Lyon Village home placements are exactly like the cramped McMansion Tracts of Ashburn

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Anonymous wrote:The house posted by the OP is not in either Lyon Village or Lyon Park, and the neighborhood really doesn't look anything like Ashburn. It's kind of an odd thread.

I do like the house, though.

Actually in a McMansion tract development you will probably get more yard space.

Are those duplexes in the lower rows? Why two separate driveways for same house?

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FWIW, these houses are in Maywood/Woodmont so neither Lyon Village or Lyon Park. I agree w PP some of the big houses are very close together in that part right off Lorcom.

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The house on Fillmore St. is in Maywood.

Maywood is north of Lee Highway south of Lorcom Lane.

Woodmont is north of Lorcom Lane.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep LV very compact. And when they get their train station in 2030, they'll be just like LV except with an hour-long train ride to DC. No one moves to LV for spacious lots.

Now people do move to Cashburn for bigger lots for less, but perhaps the decline of exurban living has pushed developers to make things leaner?

Ashburn isn't really an "exurb," given its proximity to jobs in Dulles and Western Fairfax, and it's had developments with small lots for a long time.

Ashburn is an exurb where people of bicycles or pedestrians are considered weird.

Most people who live in Ashburn work in neighboring reston/herndon or "commute" to Tysons. I work in reston and overwhelming my co workers are from Ashburn. They have a shorter commute than I. We are off the bike trail and many people bike to work on the trail. The main reston bus stop has installed bike lokers. Tons of bikers.

I'm considering a move to Ashburn, but there too I've found the real estate market very hot and don't have the energy for a bidding war over a house already 600k+.

Many of you are mistaken about Ashburn. I've been out there quite a lot for parties at co workers and there are nice walking trails everywhere and tons of bikers....huge groups of them as a matter of fact heading on and off the trail.

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I would consider Ashburn an exurb, just like I consider any area an exurb if you're unlikely to be making a commute into DC proper.
Close-in suburbs: Arlington, parts of Alexandria, Bethesda, Silver Spring, city of Falls Church.
Farther-out suburbs: most of Fairfax County, Rockville, Germantown, Gaithersburg, Reston, maybe Herndon.
Exurbs: Woodbridge/Dumfries, Haymarket, Ashburn, Sterling, Leesburg, Manassas, Boyds/Clarksville.

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10:52 - I mean Clarksburg, not Clarksville. (I think.)

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I've seen plenty of loundon county buses for the ashburn-dc commuters

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Anonymous wrote:I would consider Ashburn an exurb, just like I consider any area an exurb if you're unlikely to be making a commute into DC proper.
Close-in suburbs: Arlington, parts of Alexandria, Bethesda, Silver Spring, city of Falls Church.
Farther-out suburbs: most of Fairfax County, Rockville, Germantown, Gaithersburg, Reston, maybe Herndon.
Exurbs: Woodbridge/Dumfries, Haymarket, Ashburn, Sterling, Leesburg, Manassas, Boyds/Clarksville.

This is Alice in Wonderland stuff. You can say whatever you want, but it doesn't mean it makes a great deal of sense.

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exurb = beyond range of VRE/commuter buses?

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Anonymous wrote:I would consider Ashburn an exurb, just like I consider any area an exurb if you're unlikely to be making a commute into DC proper.
Close-in suburbs: Arlington, parts of Alexandria, Bethesda, Silver Spring, city of Falls Church.
Farther-out suburbs: most of Fairfax County, Rockville, Germantown, Gaithersburg, Reston, maybe Herndon.
Exurbs: Woodbridge/Dumfries, Haymarket, Ashburn, Sterling, Leesburg, Manassas, Boyds/Clarksville.

This is Alice in Wonderland stuff. You can say whatever you want, but it doesn't mean it makes a great deal of sense.

This is exactly true. Just because you know a handful of extreme commuters that commute from exurbs to city, doesn't change the fact it is an exurb.

Come-on, Wikipedia define's Loudoun County in the exurb page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commuter_town

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would consider Ashburn an exurb, just like I consider any area an exurb if you're unlikely to be making a commute into DC proper.
Close-in suburbs: Arlington, parts of Alexandria, Bethesda, Silver Spring, city of Falls Church.
Farther-out suburbs: most of Fairfax County, Rockville, Germantown, Gaithersburg, Reston, maybe Herndon.
Exurbs: Woodbridge/Dumfries, Haymarket, Ashburn, Sterling, Leesburg, Manassas, Boyds/Clarksville.

This is Alice in Wonderland stuff. You can say whatever you want, but it doesn't mean it makes a great deal of sense.

This is exactly true. Just because you know a handful of extreme commuters that commute from exurbs to city, doesn't change the fact it is an exurb.

Come-on, Wikipedia define's Loudoun County in the exurb page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commuter_town

Wikipedia is...just Wikipedia.

I'd defer more to this Brookings study from 2006: http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/reports/2006/10/metropolitanpolicy%20berube/20061017_exurbia.pdf

Notably, even then, only a portion of Eastern Loudoun was characterized as exurban, and it didn't include Ashburn. With the passage of time and employment growth in western Fairfax and eastern Loudoun, even less of Loudoun would be considered exurban today.

And, just to be clear, it would more likely, not less likely, be deemed an "exurb" if there were more "extreme commuters" traveling to jobs in the center city.

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Regardless of name, keep in mind that not everyone commutes into DC.

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Ashburn is more than 30 miles outside of central DC. I'd call that an exurb, personally. by contrast, Woodbridge is only about 20. It doesn't really matter whether you're commuting into DC or not - if you're 30 miles outside of the nearest major city, you're pretty far out. Everyone will have different definitions of suburbs vs. exurbs, and when it comes down to it, who really cares. Live where you want. I'm not saying it's not a nice place to live - plenty of people seem to think so. It's just not somewhere you live if you actually want to be close to DC on a daily basis.

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Anonymous wrote:Ashburn is more than 30 miles outside of central DC. I'd call that an exurb, personally. by contrast, Woodbridge is only about 20. It doesn't really matter whether you're commuting into DC or not - if you're 30 miles outside of the nearest major city, you're pretty far out. Everyone will have different definitions of suburbs vs. exurbs, and when it comes down to it, who really cares. Live where you want. I'm not saying it's not a nice place to live - plenty of people seem to think so. It's just not somewhere you live if you actually want to be close to DC on a daily basis.

I wouldn't view it as an exurb if most people there have shorter commutes to jobs in NoVa. Both DC and the distance from Ashburn to DC become irrelevant.

Brookings apparently agrees.

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Arlington and Fairfax counties - suburbs of DC

Loudoun county and beyond - exurbs.

There, done. I'm sorry the Loudoun posters can't handle it.
FWIW, I used to live in Ashburn Village and in no way shape or form would I consider Ashburn a suburb of DC.

Loudoun posters - why so defensive on this topic? You guys are in an area of tremendous growth due to all the tech business out in the Dulles corridor. I would be celebrating that fact.