How is Richard Montgomery if you're not in IB?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Morons, There are million homes in Anacostia. You can try to make yourselves feel good all you like but the reality is that outside of the IB program, RM is just an average school for all the same reasons that many other school in the county are average. With the IB program, RM's average scores are the same or inferior to the 4 Ws. Without the IB, the scores are weak. Again, I am only trying the answer OP's question. To be honest, I would rather attend an average MCPS than a stellar school in most other school districts.

In truth, RM's mean test scores (excluding the magnet kids) are weaker than the Ws because it's zoned to include Twinbrook ES, which contains a large area east of 355 that's fairly poor. If you stuck Twinbook ES into the Wootton or Churchill clusters, it would instantly look about the same demographically as RM does now. If you think that the rest of RM looks anything like Anacostia, you haven't spent much time in Anacostia. Zones like Ritchie Park are actually wealthier than some of the nearby zones in Wootton.

Wootton and Churchill are basically white/asian, upper class bubbles due to the fact that there are few poor or multifamily pockets zoned into them, whereas RM at the high school level is very diverse, with very wealthy and very poor areas both zoned in. Much of RM costs more per square foot to live in than Wootton and Churchill though.

You need help. The point being made with Anacostia is that jts because a neighborhood has million dollar homes does not mean that it has great schools.

At the end of the day, if you ask most people whether they would pick Bethesda/Whitman or Potomac/Wootton over Rockville/RM, they would.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
You need help. The point being made with Anacostia is that jts because a neighborhood has million dollar homes does not mean that it has great schools.

At the end of the day, if you ask most people whether they would pick Bethesda/Whitman or Potomac/Wootton over Rockville/RM, they would.

Shorter PP: Most people think the way I do.

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For the record, Anacostia doesn't have million dollar homes. So to interject that into your byzantine argument is ridic.

[Anonymous]

Mr. or Ms. Outside-the-beltway, Anacosta does have millions dollar homes. Please stop pretending like you know what life is like here in civilization. Why don't you just head over to Wal-Mart for lunch at McDonald's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mr. or Ms. Outside-the-beltway, Anacosta does have millions dollar homes. Please stop pretending like you know what life is like here in civilization. Why don't you just head over to Wal-Mart for lunch at McDonald's.

Find me one listing for $1,000,000 or more for a single-family house in Anacostia, please. (I'm asking you to do the search because, unlike me, you know what life is like over there in civilization.)

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[Anonymous]

The point being made with Anacostia is that jts because a neighborhood has million dollar homes does not mean that it has great schools.

And just because a school has children with high test scores doesn't mean it is a great school. Student success is highly correlated with parent income and education. Whittman does not have any control or effect on that. The 4 W schools all have 1 thing in common..high family incomes..not better teachers or small classes or even a different curriculum. I do not think for a minute that if I took my RM student and sent him to Whittman, he would be any different educationally than he is now.

[Anonymous]

PP, Your comment shows how clueless you are. Teachers tend to move to where the best students are studying. How many teachers do you know who are breaking down the doors to teach at Kennedy? Also, check out the alumni list at Whitman or Churchill and compare it to RM. The reality is that Whitman and Churchill have produced a culture of success in academics, sports, arts, etc. where as RM is just beginning. RM's most notable alumna is Tori Amos. Again, I think the IB program at RM is great but if you are asking me if RM (sans IB) is in the same league at the 4 Ws, which is what OP is asking, I would say that RM is much weaker and probably weaker than other schools like QO and B-CC.

[Anonymous]

No one said the W schools don't have successful alumni. Those students however would likely have been successful at a wide range of schools. I argue there are great teachers who prefer to teach needier kids and in schools where MCPS places more resources/smaller classes etc.

-Another clueless parent

[Anonymous]

OP, we moved from RM cluster, wish we had done it sooner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, if you ask most people whether they would pick Bethesda/Whitman or Potomac/Wootton over Rockville/RM, they would.

Duh. As noted earlier, the Ws are bubbles that don't zone in poor folks, whereas RM draws in a more diverse crowd. That doesn't change the fact that parts of RM are very upper class, and about as far as you can get from "hood".

If you take schools out of the equation, I'd much rather live in parts of RM than anywhere in Wootton for example . But alas, schools are part of the equation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, if you ask most people whether they would pick Bethesda/Whitman or Potomac/Wootton over Rockville/RM, they would.

Duh. As noted earlier, the Ws are bubbles that don't zone in poor folks, whereas RM draws in a more diverse crowd. That doesn't change the fact that parts of RM are very upper class, and about as far as you can get from "hood".

If you take schools out of the equation, I'd much rather live in parts of RM than anywhere in Wootton for example . But alas, schools are part of the equation.

I would choose RM over Whitman ANY DAY! I wold choose RM over Wootton also. I prefer WJ to all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point being made with Anacostia is that jts because a neighborhood has million dollar homes does not mean that it has great schools.

And just because a school has children with high test scores doesn't mean it is a great school. Student success is highly correlated with parent income and education. Whitman does not have any control or effect on that. The 4 W schools all have 1 thing in common..high family incomes..not better teachers or small classes or even a different curriculum. I do not think for a minute that if I took my RM student and sent him to Whitman, he would be any different educationally than he is now.

I agree.
None of the students succeeding in any school are doing so because of the curriculum or the quality of teachers. Get real. There is a parallel system of education existing outside of MCPS. Parents are pouring thousands of dollars over coaching, and tutoring and enrichment from the time these kids are born. Those who are educated and have the money and value education - their kids will do well. Most of the Asian kids in MCPS belong to this category. Their parents are educated and spend money on their education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, Your comment shows how clueless you are. Teachers tend to move to where the best students are studying. How many teachers do you know who are breaking down the doors to teach at Kennedy? Also, check out the alumni list at Whitman or Churchill and compare it to RM. The reality is that Whitman and Churchill have produced a culture of success in academics, sports, arts, etc. where as RM is just beginning. RM's most notable alumna is Tori Amos. Again, I think the IB program at RM is great but if you are asking me if RM (sans IB) is in the same league at the 4 Ws, which is what OP is asking, I would say that RM is much weaker and probably weaker than other schools like QO and B-CC.

I don't think that this is necessarily true. I'm not a teacher. But teachers presumably consider the same kinds of factors that everybody else considers, like commute and whether their boss is a good boss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, Your comment shows how clueless you are. Teachers tend to move to where the best students are studying. How many teachers do you know who are breaking down the doors to teach at Kennedy? Also, check out the alumni list at Whitman or Churchill and compare it to RM. The reality is that Whitman and Churchill have produced a culture of success in academics, sports, arts, etc. where as RM is just beginning. RM's most notable alumna is Tori Amos. Again, I think the IB program at RM is great but if you are asking me if RM (sans IB) is in the same league at the 4 Ws, which is what OP is asking, I would say that RM is much weaker and probably weaker than other schools like QO and B-CC.

Really? Can you enlighten me, who is an academic superstar? Sure they have a few actors and athletes but that is certainly not something they learned at school.