I am Catholic and thank God for my birth control

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Anonymous wrote:I'm Catholic, but I'm a firm believer in birth control. I actually support population control for environmental reasons. I support birth control to decrease poverty. I wish that more women will utilize birth control instead of bringing children into the world that they can't afford to take care of. I also believe in sterilizing criminals, those who are mentally insane, and parents who abuse their children.

I used to be a radical pro-lifer. However, after spending 20 plus years working in social services and the criminal justice system I realized that birth control and abortion are absolute necessaries in order to decrease some of the social ills that we have in society. Our government can't educate, feed, provide housing, and other resources to every poor child that is born in America. Also, if a female gets raped, then she shouldn't be forced to have the rapist's baby. We have 12 year olds here in DC pushing strollers. Parents are dropping the ball with teaching their children about safe sex. Now the church wants to legislate laws inside of my uterus. This crap has got to stop! Women need to have complete control and authority over their own bodies. Not everyone wants a child and not everyone in our society deserves a child either. Some people should never bring a child into the world period!


The church has no place or no right inside of a women's uterus!

Well said. So how do you reconcile that with your membership in (and implicit support of) the Catholic Church?

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I think it would be pretty awesome if everyone who disagreed with the Church's teachings on women, their reproductive health, and sexuality in general would leave and go find a different church. There's enough of them out there to make a breakaway church.

Maybe that would be enough to spur some change if half the church's members left (and took their money with them).

--a former Catholic

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Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?

Islam is pretty weird about it. But it does accept certain forms - unlike Catholicism.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?

There's a great scene in Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life" all about a Catholics and Protestants and birth control.
Catholics -

Protestants -

For a while abortion wasn't a big deal for evangelicals, but it became a rallying cry as evangelical leaders realized they could drum up a lot of passion and contributions with it, but most evangelicals don't worry much about birth control as an issue (unless, of course, Obamacare is trampling their 1st Amendment rights by forcing them to provide contraceptive coverage to their employees, then, of course, it's a huge religious freedom issue).

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Anonymous wrote:If it were as easy as switching churches, yes.

It's not just church, it is family and communities and schools and traditions. I have changed churches when I don't like the priests, yea that was easy, there are about 5 <15 minutes from my house.

leaving all of the above is not uncommon when its a way to avoid association with child sexual abuse and strictures against abortion and birth control.

You can find the good things in lots of places -- but for the bad things, you need the Catholic church.

Actually you can find bad things everywhere. Child sex abuse is in the public schools. I see more good being done by the Catholic Church than any other single organization.

What other organization has as many free private schools in DC? You can't have all the good without the bad in any single organization.

Sorry you hate the Catholics.

yes - bad things are everywhere, and bad things are systemic and covered up in the catholic church.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the catholic church the only christian faith that officially opposes birth control? what about abortion? Honest question. You always hear about the catholic position, but do all protestants sanction these practices?

If you only eat organic do you believe birth control is okay?

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Anonymous wrote:If it were as easy as switching churches, yes.

It's not just church, it is family and communities and schools and traditions. I have changed churches when I don't like the priests, yea that was easy, there are about 5 <15 minutes from my house.

leaving all of the above is not uncommon when its a way to avoid association with child sexual abuse and strictures against abortion and birth control.

You can find the good things in lots of places -- but for the bad things, you need the Catholic church.

Actually you can find bad things everywhere. Child sex abuse is in the public schools. I see more good being done by the Catholic Church than any other single organization.

What other organization has as many free private schools in DC? You can't have all the good without the bad in any single organization.

Sorry you hate the Catholics.

yes - bad things are everywhere, and bad things are systemic and covered up in the catholic church.

As a catholic , always remember the words of Christ . " if the world hates you , always remember it hated me first." We all know in that Christ is opposed to abortion. For Pete's sake, when you die your soul will be as helpless as that of a fetus, completely dependent on the mercy of God... How would you like scissors to the brain or worse? The more the world attacks you for belief in life and mercy you can be sure you are a Christian . Being a true Christian will bring suffering. Jesus said his return will be to judge and separate , it will be difficult to argue the merits of fetal holocaust.

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Anonymous wrote:If it were as easy as switching churches, yes.

It's not just church, it is family and communities and schools and traditions. I have changed churches when I don't like the priests, yea that was easy, there are about 5 <15 minutes from my house.

leaving all of the above is not uncommon when its a way to avoid association with child sexual abuse and strictures against abortion and birth control.

You can find the good things in lots of places -- but for the bad things, you need the Catholic church.

Actually you can find bad things everywhere. Child sex abuse is in the public schools. I see more good being done by the Catholic Church than any other single organization.

