Basis being sued? Is that true?

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They also want to reach underserved students.

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Really? When they first opened two years ago, they heavily recruited in WoTP.

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Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:I just heard it from a parent there. They HATE it.

The parent hates Basis and is suing the school? To what end - what does the lawsuit entail?

Were they forced at gunpoint to attend Basis?

Jesus. I'm just shaking my head.

There's a waitlist of families three digits deep that would absolutely love to take their place at Basis right now.

That's not really fair. If you were matched at Eliot Hine or Eatern, you wouldn't automatically suck it up. Basis is a public school, it needs to follow the same laws as every other public school. If that's too hard, then it should stop taking taxpayer funding and go private. They can't have it both ways.
Exactly. If you don't like it, find another school.

Again, there are literally dozens of choices out there. If some family has a kid at Basis who is struggling, then one has to ask why the kid is at Basis in the first place? They had to go out of their way to choose Basis. Did they choose Basis because the other choices would have been even worse? If so, then is this some supremely idealistic but misguided quest for perfection for a kid who would probably struggle no matter what the circumstances as long as the family is trying to jam a square peg through a round hole? I really have to question their judgement. Either way it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to the rest of us who are doing just fine (even with our own SN kids.)

No, if there were literally dozens of choices, then you wouldn't seen the Eaton families freaking out because they're being moved from Deal to Hardy. There are hardly any choices at all. That's the problem And when parents only have access to one decent one, and they don't believe their student is being served, then they very well may sue. It's not like nobody saw this coming, the only surprise is that it took this long.

There are at least 46 different DC charters offering middle school to pick from, plus IB and OOB DCPS options. http://www.dcpcsb.org/SearchSchools.aspx?type=3&val=Middle and here you are acting like this is your only choice.

Please. IF you thought there were 46 good choices in DC, then you wouldn't be so offended that someone is calling your child's school out. After all - there are SO many others for you to choose from as well. Right? So you should support Basis having to step up and do the right thing, and if it doesn't you'll leave. Because dammit you've got 45 other good schools from which to pick!

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Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

And yet, you'd still be not as big an idiot as the charter school parent who believes that a charter school doesn't have an obligation to serve every single child who comes through the doors, AND serve them all equally well. Every. single. child. Equally. well.

It's not hard, it's the law.

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Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

And yet, you'd still be not as big an idiot as the charter school parent who believes that a charter school doesn't have an obligation to serve every single child who comes through the doors, AND serve them all equally well. Every. single. child. Equally. well.

It's not hard, it's the law.

Not at all true. It is not the law. Equal access, yes. Equal opportunity, yes. Accommodation, yes. Those are law.

Everyone gets an A, no. Sorry. Everyone gets a free pass to the next grade, no. Sorry. Neither of those are law.

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I still can't seem to find Basis approved charter application. Anyone have it?

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Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

And yet, you'd still be not as big an idiot as the charter school parent who believes that a charter school doesn't have an obligation to serve every single child who comes through the doors, AND serve them all equally well. Every. single. child. Equally. well.

It's not hard, it's the law.

I don't think the law is carte blanche to fulfill every expectation under the sun. For example, some quack could write "Little Johnny can only learn when he's on the beach in a hammock slung between two palm trees". Great if you could get it, but it ain't happening.

Also, accommodations are a two way street. If the school for example makes Mr Lehrenschulen available for tests and supports several days a week, but the parents say "Oh, Mondays are no good because we take Tootsie, our Pomeranian to the doggie massage, and Tuesdays are no good because little Johnny absolutely has to go to basketweaving club and... well, the only good time is Saturday afternoons between precisely 2:17 and 3:49, no sooner and no later, and, oh, too bad, Mr. Lehrenschulen is going to have to forego his Saturday afternoons off with his family and oh, what? Mr. Lehrenschulen is jewish and doesn't work on Saturdays? Oh, well you'll just have to fire him and replace him with someone else."

Also, how does a school make Calculus "accessible" to a kid with 20 IQ?

Sure, it's the law, but there are limits - limits that you will find with ANY school.

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Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

And yet, you'd still be not as big an idiot as the charter school parent who believes that a charter school doesn't have an obligation to serve every single child who comes through the doors, AND serve them all equally well. Every. single. child. Equally. well.

It's not hard, it's the law.

Not at all true. It is not the law. Equal access, yes. Equal opportunity, yes. Accommodation, yes. Those are law.

Everyone gets an A, no. Sorry. Everyone gets a free pass to the next grade, no. Sorry. Neither of those are law.

Nice strawman, bug eyes. FAPE doesn't demand that everyone gets an A. It does demand that everyone receives the accommodations, and services, and supports necessary to access the curriculum. So if Johnny or Jamal or Juanito can't take Calculus when he's 10, you don't get to keep holding him back until he's 14 in the hope that he drops out. You have to provide a math curriculum he can access. Even if it means you have to offer 5th grade math.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

And yet, you'd still be not as big an idiot as the charter school parent who believes that a charter school doesn't have an obligation to serve every single child who comes through the doors, AND serve them all equally well. Every. single. child. Equally. well.

