Why are DMV Private Schools 40% More Expensive than Baltimore Schools?

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Anonymous wrote:My colleague just bought an old Victorian in Baltimore in what she claims is one of the best school districts for somewhere around $125k. Literally, they put $5k down. That would buy a parking spot, or maybe two, in a sought-after DC neighborhood. I'm surprised there isn't a bigger difference in tuition between Baltimore and DC.


I wish this were true. SFH in the best city school district (Roland Park) is more like starting at $250-300k -- and goes way up. Still a bargain by DC standards.


Anything in RP at these prices is a shack. $500,000 plus for a good place, over $800,000 for a truly nice, fully renovated place.


How much for a built in planetarium?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, private school in NYC is $40K - life is more expensive there.

http://www.spenceschool.org/admissions/pdfs/tuition.pdf



OP here. That I get - nobody would question the difference in cost of living between DC Metro and NYC.


But you think Baltimore and DC are on par????
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:In related news, Baltimore is a shithole.


This. Lived there and it's a dangerous dump of a city.


Ah, relax, princess. It ain't the most glamorous town around, but there's a lot to love about Baltimore. But you just stay in NW DC or Fairfax county or wherever you feel safe. More for us, hon.


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Sigh. The city isn't...how shall we say it... "manicured," or built up with gleaming new chain restaurants. But it has a lot of character, a lot of nice places to spend time, and it's very down-to-earth/honest and diverse. (My neighborhood has a range of incomes, and several distinct communities, and I am on a first name basis with most of my neighbors, something I've experienced in few places.) To me, this city is very comfortable and a lot of fun, even with the problems. Its problems are not insignificant, but neither are they insufferable. I plan to stay here for life, assuming our jobs hold, and yes, I have small children. It doesn't hurt that my mortgage is only 150,000.

Anyway, I get it: Baltimore is a very particular kind of place, and you either really like it old brick buildings and working class cities that have converted store fronts to weird little cafes, or you don't. In your case, I presume, this isn't your cuppa. But to claim this makes the city "a dangerous dump" (or a "sh***ole" as an earlier poster said), just makes you sound like you left the burbs and couldn't "deal." Its like listening to people who don't like spicy food brag about how they are incapable of eating anything but hamburgers. We can go eat hamburgers if you want, but do you really have to go on about your narrow palate?
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My colleague just bought an old Victorian in Baltimore in what she claims is one of the best school districts for somewhere around $125k. Literally, they put $5k down. That would buy a parking spot, or maybe two, in a sought-after DC neighborhood. I'm surprised there isn't a bigger difference in tuition between Baltimore and DC.


No, I live in Baltimore, this is not possible. Housing prices are maybe half of dc not five percent. So a house that is $1.5 million in DC/No. Va/ MD wouldaround $750,000 to 800,000 here. Big houses in the most desirable suburbs (i.e. Ruxton, Monkton) are well over a million. Even in the city, great houses in Guilford and Roland Park are $750,000 and up, with ridiculously high property taxes. You might be able to get a cottage in a "hot" city neighborhood for $400,000 to $500,000.


Well, if you are talking a home price for a place to live that is small but cute and safe, I believe this tale. We bought a rowhouse for about 165,000 (mortgage is less) and feel very safe where we live. This is four a 4-bedroom house, 1300 sq ft or so, with front and back yards. Nothing fancy. Our neighborhood starts around 100k and probably tops out in the 200s somewhere.

This friend's claim to have a very good school district may not follow, however. There are few Baltimore schools one can say are "good" without some major reservation. Some are workable. It depends on your perspective. I will be investigating our neighborhood school, but we're already assuming that we'll tour private schools.
Anonymous
Supply and demand! The Baltimore area has quite a few schools for the city size. Single sex, coed progressive, religious, boarding, horse crowd. Also, a lot of people, mainly those outside of the city don't need to send their kids to private but do so because of tradition and Baltimore's ridiculous strong where did you go to HS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In related news, Baltimore is a shithole.


This. Lived there and it's a dangerous dump of a city.


Ah, relax, princess. It ain't the most glamorous town around, but there's a lot to love about Baltimore. But you just stay in NW DC or Fairfax county or wherever you feel safe. More for us, hon.


