Anyone ever hire interns on F1 student Visas? or been in that boat?
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| I work at a university and handle this as part of my job and there is some bad or mixed up info above. Is this a graduate or a current student? Current students can work both during the school year and during breaks under CPT (curricular practical training). They will have to enroll in a curricular course to be eligible and most universities require that they have been enrolled full time for a school year. Most schools have arrangements to this which often are free zero credit courses. You will have to do very little except write a letter stating the terms of employment. The rest of the paperwork is handled by the student. There is no cost to you. Unpaid internships require no CPT because CPT is only required for paid off csmpus work but we recommend it for all internships to protect the students in case they end up being renumerated in some way.paidoff campus work. |
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Sorry accidentally hit submit. Anyway it is very easy. Post grad f-1 students can work for 12months under OPT but that is a work permit they apply for and nothing is required of the employer.
CPT is very common and most of our foreign students intern. |
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| Oh and pp here; our foreign interns are often hired for their language skills. When our native born students are fluent in English Mandarin and Japanese let me know. |
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This must be a very narrow area. Most native-born kids, including kids born in immigrant families, would go into foreign language study with the plan to work for the government, specifically national security. If they don't get intensive language experience as interns, they will be less qualified for the work and this will create a hole that qualified non-citizens cannot fill. |
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IT industry here. We can't get enough qualified "Americans" to fill the jobs. The universities simply aren't pumping out enough people with these skills. Yes, we need a change in the "system" to direct more kids to STEM studies, but that's a long-term issue and I don't have time as an employer to embark on that societal change.
I think any foreign student graduating with an advanced degree in a high demand field from a US university should automatically get a 5-year work permit for the US. They studied here, so why can't we use their skills to help American companies and the American economy, instead of them going back to China or India to work for companies that compete with us? The UK has this scheme (it's called HSMP). I graduated with an advanced degree from a top university there, so I was automatically qualified for a UK work permit. I didn't bother applying since I didn't plan to work there, but I think it's good to keep top talent in the country instead of forcing them out. |
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30 year IT veteran. This is completely bogus. Bill Gates would be proud. This is all about cheap labor. But not everyone agrees. A study released Wednesday by the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute reinforces what a number of researchers have come to believe: that the STEM worker shortage is a myth. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/study-there-may-not-be-a-shortage-of-american-stem-graduates-after-all/2013/04/24/66099962-acea-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html America Has An Adequate Supply of STEM Workers; We Just Won’t Hire Them The current state of manufacturing in the US is the future of IT unless we start taking care of our own US citizens first. And be careful about what you read form the Bill Gate's about H1B visas, H1B visas are good for capital/owners, damn good, but they are not good for labor. And there are many more workers in the US than Bill Gates. |
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The EPI study said that while the overall number of U.S. students who earn STEM degrees is small — a fact that many lawmakers and the news media have seized on — it’s more important to focus on what happens to these students after they graduate. According to the study, they have a surprisingly hard time finding work. Only half of the students graduating from college with a STEM degree are hired into a STEM job, the study said.
“Even in engineering,” the authors said, “U.S. colleges have historically produced about 50 percent more graduates than are hired into engineering jobs each year.” how can there be a shortage when hourly rates are less than what they were in 1998? we hire h1b 3 to 5 year java developers for 55,000 to 75,000 |
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You will hear today that the American economy is gaining steam, adding 288,000 jobs in April, while the unemployment rate fell to 6.3 percent. What you’ll hear less is that 806,000 people dropped out of the labor force in April, most of them too discouraged to look for work. The percent of the population employed (58.9%) remains the lowest it’s been in over thirty years.
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich?rf=135316219853447 Definitely appropriate time to expand work force with more foreign students. |
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And why do you think that's case? If you don't know, let me tell you why. It's because most Americans are not CAPABLE of that type of work even though they have the degrees. I was university professor at a major state U before and have observed that the basic training of most American students are is simply HORRIBLE. In one of my classes, many of them had to ask how to solve a univariate linear equation (such as a*X+b=0). I'm absolutely not exaggerating. |
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so your point is that Americans are not CAPABLE of software engineering? not even sure why I argue with someone that claims to be a professor and posts something like this but 2 points then 1. americans can compete with anyone. if u don't believe that please do us a favor and move to india. I am sure they will welcome you with open arms and give you a temporary visa for 6 years to get a job with health care and prevailing wages. 2. the H1Bs are being hired for IT jobs that do not require univariate linear equation. so even if your point is true, it is not relevant. The children coming out of va schools would do these IT jobs well. Veterans coming back from war could do these IT jobs well. almost anyone with a brain could do these IT jobs well. these are good middle class jobs that pay well and include health care/benefits. but with excess STEM graduates, and rather than hire our own children, the mbas running large corporations hire 25 year old Indians that are cheaper and work for no increases for 6 years. It has nothing to do with skill and education and training, this is subsidy for corporations. It is cheap labor for big business. Tech has a ready-made population to dip into: the youngest of U.S. workers, aged 16 to 24 years, currently experiencing an unemployment rate of more than 16%. |
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It's fun watching those exploitative H-1B employers fight …