It's not hard, it's the law.

I don't think the law is carte blanche to fulfill every expectation under the sun. For example, some quack could write "Little Johnny can only learn when he's on the beach in a hammock slung between two palm trees". Great if you could get it, but it ain't happening.

Also, accommodations are a two way street. If the school for example makes Mr Lehrenschulen available for tests and supports several days a week, but the parents say "Oh, Mondays are no good because we take Tootsie, our Pomeranian to the doggie massage, and Tuesdays are no good because little Johnny absolutely has to go to basketweaving club and... well, the only good time is Saturday afternoons between precisely 2:17 and 3:49, no sooner and no later, and, oh, too bad, Mr. Lehrenschulen is going to have to forego his Saturday afternoons off with his family and oh, what? Mr. Lehrenschulen is jewish and doesn't work on Saturdays? Oh, well you'll just have to fire him and replace him with someone else."

Also, how does a school make Calculus "accessible" to a kid with 20 IQ?

Sure, it's the law, but there are limits - limits that you will find with ANY school.

You obviously don't understand the law, but once again - Nice strawman - Germ.

FAPE doesn't demand that everyone gets an A. It does demand that everyone receives the accommodations, and services, and supports necessary to access the curriculum. So if Johnny or Jamal or Juanito can't take Calculus when he's 10, you don't get to keep holding him back until he's 14 in the hope that he drops out. You have to provide a math curriculum he can access. Even if it means you have to offer 5th grade math.

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13:36 -- when 5th grade math is pre-algebra and your seventh grade DC hasn't been able to pass for two year's running with hours upon hours of teacher-office-hours and peer tutoring available, there IS a problem, and BASIS can't and shouldn't have to fix it. This attitude and expectation is why DCPS "graduates" functionally illiterate students.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

And yet, you'd still be not as big an idiot as the charter school parent who believes that a charter school doesn't have an obligation to serve every single child who comes through the doors, AND serve them all equally well. Every. single. child. Equally. well.

It's not hard, it's the law.

I don't think the law is carte blanche to fulfill every expectation under the sun. For example, some quack could write "Little Johnny can only learn when he's on the beach in a hammock slung between two palm trees". Great if you could get it, but it ain't happening.

Also, accommodations are a two way street. If the school for example makes Mr Lehrenschulen available for tests and supports several days a week, but the parents say "Oh, Mondays are no good because we take Tootsie, our Pomeranian to the doggie massage, and Tuesdays are no good because little Johnny absolutely has to go to basketweaving club and... well, the only good time is Saturday afternoons between precisely 2:17 and 3:49, no sooner and no later, and, oh, too bad, Mr. Lehrenschulen is going to have to forego his Saturday afternoons off with his family and oh, what? Mr. Lehrenschulen is jewish and doesn't work on Saturdays? Oh, well you'll just have to fire him and replace him with someone else."

Also, how does a school make Calculus "accessible" to a kid with 20 IQ?

Sure, it's the law, but there are limits - limits that you will find with ANY school.

You obviously don't understand the law, but once again - Nice strawman - Germ.

FAPE doesn't demand that everyone gets an A. It does demand that everyone receives the accommodations, and services, and supports necessary to access the curriculum. So if Johnny or Jamal or Juanito can't take Calculus when he's 10, you don't get to keep holding him back until he's 14 in the hope that he drops out. You have to provide a math curriculum he can access. Even if it means you have to offer 5th grade math.

What? WHAT?

Sorry, but why the FUCK would any parent whose kid is below grade level in math MIS-DIRECT and MIS-SERVE THEIR KID so horribly as to shove them into a school that they KNOW is math-heavy and focused on acceleration?

"I like smashing square pegs through round holes for no reason other than because the law says I can."

IDIOTIC! If this is the case, the parent needs their head examined. That is a parent who is setting their kid up for an even more horrible life than what the kid's disability is already inflicting. I seriously feel sorry for this person's kid. I wonder what other abuses they are inflicting their poor kid with.

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Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

And yet, you'd still be not as big an idiot as the charter school parent who believes that a charter school doesn't have an obligation to serve every single child who comes through the doors, AND serve them all equally well. Every. single. child. Equally. well.

It's not hard, it's the law.

Not at all true. It is not the law. Equal access, yes. Equal opportunity, yes. Accommodation, yes. Those are law.

Everyone gets an A, no. Sorry. Everyone gets a free pass to the next grade, no. Sorry. Neither of those are law.

Nice strawman, bug eyes. FAPE doesn't demand that everyone gets an A. It does demand that everyone receives the accommodations, and services, and supports necessary to access the curriculum. So if Johnny or Jamal or Juanito can't take Calculus when he's 10, you don't get to keep holding him back until he's 14 in the hope that he drops out. You have to provide a math curriculum he can access. Even if it means you have to offer 5th grade math.