+1

Sigh. The city isn't...how shall we say it... "manicured," or built up with gleaming new chain restaurants. But it has a lot of character, a lot of nice places to spend time, and it's very down-to-earth/honest and diverse. (My neighborhood has a range of incomes, and several distinct communities, and I am on a first name basis with most of my neighbors, something I've experienced in few places.) To me, this city is very comfortable and a lot of fun, even with the problems. Its problems are not insignificant, but neither are they insufferable. I plan to stay here for life, assuming our jobs hold, and yes, I have small children. It doesn't hurt that my mortgage is only 150,000.

Anyway, I get it: Baltimore is a very particular kind of place, and you either really like it old brick buildings and working class cities that have converted store fronts to weird little cafes, or you don't. In your case, I presume, this isn't your cuppa. But to claim this makes the city "a dangerous dump" (or a "sh***ole" as an earlier poster said), just makes you sound like you left the burbs and couldn't "deal." Its like listening to people who don't like spicy food brag about how they are incapable of eating anything but hamburgers. We can go eat hamburgers if you want, but do you really have to go on about your narrow palate?
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Lady, look up the crime statistics in NW and Baltimore. NW is Switzerland, Baltimore is Nigeria. That's what previous PP was talking about, not about "weird little cafes."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In related news, Baltimore is a shithole.


This. Lived there and it's a dangerous dump of a city.


Ah, relax, princess. It ain't the most glamorous town around, but there's a lot to love about Baltimore. But you just stay in NW DC or Fairfax county or wherever you feel safe. More for us, hon.


+1

Sigh. The city isn't...how shall we say it... "manicured," or built up with gleaming new chain restaurants. But it has a lot of character, a lot of nice places to spend time, and it's very down-to-earth/honest and diverse. (My neighborhood has a range of incomes, and several distinct communities, and I am on a first name basis with most of my neighbors, something I've experienced in few places.) To me, this city is very comfortable and a lot of fun, even with the problems. Its problems are not insignificant, but neither are they insufferable. I plan to stay here for life, assuming our jobs hold, and yes, I have small children. It doesn't hurt that my mortgage is only 150,000.

Anyway, I get it: Baltimore is a very particular kind of place, and you either really like it old brick buildings and working class cities that have converted store fronts to weird little cafes, or you don't. In your case, I presume, this isn't your cuppa. But to claim this makes the city "a dangerous dump" (or a "sh***ole" as an earlier poster said), just makes you sound like you left the burbs and couldn't "deal." Its like listening to people who don't like spicy food brag about how they are incapable of eating anything but hamburgers. We can go eat hamburgers if you want, but do you really have to go on about your narrow palate?
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Lady, look up the crime statistics in NW and Baltimore. NW is Switzerland, Baltimore is Nigeria. That's what previous PP was talking about, not about "weird little cafes."


Comparing the NW to Baltimore isn't a very fair comparison -- crime in Baltimore, like dc, is predominantly located in its poorest neighborhoods and related to the drug trade.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My colleague just bought an old Victorian in Baltimore in what she claims is one of the best school districts for somewhere around $125k. Literally, they put $5k down. That would buy a parking spot, or maybe two, in a sought-after DC neighborhood. I'm surprised there isn't a bigger difference in tuition between Baltimore and DC.


No, I live in Baltimore, this is not possible. Housing prices are maybe half of dc not five percent. So a house that is $1.5 million in DC/No. Va/ MD wouldaround $750,000 to 800,000 here. Big houses in the most desirable suburbs (i.e. Ruxton, Monkton) are well over a million. Even in the city, great houses in Guilford and Roland Park are $750,000 and up, with ridiculously high property taxes. You might be able to get a cottage in a "hot" city neighborhood for $400,000 to $500,000.


Well, if you are talking a home price for a place to live that is small but cute and safe, I believe this tale. We bought a rowhouse for about 165,000 (mortgage is less) and feel very safe where we live. This is four a 4-bedroom house, 1300 sq ft or so, with front and back yards. Nothing fancy. Our neighborhood starts around 100k and probably tops out in the 200s somewhere.

