I am from Illinois and went to Wisconsin. Upon hearing this, some elderly lady paused for a moment and said, "well, I *guess* Wisconsin is *almost* as good as U of I." |
| I think posters are confusing good schools or good value schools with "prestigious" ones that OP asked about. |
MIT is not public. |
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Michigan
Berkeley UVA William and Mary Then UNC U Texas Wisconsin |
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Per US News: (in order) UC-Berkeley, UCLA, VA, Michigan, UNC, William and Mary, UC-Davis, UC-San Diego, UC-Santa Barbara, Wisconsin, Penn State, Illinois, UT-Austin, Washington, Florida, Ohio State, Maryland, University of Pittsburgh, CT, Georgia, Purdue, Texas A&M, Clemson
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| Unc drops due to its academic fraud case going back 20 years to last year . Pitiful . |
This makes sense though the difference between Cal and Clemson is immense. |
Rice isn't a state school. The "state" part of Cornell UCLA |
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michigan will get stronger and stronger as compared to UC's, UVA, and UNC it accepts more and more OOS students.
Not a UM alum...actually i hate UM. but i can see it getting stronger and stronger. |
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Most state schools are regional in nature. The only ones that attract a lot of elite students outside of their region are UVA, UC-Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, and U. of North Carolina.
And no, an Ag. college at Cornell isn't on the list. A lot of the other schools like Texas, Florida, Georgia, Washington, Illinois, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana, Georgia Tech, etc., have monster research programs and very strong graduate schools, but their undergraduate colleges are very regional in scope and don't really attract top students from other regions in large numbers. No one in say Connecticut, goes wow, you went the U. of Texas, you must of been very, very smart in high school. If anything, they think it is comparable or a tad better than UConn. The differences between Maryland vs. UC-Santa Barbara vs. Texas vs. Missouri just aren't that big of a deal. |
| Schools with subpar math and science programs like UVA and Unc are not really rigorous . If you check the alumni, there are no great creators or innovators. |
Another Miami grad here. That was my response, too. The best state school in Ohio, I think, but it's no Berkeley or UVA. It did produce Paul Ryan, though
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