But Johnny, Jamal or Juanito do have access to 5th grade math at BASIS. They just have to stay in the 5th (or maybe 6th) grade to get it. They might even be able to get it in 7th grade for a couple more years as BASIS offers a modified curriculum during its first few years of operation.

What they won't get is a promotion to 8th grade (or maybe even 7th) while taking 5th grade math. To get to 8th grade, they'll have to master 5th grade math and probably 6th.

By the way, FAPE does not "demand that everyone receives the accommodations, and services, and supports necessary to access the curriculum." FAPE demands only that children with disabilities not be excluded from participation solely due to their disability, where "disability" is a physical or mental impairment which substantially limits one or more major life activities.

Coming from an elementary school that didn't teach you how to add and multiply fractions is not a disability. Having a hard time with algebra and having to work harder than your peers to understand it is not a disability.

You might find the following site helpful, PP: http://www.ncld.org/parents-child-disabilities/ld-rights/what-is-fape-what-can-it-mean-my-child

Pay close attention the the "FAPE myths" column, especially the myth "Children with disabilities are not required to pass state-approved assessments that demonstrate State standards," keeping in mind that BASIS is its own LEA.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

And yet, you'd still be not as big an idiot as the charter school parent who believes that a charter school doesn't have an obligation to serve every single child who comes through the doors, AND serve them all equally well. Every. single. child. Equally. well.

It's not hard, it's the law.

Not at all true. It is not the law. Equal access, yes. Equal opportunity, yes. Accommodation, yes. Those are law.

Everyone gets an A, no. Sorry. Everyone gets a free pass to the next grade, no. Sorry. Neither of those are law.

Nice strawman, bug eyes. FAPE doesn't demand that everyone gets an A. It does demand that everyone receives the accommodations, and services, and supports necessary to access the curriculum. So if Johnny or Jamal or Juanito can't take Calculus when he's 10, you don't get to keep holding him back until he's 14 in the hope that he drops out. You have to provide a math curriculum he can access. Even if it means you have to offer 5th grade math.

Nice trolling, troll. They just can't discriminate, and have to provide support. There is no assumption that every child can achieve the same results with some fixed amount of support.

If that were the case, every DCPS school would be up the creek, because they aren't making material accessible enough. Ergo, your logic is completely, utterly fried.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They also want to reach underserved students.

With the caveat that the underserved students are able to handle accelerated work. If your child is below grade level, BASIS offers remediation for them to catch up but the student needs to put in the work.

Sending your child to a middle/high school that is known for an accelerated curriculum and then complaining about the fact that the curriculum is accelerated makes you an idiot.

And yet, you'd still be not as big an idiot as the charter school parent who believes that a charter school doesn't have an obligation to serve every single child who comes through the doors, AND serve them all equally well. Every. single. child. Equally. well.

It's not hard, it's the law.

I don't think the law is carte blanche to fulfill every expectation under the sun. For example, some quack could write "Little Johnny can only learn when he's on the beach in a hammock slung between two palm trees". Great if you could get it, but it ain't happening.

Also, accommodations are a two way street. If the school for example makes Mr Lehrenschulen available for tests and supports several days a week, but the parents say "Oh, Mondays are no good because we take Tootsie, our Pomeranian to the doggie massage, and Tuesdays are no good because little Johnny absolutely has to go to basketweaving club and... well, the only good time is Saturday afternoons between precisely 2:17 and 3:49, no sooner and no later, and, oh, too bad, Mr. Lehrenschulen is going to have to forego his Saturday afternoons off with his family and oh, what? Mr. Lehrenschulen is jewish and doesn't work on Saturdays? Oh, well you'll just have to fire him and replace him with someone else."

Also, how does a school make Calculus "accessible" to a kid with 20 IQ?

Sure, it's the law, but there are limits - limits that you will find with ANY school.

You obviously don't understand the law, but once again - Nice strawman - Germ.

FAPE doesn't demand that everyone gets an A. It does demand that everyone receives the accommodations, and services, and supports necessary to access the curriculum. So if Johnny or Jamal or Juanito can't take Calculus when he's 10, you don't get to keep holding him back until he's 14 in the hope that he drops out. You have to provide a math curriculum he can access. Even if it means you have to offer 5th grade math.

What? WHAT?

Sorry, but why the FUCK would any parent whose kid is below grade level in math MIS-DIRECT and MIS-SERVE THEIR KID so horribly as to shove them into a school that they KNOW is math-heavy and focused on acceleration?

"I like smashing square pegs through round holes for no reason other than because the law says I can."

IDIOTIC! If this is the case, the parent needs their head examined. That is a parent who is setting their kid up for an even more horrible life than what the kid's disability is already inflicting. I seriously feel sorry for this person's kid. I wonder what other abuses they are inflicting their poor kid with.

You don't seem to understand the concept of a public school - a non-selective public school. Basis has an obligation to serve ALL students. All of them. Not the ones you like, but all of them. If you want a selective school, you have private options.

You're angry because the law doesn't conform to your personal desires.