This friend's claim to have a very good school district may not follow, however. There are few Baltimore schools one can say are "good" without some major reservation. Some are workable. It depends on your perspective. I will be investigating our neighborhood school, but we're already assuming that we'll tour private schools.


The school district part is what makes it false. Roland Park and Mount Washington are the only "good" districts in the city, and housing prices in those areas are much higher for that reason (as well as the historical quality of those neighborhoods).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In related news, Baltimore is a shithole.


This. Lived there and it's a dangerous dump of a city.


Ah, relax, princess. It ain't the most glamorous town around, but there's a lot to love about Baltimore. But you just stay in NW DC or Fairfax county or wherever you feel safe. More for us, hon.


+1

Sigh. The city isn't...how shall we say it... "manicured," or built up with gleaming new chain restaurants. But it has a lot of character, a lot of nice places to spend time, and it's very down-to-earth/honest and diverse. (My neighborhood has a range of incomes, and several distinct communities, and I am on a first name basis with most of my neighbors, something I've experienced in few places.) To me, this city is very comfortable and a lot of fun, even with the problems. Its problems are not insignificant, but neither are they insufferable. I plan to stay here for life, assuming our jobs hold, and yes, I have small children. It doesn't hurt that my mortgage is only 150,000.

Anyway, I get it: Baltimore is a very particular kind of place, and you either really like it old brick buildings and working class cities that have converted store fronts to weird little cafes, or you don't. In your case, I presume, this isn't your cuppa. But to claim this makes the city "a dangerous dump" (or a "sh***ole" as an earlier poster said), just makes you sound like you left the burbs and couldn't "deal." Its like listening to people who don't like spicy food brag about how they are incapable of eating anything but hamburgers. We can go eat hamburgers if you want, but do you really have to go on about your narrow palate?
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Lady, look up the crime statistics in NW and Baltimore. NW is Switzerland, Baltimore is Nigeria. That's what previous PP was talking about, not about "weird little cafes."


Why would you compare the safest part of DC to Baltimore as a whole? There are places in Baltimore I don't go. I bet you anything the places in DC that you don't go. In fact, name any city on the planet and chances are high there's a section of it that has high crime. Take the top 20th percentile of home prices in each city, and I think you'll find that the crime rates are more similar than they are different. Of course, the top 20th percentile in DC will be a hell of a lot more expensive than the top 20 percentile in Baltimore!

Anonymous
Two words: Bodymore Murderland.

No one wants to live there.
Anonymous
Don't lots of Baltimore private school kids live in the burbs?
Anonymous
Yes or they live in the nicer areas of the city (Roland Park, Guilford, Homeland). In fact, most of the Baltimore private schools are right along the northern line of the city/county line).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don't lots of Baltimore private school kids live in the burbs?


Baltimore County has good public schools, so most suburban residents send their children to public schools unless they have a family connection to a private school or a religious reason to pursue private education. The majority of the children in my children's classes live in the city. We are the only family in my suburban neighborhood who send our child to a secular private school, a couple other families send their children to Catholic schools. The majority of our suburban neighbors send their children to the public schools.
Anonymous
Baltimore is traditionally a private school town. There are many more private schools per capita.
Gilman
Saint Paul's
Boys Latin
Loyola blakefield
Archbishop Curley
Bryn Mawr
Calvert
Cathedral
Friends
Green mount
Notre Dame (2 of them )
Mercy
Lab School
Mount St Joes
Park School
Roland park
St Francis
Keough
Waldorf
Annapolis Chistian
Archbishop Spauling
Mount de Sales
Oldfield
McDonough
Cardinal Gibbons
Severn
Saint Marys
Glenelg country day

I'm sure I missed many. For a smaller population.











Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't lots of Baltimore private school kids live in the burbs?


Baltimore County has good public schools, so most suburban residents send their children to public schools unless they have a family connection to a private school or a religious reason to pursue private education. The majority of the children in my children's classes live in the city. We are the only family in my suburban neighborhood who send our child to a secular private school, a couple other families send their children to Catholic schools. The majority of our suburban neighbors send their children to the public schools.


McDonough? Kids drive from the city to McDonough?

Boys Latin? Kids from the burbs generally go yo Gonzaga but this is not true about boys Latin?
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