What other organization has as many free private schools in DC? You can't have all the good without the bad in any single organization.

Sorry you hate the Catholics.

yes - bad things are everywhere, and bad things are systemic and covered up in the catholic church.

Bad things are systematically covered up by the US government also.

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Anonymous wrote:If it were as easy as switching churches, yes.

It's not just church, it is family and communities and schools and traditions. I have changed churches when I don't like the priests, yea that was easy, there are about 5 <15 minutes from my house.

leaving all of the above is not uncommon when its a way to avoid association with child sexual abuse and strictures against abortion and birth control.

You can find the good things in lots of places -- but for the bad things, you need the Catholic church.

Actually you can find bad things everywhere. Child sex abuse is in the public schools. I see more good being done by the Catholic Church than any other single organization.

What other organization has as many free private schools in DC? You can't have all the good without the bad in any single organization.

Sorry you hate the Catholics.

yes - bad things are everywhere, and bad things are systemic and covered up in the catholic church.

As a catholic , always remember the words of Christ . " if the world hates you , always remember it hated me first." We all know in that Christ is opposed to abortion. For Pete's sake, when you die your soul will be as helpless as that of a fetus, completely dependent on the mercy of God... How would you like scissors to the brain or worse? The more the world attacks you for belief in life and mercy you can be sure you are a Christian . Being a true Christian will bring suffering. Jesus said his return will be to judge and separate , it will be difficult to argue the merits of fetal holocaust.

Speaking of fetal holocausts, what about the majority of all conceptions that don't make it to birth for natural reasons -- a big chunk of them in the extremely early stage when a woman doesn't even know she's pregnant? That's a pretty grim rate, not sure why any god would have made human reproduction so inefficient if he felt every zygote is sacred. If the studies that have shown this are correct (this one suggests 30% rate loss before an ovum implants in the womb, then a 30% loss once the fertilized egg has implanted: http://humupd.oxfordjournals.org/content/8/4/333.full.pdf ) then that would suggest that the majority of souls in heaven belong to fertilized eggs, blastocycsts, zygotes, embryos, and fetuses that never made it past the 12th week of pregnancy. If you believe in souls and heaven, don't you think that's a bit odd?

Really, mother nature (or god if you will) is by far the biggest abortifacient.

[Anonymous]

^^^ maybe that is true. Our job is to be merciful in what we can. The world loves the darkness and turns away from the light because it's deeds are evil.

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Anonymous wrote:If it were as easy as switching churches, yes.

It's not just church, it is family and communities and schools and traditions. I have changed churches when I don't like the priests, yea that was easy, there are about 5 <15 minutes from my house.

leaving all of the above is not uncommon when its a way to avoid association with child sexual abuse and strictures against abortion and birth control.

You can find the good things in lots of places -- but for the bad things, you need the Catholic church.

Actually you can find bad things everywhere. Child sex abuse is in the public schools. I see more good being done by the Catholic Church than any other single organization.

What other organization has as many free private schools in DC? You can't have all the good without the bad in any single organization.

Sorry you hate the Catholics.

yes - bad things are everywhere, and bad things are systemic and covered up in the catholic church.

As a catholic , always remember the words of Christ . " if the world hates you , always remember it hated me first." We all know in that Christ is opposed to abortion. For Pete's sake, when you die your soul will be as helpless as that of a fetus, completely dependent on the mercy of God... How would you like scissors to the brain or worse? The more the world attacks you for belief in life and mercy you can be sure you are a Christian . Being a true Christian will bring suffering. Jesus said his return will be to judge and separate , it will be difficult to argue the merits of fetal holocaust.

Speaking of fetal holocausts, what about the majority of all conceptions that don't make it to birth for natural reasons -- a big chunk of them in the extremely early stage when a woman doesn't even know she's pregnant? That's a pretty grim rate, not sure why any god would have made human reproduction so inefficient if he felt every zygote is sacred. If the studies that have shown this are correct (this one suggests 30% rate loss before an ovum implants in the womb, then a 30% loss once the fertilized egg has implanted: http://humupd.oxfordjournals.org/content/8/4/333.full.pdf ) then that would suggest that the majority of souls in heaven belong to fertilized eggs, blastocycsts, zygotes, embryos, and fetuses that never made it past the 12th week of pregnancy. If you believe in souls and heaven, don't you think that's a bit odd?

Really, mother nature (or god if you will) is by far the biggest abortifacient.

Mother Nature is the largest cause of death period. So murder is fine?

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Anonymous wrote:If it were as easy as switching churches, yes.