Not the government; Not the workers; but Each other! Normally, big business interests using foreign worker programs to lower wages and displace resident workers do so in harmony with each other; they unite to keep the workers in check and to fend off government regulations. And when they are all using the same program, they tend to move in lock-step with each other. But that rule, as the Wall Street Journal has reported, was broken recently, with one group of H-1B users beating up on another group — and really cleaning their clocks, as the text of the Gang of Eight's massive immigration bill has shown. The combatants are the big IT firms Microsoft, Intel, Google, etc. (called product firms in the trade because they actually produce things both visible and useful) on one side and placement firms (a.k.a. Indian outsourcing firms) who quietly provide rented IT staff and other services to major corporations on the other. Both sides are enthusiastic proponents of the H-1B program, bring in large numbers of young, docile, alien college graduates and some advanced degree holders to write software and do similar tasks. Both realize that any union activity is highly unlikely, when each of the programmers is hoping that the company will sponsor them for a green card. According to the Journal, the Indian companies, like Infosys and Tata, routinely staff their operations "with Indian expatriates who earn significantly less than their American counterparts". It is heart-warming to see Rupert Murdoch's flagship newspaper write such things. Quite recently, and behind closed doors, the big IT firms apparently decided that given the finite supply of H-1B visas and the fact that the Indian firms hired large numbers of them, it would be a good idea to use the big immigration bill (S.744) as a vehicle to cut "back sharply on the number of foreign workers these outsourcing companies can send to their U.S. offices", to quote the WSJ. |
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Only a small percentage of americans are capable of software engineering and that number is becoming smaller and smaller. "1. americans can compete with anyone. if u don't believe that please do us a favor and move to india. I am sure they will welcome you with open arms and give you a temporary visa for 6 years to get a job with health care and prevailing wages. " Don't think so. Americans can't compete with mexicans for hard-labor jobs and can't compete with Asians in hightech jobs. All they have left is talking (or so called leadership). Your reasoning ability exactly reflects the current status of americans. If I don't believe americans can compete, I should absolutely stay in the U.S. become it's easier for me to outperform you guys. "2. the H1Bs are being hired for IT jobs that do not require univariate linear equation. so even if your point is true, it is not relevant. The children coming out of va schools would do these IT jobs well. Veterans coming back from war could do these IT jobs well. almost anyone with a brain could do these IT jobs well. these are good middle class jobs that pay well and include health care/benefits. but with excess STEM graduates, and rather than hire our own children, the mbas running large corporations hire 25 year old Indians that are cheaper and work for no increases for 6 years." My teaching was actually not in IT, but a business subject that requires high level math foundations. And I'm not from India. And your understanding on H1B salaries are completely off track. Can you see you average americans lack so much in thinking skills? |
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Americans can compete with anyone.
Wall street and mbas and management elite, well that is a different story, they have screwed america over last 20 years and still get away with indentured servants for 6 years of corporate subsidy of cheap labor. ALAN Greenspan,has finally conceded that the free market philosophy he championed for 40 years has fundamental flaws. The former US central banker from 1987 to 2006, who was once regarded as omnipotent in all things financial, said they must be addressed by a new era of regulation. He made his historic backflip before a Congressional hearing in Washington, the same kind of forum that for years acted as his personal free market cheer squad. In doing so he effectively marked the end of the Age of Reagan, the 30 years beginning with the rise of former President Ronald Reagan in which business was given free rein to create wealth wherever and however it wanted, with the bare minimum of government intrusion. But now, with the world's most advanced economies in the midst of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and hundreds of billions of taxpayers' dollars spent trying to prevent a full-scale global meltdown, Mr Greenspan said the free market ideology that had guided his life and dominated world capitalism for a generation did not work the way he thought it would. Appearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, the man once dubbed "The Maestro" said he had found a flaw in the "critical functioning structure that defines how the world works". "I don't know how significant or permanent it is but I have been very distressed by that fact," Mr Greenspan said. "I made a mistake in presuming that the self-interests of organisations, specifically banks and others, were such that they were best capable of protecting their own shareholders and their equity in the firms." |
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a fellow teacher using H1Bs creatively. see - http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/accused-human-trafficker-visited-white-house-complex The Scheme. Here are the ingredients for the con: 1) there are a large number of alien nurses, particularly in the Philippines, who would love to work in the United States; 2) health care institutions are always looking for nurses, particularly low-paid ones; 3) nurses cannot secure nonimmigrant visas as nurses in the H1-B program or in any other; 4) there are numerical limits to most H-1B programs for skilled workers; 5) there are no such limits for aliens coming to the United States to work for universities; and 6) teachers of nursing are permitted to get H-1B status. The conspirators put all those ingredients together and sought, successfully, H-1B visas for nurses to teach nursing at “Adam University”. No one in the government noticed that the university had a “faculty” of 25 aliens in its nursing school — that’s a lot of foreign nursing teachers for one institution. When the new H-1Bs arrived in Denver they were told by the conmen that were no teaching jobs and they would work in long-term health facilities (i.e., nursing homes) but at a much lower wage than the $72,000 a year that had been offered; and if they did not cooperate they would be deported. Most cooperated. |
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Typical F1 student visa ad for Indians
http://hyderabad.olx.in/usa-paid-internship-for-fresher-s-students-on-f1-student-visa-java-php-dot-net-iid-610278544 No- ADVANCE - PAY AFTER ONLINE CHECKING WITH UNIVERSITY WEBSITE Assured Paid Internship (part time jobs) for B.E / B.Tech students / fresher’s or profiles having experience till 3 yrs. Get Internship interview from India only after getting the visa.(May also get offer letter from India*) Study Master degree in USA & get US experience as well. Pay for only 1st semester from India & balance fees from Internship. Assured I-20 No GRE / GMAT Required Option for Scholarship for students with good scores. Online process. Easy & transparent process. After applying to the universities, acknowledgement is provided. Students from all over India can apply online. SKYPE counseling available. When you call, don't forget to mention that you found this ad on OLX.in |