many charters have less experienced teachers however their academic credentials are typically superior. Given enough time, many of these teachers will far outclass the typical DCPS teacher.

This is particularly true with respect to evaluations. Older teachers are highly resistant to results-based evaluations, data-driven metrics, and general standards. Good young teachers expect that and take to it as part of the improvement process.

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The research generally indicates that on average, teachers are at their worst in their first two years. After three years, there isn't much increase in quality associated with more years of experience. Quality, however, is often measured by test scores. It may also be that those first two years just weed out people with below average aptitude.

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Anonymous wrote:it is true that many charters have less experienced teachers however their academic credentials are typically superior. Given enough time, many of these teachers will far outclass the typical DCPS teacher.

This is particularly true with respect to evaluations. Older teachers are highly resistant to results-based evaluations, data-driven metrics, and general standards. Good young teachers expect that and take to it as part of the improvement process.

Awww, TFA lady you can one day be a good teacher, too. But until then don't bash those 'older' teachers who are resistant to data OR just better than you are at your job.

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Anonymous wrote:it is true that many charters have less experienced teachers however their academic credentials are typically superior. Given enough time, many of these teachers will far outclass the typical DCPS teacher.

Academic credentials? If all of my children's teachers are educated by a giant, average state school, love and are good at teaching, excel at classroom management, and provide a safe and nurturing environment, I will take them over a 4 year ivy educated recent grad every single time.

Yeah but that typical dcps teacher just does not love teaching nor excel at classroom management. At the same time, I would have a hard time doing those things given the typical DCPS student.

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Anonymous wrote:it is true that many charters have less experienced teachers however their academic credentials are typically superior. Given enough time, many of these teachers will far outclass the typical DCPS teacher.

Yeah, a burnt out teacher with 30 years of experience and a high school degree vs. a young creative teacher with 3 years of experience, a Master's in Education and excited to be there.

Which one do you choose?

Why does it have to be an either/or decision? I've known both first year and highly experienced teachers who were amazing and also known both first year/experienced teachers who burned out and quit.

By the way I don't think you can get hired as a teacher without a college diploma.

[Anonymous]

TFA doesn't place teachers at IT (or MV or CM or YY, I'd imagine). IT does its own hiring for master, lead, and resident teachers. They come from a variety of backgrounds with varying years of experience. We are a founding family at IT and have been thoroughly impressed with the caliber of teachers (of all types, including paraprofessionals/assistants) of the classrooms of our children.

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Anonymous wrote:So at Janney - 2 current teachers came from a preschool - 1 a teacher who was a fellow at CCPCS.

Anyone concerend about the quality of teachers at Janney?

This would make me very concerned. Teachings preschool is very, very different than elementary

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it is true that many charters have less experienced teachers however their academic credentials are typically superior. Given enough time, many of these teachers will far outclass the typical DCPS teacher.

Yeah, a burnt out teacher with 30 years of experience and a high school degree vs. a young creative teacher with 3 years of experience, a Master's in Education and excited to be there.

Which one do you choose?

Why does it have to be an either/or decision? I've known both first year and highly experienced teachers who were amazing and also known both first year/experienced teachers who burned out and quit.

By the way I don't think you can get hired as a teacher without a college diploma.

Now, but 20 years ago?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TFA doesn't place teachers at IT (or MV or CM or YY, I'd imagine). IT does its own hiring for master, lead, and resident teachers. They come from a variety of backgrounds with varying years of experience. We are a founding family at IT and have been thoroughly impressed with the caliber of teachers (of all types, including paraprofessionals/assistants) of the classrooms of our children.

Most of the charter schools you have listed there are looking for specific types of teachers as well. Native speakers, child center educators, arts based, Montessori (LAMB) whatever... I know at our charter school they specifically look for teachers trained in our approach, or they train them once they are on board. Not worried about our teachers at all.

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Anonymous wrote:it is true that many charters have less experienced teachers however their academic credentials are typically superior. Given enough time, many of these teachers will far outclass the typical DCPS teacher.

Academic credentials? If all of my children's teachers are educated by a giant, average state school, love and are good at teaching, excel at classroom management, and provide a safe and nurturing environment, I will take them over a 4 year ivy educated recent grad every single time.

+1 From what I've seen of the Ivy grads, they'll inevitably get bored and want to move up (to administration, a think tank, etc.) or leave education. I'll take the traditional kind of teacher too. They are the ones will want to make teaching their career.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it is true that many charters have less experienced teachers however their academic credentials are typically superior. Given enough time, many of these teachers will far outclass the typical DCPS teacher.

Yeah, a burnt out teacher with 30 years of experience and a high school degree vs. a young creative teacher with 3 years of experience, a Master's in Education and excited to be there.

Which one do you choose?

Why does it have to be an either/or decision? I've known both first year and highly experienced teachers who were amazing and also known both first year/experienced teachers who burned out and quit.

By the way I don't think you can get hired as a teacher without a college diploma.

Now, but 20 years ago?

Pretty sure the requirements haven't changed much.