It's not just church, it is family and communities and schools and traditions. I have changed churches when I don't like the priests, yea that was easy, there are about 5 <15 minutes from my house.

leaving all of the above is not uncommon when its a way to avoid association with child sexual abuse and strictures against abortion and birth control.

You can find the good things in lots of places -- but for the bad things, you need the Catholic church.

Actually you can find bad things everywhere. Child sex abuse is in the public schools. I see more good being done by the Catholic Church than any other single organization.

What other organization has as many free private schools in DC? You can't have all the good without the bad in any single organization.

Sorry you hate the Catholics.

yes - bad things are everywhere, and bad things are systemic and covered up in the catholic church.

As a catholic , always remember the words of Christ . " if the world hates you , always remember it hated me first." We all know in that Christ is opposed to abortion. For Pete's sake, when you die your soul will be as helpless as that of a fetus, completely dependent on the mercy of God... How would you like scissors to the brain or worse? The more the world attacks you for belief in life and mercy you can be sure you are a Christian . Being a true Christian will bring suffering. Jesus said his return will be to judge and separate , it will be difficult to argue the merits of fetal holocaust.

Speaking of fetal holocausts, what about the majority of all conceptions that don't make it to birth for natural reasons -- a big chunk of them in the extremely early stage when a woman doesn't even know she's pregnant? That's a pretty grim rate, not sure why any god would have made human reproduction so inefficient if he felt every zygote is sacred. If the studies that have shown this are correct (this one suggests 30% rate loss before an ovum implants in the womb, then a 30% loss once the fertilized egg has implanted: http://humupd.oxfordjournals.org/content/8/4/333.full.pdf ) then that would suggest that the majority of souls in heaven belong to fertilized eggs, blastocycsts, zygotes, embryos, and fetuses that never made it past the 12th week of pregnancy. If you believe in souls and heaven, don't you think that's a bit odd?

Really, mother nature (or god if you will) is by far the biggest abortifacient.

Mother Nature is the largest cause of death period. So murder is fine?

You still haven't answered the question of why, if a god felt that fertilized eggs are sacred, that he made human reproduction so inefficient that a 3rd of all conceptions don't even implant in the womb, and then a 3rd of them that that do implant are lost before the 12th week.

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^^^ if he cares about people why does the human body die 100 percent of the time ? Since we will die anyway why isn't murder ok?

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Anonymous wrote:If it were as easy as switching churches, yes.

It's not just church, it is family and communities and schools and traditions. I have changed churches when I don't like the priests, yea that was easy, there are about 5 <15 minutes from my house.

leaving all of the above is not uncommon when its a way to avoid association with child sexual abuse and strictures against abortion and birth control.

You can find the good things in lots of places -- but for the bad things, you need the Catholic church.

Actually you can find bad things everywhere. Child sex abuse is in the public schools. I see more good being done by the Catholic Church than any other single organization.

What other organization has as many free private schools in DC? You can't have all the good without the bad in any single organization.

Sorry you hate the Catholics.

yes - bad things are everywhere, and bad things are systemic and covered up in the catholic church.

As a catholic , always remember the words of Christ . " if the world hates you , always remember it hated me first." We all know in that Christ is opposed to abortion. For Pete's sake, when you die your soul will be as helpless as that of a fetus, completely dependent on the mercy of God... How would you like scissors to the brain or worse? The more the world attacks you for belief in life and mercy you can be sure you are a Christian . Being a true Christian will bring suffering. Jesus said his return will be to judge and separate , it will be difficult to argue the merits of fetal holocaust.

Speaking of fetal holocausts, what about the majority of all conceptions that don't make it to birth for natural reasons -- a big chunk of them in the extremely early stage when a woman doesn't even know she's pregnant? That's a pretty grim rate, not sure why any god would have made human reproduction so inefficient if he felt every zygote is sacred. If the studies that have shown this are correct (this one suggests 30% rate loss before an ovum implants in the womb, then a 30% loss once the fertilized egg has implanted: http://humupd.oxfordjournals.org/content/8/4/333.full.pdf ) then that would suggest that the majority of souls in heaven belong to fertilized eggs, blastocycsts, zygotes, embryos, and fetuses that never made it past the 12th week of pregnancy. If you believe in souls and heaven, don't you think that's a bit odd?

Really, mother nature (or god if you will) is by far the biggest abortifacient.

Mother Nature is the largest cause of death period. So murder is fine?

You still haven't answered the question of why, if a god felt that fertilized eggs are sacred, that he made human reproduction so inefficient that a 3rd of all conceptions don't even implant in the womb, and then a 3rd of them that that do implant are lost before the 12th week.

Depends on which brand of faith you subscribe to, if any.